Are older (but high end) cars classy and cool or embarrassing?

[ego gtp]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

i'll go along with that. its a personal thing and some people mightn't get it.
I real like those old mercs, i reckon a nice looked after one is cool,and i would own one. euro cars always seem to have good leather enteriors. my personal faverate is a 928 s4 porsche which in its day was a good sports car. today, maybe 20- 30k and its mine. if your ok with a spanner you can maintain it yourself and save a packet.

my dad had wanted one of those new but could not afford 200+k for one he bought one 12 years ago. it is in mint condition and his pride and joy and one ORSM machine cheers gary

[onfire]

Each to their own. Classics are classics regardless of who drives them. Be it a 10 year old car, a 15 year old car, it doesn't matter.. forget all of that, if whatever vehicle in your drive way makes you want to drive it and for whatever reason -- it's all good -- and who cares what a kid with a Hulk Hogan inspired user name thinks.

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by HULK_BA

Hope you all enjoyed the thread, just a bit of fun for us ford boys to debate. thread obviously came about due to my party experience with the doctor and that guy upnoting himself with his old mercedes that anyone at that party could easily own. im sure most of you see my point.

After reading the whole thread, I don't think so, I believe you might be in a small group of friends on this one. I have to admit that after reading some of your most recent threads you have to be one of the most judgemental people I have come across in respect to cars.

[EB#]

Originally Posted by HULK_BA

.....due to my party experience with the doctor and
that guy upnoting himself with his old mercedes that anyone at that party
could easily own. im sure most of you see my point.

Whilst this is a kind of interesting/funny thread, there is no real point at all,
based on an eavesdropping experience at a party.
There are a few outstanding issues to this riddle...
a. Who really throws their car keys on a table at a party ?
b. Maybe the 'old Mercedes' bloke has another 3 new ones at home ?
c. Maybe the 'new Merecedes' bloke has another 3 old ones at home ?
d. Maybe they don't even own those Mercs, and they really get around in '89 EA Falcons ?
e. Who says all the people at the people at the party could afford an old Merc ?
f. Maybe they made the whole thing up to gee up the bloke with the XR8 ?

Too many unanswered questions here...
Yep, I watch Columbo....

[pottery beige]

one of the bros has one of those 01?? Audis.. v8 that spins to 8k all the fruit an effin epic limmo...

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by HULK_BA

Hope you all enjoyed the thread, just a bit of fun for us ford boys to debate. thread obviously came about due to my party experience with the doctor and that guy upnoting himself with his old mercedes that anyone at that party could easily own. im sure most of you see my point.

I can't help but wonder that you are a little insecure and need to announce that you could easily own that car.
I'll bet not one other person was 'worried' about whether they could own that car.

[RAPID_BA]

Im not being judgemental im being open minded. I did laugh at the bloke for talking at the doctors level at the party but then I stopped to think, are these cars cool or classy irrespective if they stand up to their modern equivalents or are they embarrassing and worthy of a chuckle due to their wannabe status

Who knows maybe that guy fully owned his old merc where the doctor bought it on finance. Maybe its the doctor being the wannabe?

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by HULK_BA

Im not being judgemental im being open minded. I did laugh at the bloke for talking at the doctors level at the party but then I stopped to think, are these cars cool or classy irrespective if they stand up to their modern equivalents or are they embarrassing and worthy of a chuckle due to their wannabe status

Who knows maybe that guy fully owned his old merc where the doctor bought it on finance. Maybe its the doctor being the wannabe?

Every single thing you have mentioned is judgemental , you don't know their personal wealth.
Because of a conversation that you were left out of, you are judging another individual based on someone that you perceive as having money.

If that's not judgemental then I don't know what is

Ever heard of the phrase "Don't judge a book by it's cover" ?.

[Yellow_Festiva]

The only time I laughed at a person who owned 'such a car' was when I was at an uction once. A leggy blonde walked to her Corrola to leave and one of the agents comes running to talk to her calling out along the way "Hey, do you need me to move my Porsche back a little?"... even though there was 2 metres either end of the Corolla...

Then they had some small talk about the property and he gave her his card lol. Myself (and probably most of the people who heard him) were thinking '******'.

What you choose to drive is a personal thing and no-ones business. I had the best part of 10 years hearing the same crap (I guess in reverse) about my Festiva. I drove it caus it suited me and it had sentimental value. Had I not had an accident it would still be in the garage.

Had nothing to do with me not being able to afford anything better that's for sure.

[RAPID_BA]

Im being open minded by posting up this thread, willing to have my view challenged or validated by other car enthusiasts. If thats not open minded I dont know what is?

Im willing to accept if these old mercs are cool/classy or embarrassing?

[GreenR]

Originally Posted by HULK_BA

Who knows maybe that guy fully owned his old merc where the doctor bought it on finance. Maybe its the doctor being the wannabe?

