January 2017 new car sales figures

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by mike_nofx

Ok, I get that this is a Ford forum but why do we pray for the success of Ford after the end of Australian manufacturing?

I know manufacturing will likely never return here, but why prove to Ford they made the right choice and that something like a Mondeo is a suitable replacement for a Falcon?

Because they did make the right choice. The Mondeo is a better car than the Falcon. Much quieter, much more refined, better built, more comfortable, bigger boot, more fuel efficient, more advanced features ...

And because it's a Ford. It's like footy, once you follow a team, you don't jump ship. I like all Fords, I don't care where they come from as long as it's a Ford. Ecosport aside, the current Ford offerings in each class are at or near best in class.

Here's to continued success for the blue oval

Originally Posted by csv8

Mondeo Sport Turbo V6 2017....http://www.caradvice.com.au/407653/2...-detroit-show/

That's a year old article. It's been discussed many times already. At the moment there's no plans to bring it here.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by NX74205

Because they did make the right choice. The Mondeo is a better car than the Falcon. Much quieter, much more refined, better built, more comfortable, bigger boot, more fuel efficient, more advanced features ...

And because it's a Ford. It's like footy, once you follow a team, you don't jump ship. I like all Fords, I don't care where they come from as long as it's a Ford. Ecosport aside, the current Ford offerings in each class are at or near best in class.

Here's to continued success for the blue oval



That's a year old article. It's been discussed many times already. At the moment there's no plans to bring it here.

Really? Maybe better than a BF Fairmont but an FGx G6E still trumps a Mondeo.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Really? Maybe better than a BF Fairmont but an FGx G6E still trumps a Mondeo.

In what way?

[Nikked]

Probably because it can tow...:-/

[Smoke Pursuit]

No comfort wise you can't beat the Falcon, then we have performance and drivability. Not everyone needs adaptive cruise control and heated seats. Don't get me started on the aircon!

[bernbo]

Originally Posted by prydey

In what way?

The falcon has soul, and my fgx g6et was cheaper faster and more comfortable. The seating position is fine for my 6ft 110kg, I actually have skill in driving where I can park, and view my blindsots by turning my head as well as control the cruise control either by my foot or finger. I'm quite proud of it. Will mondeo spares, fixes, and forums be around for decades? No. The work mondeo I put a few kms on was as souless and lacking in character as a camry. Sure they are great appliances, do their designed function well, but just like a busted toaster you throw it out and get a new one. It doesn't feel part of the family and no kids go to high school graduations in first gen camrys.

[Joe5619]

Falcons are used to tow... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


I cycle past boat raps all the time & never see Falcon's (or Commodore) parked in there with empty boat trailers. No-one bought a Falcon in the year 2016 for towing.. Your just living 10-20 years in the past when Falcon's actually sold well.

[NX74205]

Whoops. I guess I have inadvertently started a war.

Falcons aren't bad cars, I'm not saying that at all. They are terrific all rounders and long distance cruisers. I'm just tired of people picking on imported Fords just because they aren't made here. A Ford is a Ford, it doesn't matter where it's made, it wears the same badge and is part of the Ford family.

I get that comfort is subjective, but I think the Mondeo's seats are way better shaped and gives better support around corners than in any Falcon I've driven - though I've never driven a GT-P with those awesome seats. It's also easier to get the perfect driving position in the Mondeo.

Originally Posted by bernbo

The work mondeo I put a few kms on was as souless and lacking in character as a camry.

But this I must pick up on. The Mondeo is living proof that FWD mid size cars can be fun to drive. It handles with precision, yet has a plush and absorbent ride. It's a family car with a sense of humour and loves corners, and is also a seriously good looker. It's no hot hatch, but among mid sizers, the Mondeo is one of the best.

The Camry? Now that's an appliance, and looks like one too. The two just aren't comparable.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Joe5619

Falcons are used to tow... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


I cycle past boat raps all the time & never see Falcon's (or Commodore) parked in there with empty boat trailers. No-one bought a Falcon in the year 2016 for towing.. Your just living 10-20 years in the past when Falcon's actually sold well.

Gee, I've parked at a few boat ramps and never seen you cycle past

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

No comfort wise you can't beat the Falcon, then we have performance and drivability. Not everyone needs adaptive cruise control and heated seats. Don't get me started on the aircon!

Our mondeo is quite comfortable...been on many hokidays with it. Drivability? Did fine...handle twistys and freeways without drama.

[P6LTD351]

I love Falcons....but to say that an FGX G6E is BETTER than a brand new Mondeo......ah no.

You may like it better....that's fair enough.

[russellw]

The January Sales stats have been up for over a week now.

Cheers
Russ

[UTXR8]

Originally Posted by mike_nofx

Ok, I get that this is a Ford forum but why do we pray for the success of Ford after the end of Australian manufacturing?

I know manufacturing will likely never return here, but why prove to Ford they made the right choice and that something like a Mondeo is a suitable replacement for a Falcon?

Post of the year!!!!...well said mate...as soon as Ford manufacturing ceased here, I made the decision to never buy a new Ford again...dont give a **** what model they offer, I wont buy one...

