78 year old caught doing 170!

[Jason[98.EL]]

Originally Posted by FalconXR6

I love it how some of you blokes actually swallow the bull that some police and government members shove down your throats. Speed kills. Yeah right.

Just because he was pulling 170 doesn't mean an accident was surely impending. Does anyone know where, when, how, conditions (driver, road, weather, etc) this occured?

If it was a straight, clear, queit road which the guy knew like the back of his hand with no traffic away from residential area. Trained, quality driver and an immaculate, capable vehicle - what's wrong with that?

If it was a twisty, dark, wet road he was unfamiliar with plenty of traffic near residential areas. A poor driver in a poorly maintained and unroadworthy vehicle - moronic behavior.

You see the difference? Let's look at the whole picture instead of pointing at "170km" with shocked and dismayed looks and shaking our heads are the sheer insanity of it all...

Take the latest news regarding the Summernats bloke that got nabbed for doing "40km" over the speed limit (oh my god!!! why wasn't his car impounded and the bloke jailed for 5 years, no bail!!!). Sounds good on the headlines. Look at the whole picture and you will see it was in what is normally an 80 zone which was brought down to 40 due to road works. And anyone knows that there are PLENTY of times during roadworks where there is ZERO activity which may have been the case here.

FFS get over the whole "speek kills" crap! Of course speed kills. If a car wasn't carrying speed at the time it pranged, there would be no damage. So yes, speed kills. But let's look at why instead of preaching bull...

ummm can i ask did you read the thread and the links added to it

i dont think you did

He was driving a Nissan Pulsar at 170km/h in a 100km/h zone on the winding Brandy Creek Road,

that was taken from the ninemsn news link

so was it a straight road no it was not

and as for the road works side of it if it is posted at 40 klm then that is what you are asked to do if you get done for over so boo hoo to you you dont look at the speed signs and then deserve to get done

why do people have such an issue with the " car got impounded syndrome " if you are stupid enough ( i am sometimes ) then deal with the results of your own actions and don't and winge about the fact

get over it and learn from it i say

[SVD]

Funnily enough im an old member of the NDSOC :P and i have a very good feeling i know who it was, oh wait, he's from narre north, yep i know the guy :P and let me tell you this, he is a very capable driver and his car is also very capable, but that's not an excuse, take what happened to Peter Brock for example, happens.

[SVD]

Originally Posted by Grimus

ummm can i ask did you read the thread and the links added to it

i dont think you did

that was taken from the ninemsn news link

so was it a straight road no it was not

and as for the road works side of it if it is posted at 40 klm then that is what you are asked to do if you get done for over so boo hoo to you you dont look at the speed signs and then deserve to get done

why do people have such an issue with the " car got impounded syndrome " if you are stupid enough ( i am sometimes ) then deal with the results of your own actions and don't and winge about the fact

get over it and learn from it i say

see but i have seen instances where its got a 40km sign(road works) then about 50mtrs up the road and 80km sign uncovered, does that mean i can do the posted 80? even though it is still a road work area???

[Jason[98.EL]]

Originally Posted by SVD

see but i have seen instances where its got a 40km sign(road works) then about 50mtrs up the road and 80km sign uncovered, does that mean i can do the posted 80? even though it is still a road work area???

if you have a good read you will find that a posted speed limit is from the sign not from when you see it so yes if you see that you can get up to the posted limit and if it drops again in another 50 mtrs you then need to drop to the posted speed at the sign

if you get done i say you need to carry a camera that post the date and time on it then use that to fight it in court

that is only my interpretation of how it is i could be wrong there "redrum could answer this better than me "

but getting back on topic this was a winding road and he got done for 170 kph so what is the problem he done the hooning and admitted it by paying the $600 to get his car back the following allowable day and not fighting it

[Daymoe]

Alright i got a good question for you, its 2 lanes either way, the left side of the road has 100km/h sign facing me and the right side of the road has a 80km/h sign facing me also, does that mean I can go 100km/h in the left lane?

[geehaa]

Originally Posted by Daymoe

Alright i got a good question for you, its 2 lanes either way, the left side of the road has 100km/h sign facing me and the right side of the road has a 80km/h sign facing me also, does that mean I can go 100km/h in the left lane?

As a basic risk management strategy you'd go 80

If you wanted an argument (in the event you got caught) go 100

As for the old man doing 170 - nuts, unless you're on a dedicated track. pretty simple really...

[FalconXR6]

Originally Posted by Grimus

ummm can i ask did you read the thread and the links added to it

i dont think you did

that was taken from the ninemsn news link

so was it a straight road no it was not

and as for the road works side of it if it is posted at 40 klm then that is what you are asked to do if you get done for over so boo hoo to you you dont look at the speed signs and then deserve to get done

why do people have such an issue with the " car got impounded syndrome " if you are stupid enough ( i am sometimes ) then deal with the results of your own actions and don't and winge about the fact

get over it and learn from it i say

Missing the point...