What are you saying they even want to be?

[RAPID_BA]

Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

Every single thing you have mentioned is judgemental , you don't know their personal wealth.
Because of a conversation that you were left out of, you are judging another individual based on someone that you perceive as having money.

If that's not judgemental then I don't know what is

Ever heard of the phrase "Don't judge a book by it's cover" ?.

Of course I have an opinion, because it doesnt agree with your admiration of old cars im being judgemental. Its an opinion, everyone with opinions is judgemental?

If I say something is white, you say its black, if I say its black you say its white.

[RAPID_BA]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

The only time I laughed at a person who owned 'such a car' was when I was at an uction once. A leggy blonde walked to her Corrola to leave and one of the agents comes running to talk to her calling out along the way "Hey, do you need me to move my Porsche back a little?"... even though there was 2 metres either end of the Corolla...

Then they had some small talk about the property and he gave her his card lol. Myself (and probably most of the people who heard him) were thinking '******'
.

Thats a good example, if he had a rotten old porsche people would have laughed, much like the guy at the party trying to get points for owning a merc.

[JC]

Originally Posted by HULK_BA

Thats a good example, if he had a rotten old porsche people would have laughed, much like the guy at the party trying to get points for owning a merc.

If he had a "rotten old porsche", he'd have a very cool classic. You need your "cool meter" tuned, IMO.

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by HULK_BA

Of course I have an opinion, because it doesnt agree with your admiration of old cars im being judgemental. Its an opinion, everyone with opinions is judgemental?

If I say something is white, you say its black, if I say its black you say its white.

There is a difference between having an opinion and assuming/judging someone, to which your tittle and wording was clearly judgemental.
You stereo-typed this person.

You asked a question, yes we can all agree on that, and that question was,

Are older but higher spec cars classy and cool to own or just embarrassing.

But then you go on about your conclusion to this question by judging one individual on a single momment of your life, you judged.

And by using word's such as,
wannabes, hasbeens, real deal people, being a pretender, big timer,
You single handedly judged this individual.

The only conclusion I can come to is like I said in my other post, did you feel below them ?, out of place that you wern't involved in the discusion ?, a little left out maybe ?, jealousy ?.......

It's allright Hulk, we arn't judging you......

[ELAUBA]

Originally Posted by HULK_BA

Im willing to accept if these old mercs are cool/classy or embarrassing?

Who really cares? Does it really matter? I know people that think Hillman Hunters are cool, and while I don't, there's nothing wrong that that. In fact, having enough strength of character to admit that you think Hillman Hunters are cool in itself makes you cool in my assessment. Let's call that the Hillman Paradox.

What is REALLY uncool, is judging people on the car they drive; what's even less cool is trying to make some sort of assessment of their financial worth based on the car they own/drive/claim to own....and what make someone a complete Wayne Kerr is comparing their relative worth to your own based on any of the above.

I've got about ten cars, ranging from "extremely posh" to "hard-core bogan" across several makes, and from quite new to definitely vintage. It always amazes me the widely differing responses to someone mentioning that I've got a (insert one of the above), particularly if they think it doesn't fit with their perception of my, their or the group's demographic.

I once had the "Ferrari Paradox" explained to me (I owned a car from a competitor brand at the time) and I tend to agree with it: "The sort of girl that will go out with me because she knows I own a Ferrari is not the sort of girl I want to be with: The sort of girl I want to go out with is the sort that will probably walk away if I turn up to pick her up for a first date in a Ferrari"

[MAD]

I still want to know what a 'doctor's level' conversation sounds like, and how I can talk like that.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by HULK_BA

Thats a good example, if he had a rotten old porsche people would have laughed, much like the guy at the party trying to get points for owning a merc.

The age of the car was not the issue, it was the fact that he called out for half the auction to hear that it was his Porsche when there was obviously no need to.

[tex]

Hulk BA = Shallow Hal.

Here's a thought, try really hard to start a thread that's not a dumb *** question. How about making a worthwhile constructive contribution to the forums, instead of making it seem like a bunch of 16 year olds.

I used to find your drivel annoying. It's gone waaaay beyond that now.

Pleasde bugger off and find another forum to sh%t in, leave this one for grown ups.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by ELAUBA

Who really cares? Does it really matter? I know people that think Hillman Hunters are cool, and while I don't, there's nothing wrong that that. In fact, having enough strength of character to admit that you think Hillman Hunters are cool in itself makes you cool in my assessment. Let's call that the Hillman Paradox.

What is REALLY uncool, is judging people on the car they drive; what's even less cool is trying to make some sort of assessment of their financial worth based on the car they own/drive/claim to own....and what make someone a complete Wayne Kerr is comparing their relative worth to your own based on any of the above.

