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Old 02-10-2007, 11:07 PM   #1
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Smile Brock Fords

hey found this and thought it might interest some people on here.

Peter Brock modifying Falcons ? Well, yes, he did. When HSV took over from HDT and Peter Brock was no longer able to build his Brock Commodores, along with some other ex-employees he formed a company called Austech Automotive Developments and he approached Ford about modifying and selling the EA Brock Falcon. The relationship lasted less than a year and ended when Ford took on Tickford as their performance supplier. Fewer than 200 Brock Fords were built, the most reliable figures being 126 Falcons and Fairmonts, 18 Fairlanes, 11 Mavericks and 5 top of the range SE’s

(http://www.aus-ford-uk.co.uk/html/more_specials.html)

go here for the brock fords site:
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Old 02-10-2007, 11:16 PM   #2
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yep... I know of a Black Brock EA infact the front bumper off it is in my backyard awaiting repair... if been at the owner for some time to sell me the car as he doesnt care about it but he wont...
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Old 02-10-2007, 11:17 PM   #3
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my cousins uncle had the yellow XC ... which he almost bought .. but didn't know its background thinking it was a replica GT didn't buy it ... Luckly, because he would have stripped it!
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Old 02-10-2007, 11:21 PM   #4
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There are a number of Brock EA owners on this site. Its nothing new sorry.
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new to me though! and im sure some others ... but ey, were not here to burn anyone!
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Cmon, towards the end the man would put his name on a sausage roll. And why not, Id take the cash too.


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Old 03-10-2007, 03:39 AM   #7
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There one sitting at a wreckers in Perth. I remember there was one in the paper with 100.000kms before he died in showroom cond for 4k...............im so jacked i didnt buy it
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Yeah old news. It's funny because since he died owners are trying to cash in on it by trying to sell their Brock EAs for 20 grand lol. I mean it's still just an EA!

They were a nice looking car though IMO. Especially the wheels, really suit them.
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There are a number of Brock EA owners on this site. Its nothing new sorry.
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...ighlight=brock
i only just found out and thought it was interesting so i thought that thir must b others that dont know aswell

i was talking to my dad last nite and he rekons that he got the boot from holden cos he wanted to use sum chip or sumthing on the commodores and holden sed they were crap so they went with hsv, so then he sold them to ford and they put a few in and then sed they were crap to so then ford went with tickford.

dont know how tru that is but yeah
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Dont forget the Brock Lada Samaras.
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:28 AM   #11
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i only just found out and thought it was interesting so i thought that thir must b others that dont know aswell

i was talking to my dad last nite and he rekons that he got the boot from holden cos he wanted to use sum chip or sumthing on the commodores and holden sed they were crap so they went with hsv, so then he sold them to ford and they put a few in and then sed they were crap to so then ford went with tickford.

dont know how tru that is but yeah
It was in fact a Energy Polariser which he fitted to some VL Group A commodores & worked by changing the Energy of the Vehicle with the help of Magnets or something very much like that.

At the time he claimed that you could even let your Tyres down very low as a result.

Was never proven to work or not work either, just that Holden did not think it could work.

What is it that HSV fit today to their upmarket Commodores, magnetic ride suspension :
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Your talking about the Energy Polariser XBAndrew. Brock believed that this new age box of crystals would line up the atoms on the car and make it go so much better. He also advocated that a high perfromance car with this polariser could be safely driven with tyres at about 20psi (dangerously low). Holden could in no way endorse people driving at 20psi, and could see no proof that energy polariser did anything.

Holden saw it as embarrassing at the least, and a potential legal and PR disaster if tyres, cars or worse PEOPLE suffered due to stress failures in car parts or tyres.

Also at that time Brock wanted to put Euro monza IRS on some HDT Commodores when at that time all holdens had live rear axles. Besides making Holden look bad, for not having IRS, there were durability warrantee ramifications. And holden were working on a different IRS for a future commodore.

Basically brock was getting too adventurous for Holden, They wanted HDT to make Optimised and improved commodores and bathurst specials. Brock wanted to build radically different cars based on holden basics.

Tensions were alrady high when the Polariser thing happened.

The Polariser gave Holden the excuse they needed to cut Brock free and build a relationship with Tommy Walkinshaw, who was a shrewd business man and was quite happy to work within the limitations Holden set.

