Share the road

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Auslandau

Of course others are going to respond. Bit hard to put a topic (& what is usually a touchy one) onto a forum with a direction saying only those who agree can reply ........ ?

i wasn't asking everyone to agree. i was simply asking not to tar everyone with the same brush. clearly too hard a task for many.

ironically, whenever enthusiasts are all lumped in together with hoons etc on programs like ACA or other publications, all the role models on here are up in arms.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Auslandau

It is not a one way street here ...... it takes 2 to tango. Consideration for all.
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i agree 100%. no where have i stated that cyclists are right and motor vehicles need to give way. this is about sharing the road. i thought, being a car forum, it might be an idea to bring it to the attention of motorists, but so far it is looking like many have some sort of issue with it.

[flooded one]

Originally Posted by Auslandau

.... been in that situation many times. Doing 70k's on a road, suddenly a few bikes abreast on a single road as you come around the bend doing 25k's while their having a Sunday morning chat ...... its either through them, though the bush or overtake. Coming to a stop can be just as exciting. But anyway ..... I suppose I shouldn't have been doing 70 in a 80 zone! It is not just a matter of 'Give way'! It is not a one way street here ...... it takes 2 to tango. Consideration for all.

PS .... Parked cars don't move! Usually they aren't parked on the side of a crappy road on a corner in the middle of the road .....

they (cyclists) can be unpredictable as well. I have had one rouge cyclist go straight out in front of my car just as I was about too pass him. in the left hand lane he was turning right didn't signal his intention either. luckly I had pretty good brakes at the time and was able to stop, either that or I could mount the footpath and hit a large tree or plow into him. these are the clowns that give them a bad name

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by prydey

i wasn't asking everyone to agree. i was simply asking not to tar everyone with the same brush. clearly too hard a task for many.

ironically, whenever enthusiasts are all lumped in together with hoons etc on programs like ACA or other publications, all the role models on here are up in arms.

I can promise you .... in a cyclists Forum, car enthusiasts will be the cyclists nemesis as well

[flooded one]

Originally Posted by prydey

i agree 100%. no where have i stated that cyclists are right and motor vehicles need to give way. this is about sharing the road. i thought, being a car forum, it might be an idea to bring it to the attention of motorists, but so far it is looking like many have some sort of issue with it.

I know what your trying too say. I for one am for safety for all road users. I think maybe if the police started too enforce some of these stupid acts that both sides do. ie( cyclists that think they own the road etc and motorists who try too ram cyclists etc) it might make it safer for all.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Auslandau

I can promise you .... in a cyclists Forum, car enthusiasts will be the cyclists nemesis as well

don't i know it. i play devils advocate there as well.

i know how it is. i ride around and i see cyclists doing things that they shouldn't, but everyday i drive my car as well, and see many motorists doing things they shouldn't.

everyone is entitled to use the road. whether they should or shouldn't is debatable, but they do, so everyone has to deal with it.

[strik9]

i think this sums it up. NOW ON YOUR BIKE. !@#$%^&**(()

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by prydey

don't i know it. i play devils advocate there as well.

i know how it is. i ride around and i see cyclists doing things that they shouldn't, but everyday i drive my car as well, and see many motorists doing things they shouldn't.

everyone is entitled to use the road. whether they should or shouldn't is debatable, but they do, so everyone has to deal with it.

Oh they all do .... throw pedestrians, taxi's, trucks, bus drivers, motorbikes, commodore drivers, P platers, senior citizens (and a whole lot more) makes it all just that little bit harder to share. Unfortunately those with the biggest 'thing' usually wins the argument!

[flooded one]

if I was a copper. that is one thing i'd try too go after is the cyclists vs motorists things. have seen some bad behaviour by both sides. the best advice I can give anyone riding a push bike is keep left as far a possible be aware of everything around you and look out for trouble. I never have been abused on a push bike or been intimidated by a motorists while on a push bike. then again I make sure I cant **** anyone off. I usually ride on the road when traffic flow is quiet or at a moderate flow. when it gets heavy i'll use the foot path and use common sense. I might get abuse by pedestrians and might be breaking the law riding on the foot path but it beats getting hit by a 1.5 tonne car or worse. just common sense

[LG17]

Originally Posted by strik9

so if thats the case, bike riders should ride on the roads that are safe? and have taken bikes into consideration.
as i have proven i,m all for what you do but it needs to be done safely. and alot of the roads arn,t suitable( like mine) and motorists put themselves and other road users in danger by respecting your requirements

Why should bike riders only ride on "roads that are safe" (your words)?

Should cars also have the same restriction?
Many roads were built over horse and cart tracks so maybe we should ban them from there?

All anybody is asking for is a bit of commonsense and respect from both sides.
99.9% of cyclists also own and drive cars so it shouldn't be an 'us and them.'

[LG17]

Originally Posted by strik9

did you not read the part where i said blind corner. the bike was,nt seen by me till i looked in my rearview as to why the truck practically ran me into the bush

I thought as a driver you were supposed to be ready for all situations - that's part of driver training ;)

[Xauterus]

Cyclists really do hinder the travel of some motorists. It is the nature of the vehicle. It's a flimsy unit that is human powered.
The real problem is in a collision between a car and a cyclist is that the cyclist is the one that will be injured or killed. I used to cycle a lot as a commuter and I have seen both sides of people's arguments.
The roads cause a lot of issues. But at the end of the day who is going to get injured? I could not handle killing a person on the road however stupid or arrogant they were.
Unfortunately we are so far behind places in Europe that have made enough allowances for both types of road users.
Step through mopeds get the same attitude in Australia as cyclists. In Europe they are common enough that car drivers accept them and respect them.

If there were enough cyclists on the road then the government would provide better roads and drivers would be more used to them. Hopefully then those cyclists whom over 90 percent of drive a car as well would know how to use the road properly all the time.

I am sure this issue arose as cars started to take over from horses on the road.

[strik9]

Originally Posted by LG17

Why should bike riders only ride on "roads that are safe" (your words)?

Should cars also have the same restriction?
Many roads were built over horse and cart tracks so maybe we should ban them from there?

All anybody is asking for is a bit of commonsense and respect from both sides.
99.9% of cyclists also own and drive cars so it shouldn't be an 'us and them.'

i,ve been giving bike riders on my local road more than respect. but they are a traffic hazard on my road and unless they are retarted realise it. and they are putting motorists at risk using it.
and themselves, but it does seem to be the way with riders

[strik9]

Originally Posted by LG17

I thought as a driver you were supposed to be ready for all situations - that's part of driver training ;)

well i have been driving for 18 years without an accident so you could be right.

and when i chose to ride a bike for fitness i chose a mountain bike cause i was,nt willing to put myself on the road with all the variables.(changed slightly so not to offend, too much ntic)

like people breaking the law talking on the phone and txt and speeding and all sorts of other things.

[big_landau]

problem is when they refuse to move over when you go to pass them,try doing that around my area with a semi/roadtrain coming the other way.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by strik9

i chose a mountain bike cause i was,nt stupid enough to put myself on the road with all the variables.

no need to insinuate that road cyclists are stupid mate. surely as adults, topics can be discussed without stooping to these sort of generalisations.

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by prydey

no need to insinuate that road cyclists are stupid mate. surely as adults, topics can be discussed without stooping to these sort of generalisations.

What?

[AU1XLS]

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