I've got about ten cars, ranging from "extremely posh" to "hard-core bogan" across several makes, and from quite new to definitely vintage. It always amazes me the widely differing responses to someone mentioning that I've got a (insert one of the above), particularly if they think it doesn't fit with their perception of my, their or the group's demographic.

I once had the "Ferrari Paradox" explained to me (I owned a car from a competitor brand at the time) and I tend to agree with it: "The sort of girl that will go out with me because she knows I own a Ferrari is not the sort of girl I want to be with: The sort of girl I want to go out with is the sort that will probably walk away if I turn up to pick her up for a first date in a Ferrari"

quality post.

[Franco Cozzo]

A lot of people here have older cars, stuff from the 60s/70s. I don't think I can live without aircon/power everything and all the goodies new cars have now.

Also I once spoke to a podiatrist who wanted to sell his EB Falcon because he wanted a newer car, I assume they make some decent cash, anyone can own/enjoy everything regardless of social/workplace/monetary status.

[bingoTE50]

Hillman Hunter GT 's are cool ,twin carbs ...lol

[BFZF8]

Originally Posted by tex

Hulk BA = Shallow Hal.

Here's a thought, try really hard to start a thread that's not a dumb *** question. How about making a worthwhile constructive contribution to the forums, instead of making it seem like a bunch of 16 year olds.

I used to find your drivel annoying. It's gone waaaay beyond that now.

Pleasde bugger off and find another forum to sh%t in, leave this one for grown ups.

I dunno ... I think I might be coming around to his way of thinking actually. By his own logic I'm a whole model year cooler than HULK BA because I drive a BF XR8!

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by ELAUBA

Who really cares? Does it really matter? I know people that think Hillman Hunters are cool, and while I don't, there's nothing wrong that that. In fact, having enough strength of character to admit that you think Hillman Hunters are cool in itself makes you cool in my assessment. Let's call that the Hillman Paradox.

What is REALLY uncool, is judging people on the car they drive; what's even less cool is trying to make some sort of assessment of their financial worth based on the car they own/drive/claim to own....and what make someone a complete Wayne Kerr is comparing their relative worth to your own based on any of the above.

I've got about ten cars, ranging from "extremely posh" to "hard-core bogan" across several makes, and from quite new to definitely vintage. It always amazes me the widely differing responses to someone mentioning that I've got a (insert one of the above), particularly if they think it doesn't fit with their perception of my, their or the group's demographic.

I once had the "Ferrari Paradox" explained to me (I owned a car from a competitor brand at the time) and I tend to agree with it: "The sort of girl that will go out with me because she knows I own a Ferrari is not the sort of girl I want to be with: The sort of girl I want to go out with is the sort that will probably walk away if I turn up to pick her up for a first date in a Ferrari"

Not a truer word spoken, here, here.
I have been judged many a times on the fact that I drive an AU and these people were trying to belittle me with my decision and ownership , I laughed at this because I know my own financial circumstances and what not, I have no need to go out and purchase a vehicle that I know I could afford just to "keep up with the Jones".
Some people are very shallow and feel the need to impress, oh well, such as life.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Yes i'm in both the 'frowned on' categories in HULK's book. Both my cars are high end luxo's, over 10 years old, and one of them is an AU :| I should be ashamed of my poser-like ways.

[302 XC]

To critise someone for their choice of wheels
Is just either so one eye and just plain wrong

people buy what they do for whatever their reason is
So two mercedes, BMW, ford,Holden owners mix it up at a party
One drives a new one drives an oldie
Who cares

I own older 4x4s (1997 the newist)
While i have had the newer , few year old models
I never will again
Are parts for my 1997 cheaper than new ???
By a country mile
While the new depreciate , mine due to high demand for that model appreciate
Again i dont care
I didnt buy it to appease the masses,or really anyone else but me

As for comparing prices for the newer falcons
A falcon wouldnt even be on the radar if i was to buy again
Matter of fact only a 4x4 would be on the radar
So the myth again of theres no better buys than a falcon out there
You couldnt give me one,or a holden,or a camry

The myth again that older is dearer to fix and maintain
Again just that a myth

Some people take pride in ownership
Theres owners cars that are maintained will always go the distant
(My old 1980 4x4 has over 500,000k on it since new)
Starts first time everytime,engine never been apart,only just had new suspension bushes put in
Yet some new cars cant dream of that
So old Vs new again, depends solely on the cars maintenance

[JC]

Originally Posted by tex

Hulk BA = Shallow Hal.

Here's a thought, try really hard to start a thread that's not a dumb *** question. How about making a worthwhile constructive contribution to the forums, instead of making it seem like a bunch of 16 year olds.

I used to find your drivel annoying. It's gone waaaay beyond that now.

Pleasde bugger off and find another forum to sh%t in, leave this one for grown ups.

Well said!