Interestingly right upt o his death Brock stood by his polariser, claiming it was misunderstood and before its time. My guess is that if it worked and theres a part that only costs a small amount to make but improves a car dramatically, every manufacturer would be doing it.
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brock was a great driver but crazy as a cut snake when it came to building cars. check out the brock lada for a laugh
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:08 PM   #14
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I know of one, full of dents, cats sleeping in it and parked on the front lawn of some ghetto's house...
And theres an AVP EA (with the huge spoiler and ugly headlights) in pretty much the same condition...
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I have been led to belive that one of the Brock I.D plates on the EA was made out of old HDT plates cut in half or 1/4's and turned over or something like that.

Im not sure which plate or where it is. Its just what I was once told so dont shoot me..


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Doesnt sound like there was a lot of respect for them.?
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i know of a wreaked Brock EA sitting at Wanneroo wreakers i kept asking the guy if it would sell it too , me did need a bit of work on the front end due to a crash but he would never do it oh well, im and pretty sutre it might still be there too
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He wants more money.......lol :
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Seems most brock fords aint kept in as high regaurd as brock commys!
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Seems most brock fords aint kept in as high regaurd as brock commys!
Dude...they are still an EA falcon,
Most EA's look pretty tired theses days to say the least.
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Dude...they are still an EA falcon,
Most EA's look pretty tired theses days to say the least.
Like that was ever not true.
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Dude...they are still an EA falcon,
Most EA's look pretty tired theses days to say the least.
There is also alot of tired looking EB, ED, EF and EL Falcons out there too.
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I know of one, full of dents, cats sleeping in it and parked on the front lawn of some ghetto's house...
And theres an AVP EA (with the huge spoiler and ugly headlights) in pretty much the same condition...
APV has bootlip spoiler and std. headlights... are you maybe thinking of something different?...
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Heres a small video about the whole Brock Polariser http://youtube.com/watch?v=aBdppylOFX4
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Where did Peter come up with this polariser idea and did it actually work?
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Theres a Brock EA around my way, dark blue.. looks to be in decent nick still.
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red_hotxr6, do a google search... Also look for Eric Dowker who was Brock's chriopractor & co-nutbag in this idea. Bathurst77 gave an outline (& there is not much more to it than what he said really) earlier on what it is. GM tested cars fitted with polarisers including in America I believe & could not find it having any effect at all.
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APV has bootlip spoiler and std. headlights... are you maybe thinking of something different?...
Probably, there were so many, AVO AVP SVO brock etc...
Now that i think about it, might be AVO? they have the huuuge spoiler and the headlights have a weird cover on them...
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red_hotxr6, do a google search... Also look for Eric Dowker who was Brock's chriopractor & co-nutbag in this idea. Bathurst77 gave an outline (& there is not much more to it than what he said really) earlier on what it is. GM tested cars fitted with polarisers including in America I believe & could not find it having any effect at all.
Thanks its just that i have never heard anything more on it, its like Tracey Wickham,s daughter i never even knew she had cancer or how sick she was until i heard she had passed away..so ok nothing came of the polariser..kool
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Your talking about the Energy Polariser XBAndrew. Brock believed that this new age box of crystals would line up the atoms on the car and make it go so much better. He also advocated that a high perfromance car with this polariser could be safely driven with tyres at about 20psi (dangerously low). Holden could in no way endorse people driving at 20psi, and could see no proof that energy polariser did anything.

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Also at that time Brock wanted to put Euro monza IRS on some HDT Commodores when at that time all holdens had live rear axles. Besides making Holden look bad, for not having IRS, there were durability warrantee ramifications. And holden were working on a different IRS for a future commodore.

Basically brock was getting too adventurous for Holden, They wanted HDT to make Optimised and improved commodores and bathurst specials. Brock wanted to build radically different cars based on holden basics.

Tensions were alrady high when the Polariser thing happened.

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Interestingly right upt o his death Brock stood by his polariser, claiming it was misunderstood and before its time. My guess is that if it worked and theres a part that only costs a small amount to make but improves a car dramatically, every manufacturer would be doing it.

Holden must have listen to some of what brocky wanted. as there were some VL's built with IRS under them.
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