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by FalconXR6

Just because he was pulling 170 doesn't mean an accident was surely impending. Does anyone know where, when, how, conditions (driver, road, weather, etc) this occured?

How about you read the article?

He was driving a Nissan Pulsar at 170km/h in a 100km/h zone on the winding Brandy Creek Road, Warragul, east of Melbourne on January 1 when he was caught.

Acting Sergeant Carlo Visser from Warragul Police Station said the road where the men were nabbed was six metres wide and winding.

That's all you want to see on a winding narrow road when you're coming the other way, some coot with his hat on backwards in a ricer doing in excess of 170kph.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Daymoe

Alright i got a good question for you, its 2 lanes either way, the left side of the road has 100km/h sign facing me and the right side of the road has a 80km/h sign facing me also, does that mean I can go 100km/h in the left lane?

This is a very common situation. The answer is you can travel at the posted speed in any lane (assuming not double line etc) in the direction to which the posted speed refers.

Signs for the other direction are irrelevent.

And yes this is law not logic so it does not have be be safe or make sense.....

[XR8GRL]

Originally Posted by Fev

oh come on - im sure you guys have done stupid speeds like that on public roads.. you just didnt get caught..

Don't think so. :rolleyes:

[Fev]

Originally Posted by flappist

This is a very common situation. The answer is you can travel at the posted speed in any lane (assuming not double line etc) in the direction to which the posted speed refers.

Signs for the other direction are irrelevent.

And yes this is law not logic so it does not have be be safe or make sense.....

i think you misread the question
i think he meant eg:

2 lane road going west
one the left side of the road there is a sign saying 80
on the right side of the road there is a sign saying 100

i think thats what he meant, i've never encountered that before though - i'd stick to 80

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Fev

i think you misread the question
i think he meant eg:

2 lane road going west
one the left side of the road there is a sign saying 80
on the right side of the road there is a sign saying 100

i think thats what he meant, i've never encountered that before though - i'd stick to 80

Yeah and they way i read it flappist said you can do 100 in the right lane and 80 in the left lane.

Never seen it myself, but i take it that there are roads out there like that.

[duaned]

There was another 70 year old tool caught doing burnouts (actually he continued after the tyres had blown) on Xmas day in adelaide as well. He was DUI but it goes age is no barrier. I would imagine it must have been a boring day in the retirement village...

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Fev

i think you misread the question
i think he meant eg:

2 lane road going west
one the left side of the road there is a sign saying 80
on the right side of the road there is a sign saying 100

i think thats what he meant, i've never encountered that before though - i'd stick to 80

That being the case the signage is non compliant and the previous speed limit would probably be valid but it would make an interesting case.

As far as I am aware there is no provision under Australian law for multiple limits on the same road.

PM Keepleft if you need to know the details, he is the legislation guru on here.

[Sorted]

Originally Posted by SVD

i have a very good feeling i know who it was, oh wait, he's from narre north, yep i know the guy :P and let me tell you this, he is a very capable driver and his car is also very capable, but that's not an excuse, take what happened to Peter Brock for example, happens.

i am pretty sure alot of ppl know him, he aint going to live this one down.............

[AC]

I wonder if his white bowlers hats moved around much at that speed ? :

[Bill M]

Originally Posted by SVD

Funnily enough im an old member of the NDSOC :P and i have a very good feeling i know who it was, oh wait, he's from narre north, yep i know the guy :P and let me tell you this, he is a very capable driver and his car is also very capable, but that's not an excuse, take what happened to Peter Brock for example, happens.

I also know of this gentleman and as soon as I saw 78, Pulsar GtiR and 170km I knew who! A serious error of judgement though and I know he will feel the pain of license suspension.
No doubt this will generate lots of comment most it predictably boring.
cheers
Bill.

[flappist]

This thread has to be one of the most "holier that thou" masturbation fests on AFF.

This is a car enthusists' forum. The only members here who have not done a silly illlegal speed at sometime in their driving career are those who have not got a licence yet.

The major reason why a lot of stupid legislation gets implemented is because so many are so quick to lambast others for "crimes against humanity" in the pathetic hope that they will appear as good guys while they do exactly the same things themselves.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by flappist

This thread has to be one of the most "holier that thou" masturbation fests on AFF.

This is a car enthusists' forum. The only members here who have not done a silly illlegal speed at sometime in their driving career are those who have not got a licence yet.

The major reason why a lot of stupid legislation gets implemented is because so many are so quick to lambast others for "crimes against humanity" in the pathetic hope that they will appear as good guys while they do exactly the same things themselves.

Sounds like a p-plater bashing thread.

[Laminge]

Problem Number 1, too many people think they have an opinion, problem number 2 they typed it!