[russellw]

Originally Posted by UTXR8

Post of the year!!!!...well said mate...as soon as Ford manufacturing ceased here, I made the decision to never buy a new Ford again...dont give a **** what model they offer, I wont buy one...

An interesting view. So, you are happy to be prejudiced against Ford for not manufacturing here (along with everyone else) but your only other option is a fully imported vehicle anyway with no input of any kind from Australia.

Cheers
Russ

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by UTXR8

Post of the year!!!!...well said mate...as soon as Ford manufacturing ceased here, I made the decision to never buy a new Ford again...dont give a **** what model they offer, I wont buy one...

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by P6LTD351

I love Falcons....but to say that an FGX G6E is BETTER than a brand new Mondeo......ah no.

You may like it better....that's fair enough.

And you have driven both have you?

Im basing my comments on the fact I have driven both. The Mondeo is a good hack car but has no soul. On a long highway trip with overtaking, comfort etc a G6E smacks it.

Plus the Mondeo aircon is woeful! Built for European conditions not Australia.

[UTXR8]

Originally Posted by Nikked

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

are you insinuating i am going to be banned for my comment?....

[UTXR8]

Originally Posted by russellw

An interesting view. So, you are happy to be prejudiced against Ford for not manufacturing here (along with everyone else) but your only other option is a fully imported vehicle anyway with no input of any kind from Australia.

Cheers
Russ

My only other option?...do i not have the option of not buying brand new again?

[csv8]

This will please you guys...my Captiva has been recalled because of a faulty clip in dash trim. Holden could have ignored it, but they didn't.....it takes an hour to replace...

[Windsor220]

I drove one of those "new" Captivas the other day. Feels just like the old one.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by Windsor220

I drove one of those "new" Captivas the other day. Feels just like the old one.

Thats coz it is... Same car since 2006... 11 years old

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by csv8

This will please you guys...my Captiva has been recalled because of a faulty clip in dash trim. Holden could have ignored it, but they didn't.....it takes an hour to replace...

Its not a recall. It a service campaign.

Go have a look at the real recalls on them over the last 10 years

If its still going at the end then WOO!

[csv8]

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Thats coz it is... Same car since 2006... 11 years old

so, 11 years ago it had a 2.2 diesel, 6 speed automatic, apple/android entertainment system. electric park brake, blind spot alert, rear cross traffic alert, dual usb inputs, LED daytime lamps, rear and front park assist, rear camera, projector headlamps etc etc ..I am not saying its the best SUV on the market, but its value for the money....Kuga Titanium is $10k more!!!

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by csv8

so, 11 years ago it had a 2.2 diesel, 6 speed automatic, apple/android entertainment system. electric park brake, blind spot alert, rear cross traffic alert, dual usb inputs, LED daytime lamps, rear and front park assist, rear camera, projector headlamps etc etc ..I am not saying its the best SUV on the market, but its value for the money....Kuga Titanium is $10k more!!!

Its still effectively the same car built on the same Korean chassis. All they have done is added some fruit to keep people interested.

Just make sure you over service it and flick it when its out of warranty and you will be fine.

[Smoke Pursuit]

http://autoexpert.com.au/buying-a-ca...alert-dont-buy

Worthwhile reading Csv8

You have been so critical of Ford's products since I can remember but you bought one of these??

[Mercury 8]

Originally Posted by csv8

so, 11 years ago it had a 2.2 diesel, 6 speed automatic, apple/android entertainment system. electric park brake, blind spot alert, rear cross traffic alert, dual usb inputs, LED daytime lamps, rear and front park assist, rear camera, projector headlamps etc etc ..I am not saying its the best SUV on the market, but its value for the money....Kuga Titanium is $10k more!!!

Have you driven a Titanium Kuga for any length of time or distance? I guarantee you will feel like your driving a VW Kombi when you jump back in the Captiva. There is a reason why they are dearer and as for the electronic gizmos the Captiva comes up a bit short.

[GasoLane]

Back on the original topic please

[X-AHH]

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

And you have driven both have you?

Im basing my comments on the fact I have driven both. The Mondeo is a good hack car but has no soul. On a long highway trip with overtaking, comfort etc a G6E smacks it.

Plus the Mondeo aircon is woeful! Built for European conditions not Australia.

I have driven both and the MD Titanium Mondeo was my choice.

I'm loyal to Falcon but on this occasion, my head won over my heart. Too many people are going the other way and letting their judgement be clouded to save face in front of others here.

[russellw]

For those interested, I've posted a bit of a dimensions comparison between the current crop of Ford models and their predecessors at various points throughout the past 40 years or so.

It's a bit of a high level look but does show a few things worth knowing.

Cheers
Russ

[russellw]

Originally Posted by UTXR8

My only other option?...do i not have the option of not buying brand new again?

Of course you do but your comment referenced buying new and I responded in kind. Presumably you'll be fine for the next decade or two as the stock of used Falcons should last at least that long.

Enjoy.

Russ