HSV E3 (Series 3)

[FPV8U]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Yeah they are bringing the Windsor back :

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[Elks]

I doubt GM have the funds to accelerate a new model development program. Being that the VE is still the best selling car in the land they would be stupid not to milk it for everything. How do you spell amortisation?? Series 3 why not. Remember this is just a trademark doesn't mean they are locked in yet.

Cool logo though. Pity about the car.

[Swordsman88]

Originally Posted by Elks

I doubt GM have the funds to accelerate a new model development program. Being that the VE is still the best selling car in the land they would be stupid not to milk it for everything. How do you spell amortisation?? Series 3 why not. Remember this is just a trademark doesn't mean they are locked in yet.

Cool logo though. Pity about the car.

I think that is the HSV logo more than the Holden logo. Holden will stay with the MY designation for each model year.....

Funny thing is that when VE launched they made a big anouncement that commodore would not keep the same 'body shell' for as long as previous generations.....e.g. VT-VZ. The MD of the time said it was not possible in the modern market to keep one shape/style for as long because of rapidly changing tastes, and that a 'new' body woudl go on VE in about 4-5 years tops..... This i suppose is kinda correct esp with toyota always putting new 'models' on waht is effectively 99% the same platform/engines etc.

Now they seem to be doing exacltly what they said they wouldn't, its been 4 years approx and no body change at all, save some changes to wheels/chrome and a pontiac limited edition (not regular model) nosecone on SS..... The VF 'update' will come in mid year i suppose but it is not sheet metal just front/rear valent and maybe bonnet. I realise the GFC and GM bankruptcy have hit but you can ad the 'we will change sheet metal' statement to the long long list of holden porkies...

Then again, Ford hasn't changed the sheet metal on territory and it still sells (albeit in lower numbers) and is probably beingheld back by insufficient production...... To be honest, the problems with the VE go way beyond its unchanged styling.....they can put what series badges they want on it when you have an outdated interior and uncompetitive just released drivetrains you've got bigger problems....

[AWD Chaser]

Originally Posted by Elks

Remember this is just a trademark doesn't mean they are locked in yet.

Too true.

Remember the F6 Tempest?

I can see the ad's now:

Introducing the new E Series 2. Quick - runout sale won't last long!

[Gaz]

perhaps the E3 will be seen in June because of Euro4, do the LS3's meet euro4?

[XRtowcar]

Maybe HSV have found a new place to stick on some LED's and need a new model to announce it.

[XR6_190]

Maybe they realized how damn ugly the E2 is, and are rushing the release of a replacement that doesn't make one feel the need to regurgitate.

[TUF_302]

Originally Posted by Lukeyson

Series 3 hey, they are still paying the billion dollar baby off it would seem?

If thats the case then there will be an E4 lol!

[Deco28]

Ls3's meet Euro4.

This is very interesting.

[Falcman0o7]

Eucalyptus Directinjection Toasters.

[LethalLeigh]

Originally Posted by ebxr82nv

yeah but its not really, Its a modular motor. They did use a 5L and 5.8L clevo to. Wrong thread for it I know but does anybody know what degree V theyre using in the coyote.

It'd be a 90 degree V like most V8s. They're carrying over the bore spacing from the Modular series for the sake of being able to maintain some of the machinery used to build to motor too. Anything other than 90 degrees in a V8 is pretty rare and prone to excessive vibration.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Kia Chaser

I cant see any registration for E2 series, however I found E series (1).

E Series: 28 MAR 2006 (Lodgment Date).

Going by wiki, the Sedan was first released in July 2006.


If you want to assume that an E3 will follow the same release schedule (to TM Register) you will be looking at a May/June Release...

correct it's to go with the new driveline

[GS608]

Originally Posted by burnz

correct it's to go with the new driveline

which is?

[burnz]

can't say at this point

[Mr12345678x]

Not HSV but this is apparently a video of a VF mule, the differences described by the person who took the video (senator from ls1 forums) are the air vents being moved to the top and the new front end covered by the bra

http://s1005.photobucket.com/albums/...=Video0010.flv

http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/.../Image0172.jpg

It's so easy for them to test anything based on this platform in the public now, especially drivetrains and interiors...

I remember seeing spy photos of wide-bodied VY's before the VE came out :

[Deco28]

Originally Posted by burnz

can't say at this point

A HSV insider on Ford forums but not HSV ones? o.0 lol, cool.

HMM, I remember over a year ago, people hearing supercharged LS3's going around.

Maybe...

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Deco28

A HSV insider on Ford forums but not HSV ones? o.0 lol, cool.

HMM, I remember over a year ago, people hearing supercharged LS3's going around.

Maybe...

avesco leaked that, it's no secret.
hsv while testing a few transformer mules with vairous ls3 with boltons (ls9) type.
were interupted by avesco official thinking hsv was putting in illegal track times, when he discovered this was not the case couldn't keep his mouth shut.
he did complain about having his phone confiscated thou.

and no i dont work for hsv!!