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31-03-2020, 09:36 PM | #961 | |||
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yeah, some interesting points here.
i am super introverted so the current setup works for me as business as usual. but my extroverted friends are struggling big time with it. as we get the place they are in, please hear them out when they come calling, i have heard from people of late i have not heard from in just about ever, because, they need help. stay safe, practice your self help and help others as much as you can without neglecting yourself.
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01-04-2020, 01:15 PM | #962 | ||
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I've tried to kill myself a few times since Ex and Family Court screwed me over completely.
Luckily Valium (Diazapam) is not something can usually overdose on (I was very lucky) Now on Endep (Amilytripaline) 50mg a day it's been fantastic. Sleep better particularly. Feel so much but stay safe guys and girls : ) |
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01-04-2020, 02:12 PM | #963 | ||
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Hey take CARE you fellow forumers, I'm not perfect by any means but always happy to reply to any post for support.......
I'm sure many had and still have challenges on top of this pandemic - log in someone will always be here.
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01-04-2020, 08:24 PM | #964 | ||
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Against the 20-odd Aussie deaths ascribed to CV in March, there have probably been over 250 suicides in Australia. It’s a sobering comparison - especially given the difficulties highlighted by others here, in a time of unprecedented suppression.
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01-04-2020, 11:00 PM | #965 | ||
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Grega’s comment about extroverts is spot on, it’s almost hilarious if the current times weren’t so serious- Us introverts need to be strong right now to support our extrovert friends who are really struggling.
I’m also mindful of our retail workers, I spend time in stores unpacking stock, and dealing with daft customers who don’t respect social distancing, leaves my adrenal system pinging off the limiter. I can leave a store after 2 or 3 hrs feeling like I’ve run a marathon. The poor workers who are there doing 12-15 hr days I really tip my hat to. Some are anxious, some have closed down, others are beyond it, trying to laugh off the craziness. I liken the current situation to being in the surf, when a huge wave swamps you, don’t fight it, allow it to ride over the top and stand back up again.The covid wave will pass over us, and there will be the other side. Society tells us that we need to always be in control, and to strive to change what is disagreeable to us. Knowing you can’t change some things is quite liberating.
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02-04-2020, 03:16 PM | #966 | ||
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BTW for those (like me) prescribed Diazapam (Valium) to get off alcohol be very careful.
Don't take for any longer than absolutely required. Withdrawing from Valium was even worse than the drink (which was bloody rough.......the hallucinations not cool at all. I was found in neighbouring properties hiding from a person that didn't exist). |
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02-04-2020, 04:06 PM | #967 | |||
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02-04-2020, 04:36 PM | #968 | |||
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When i lost my daughter in Family Court (pure lies as Ex remarried, made disgraceful sexual innuendo - I was and still am a very proud Dad), I resorted to alcohol (never any other drugs) to get through. Thank you, massively appreciated. Valium screws you up even more though....horrible withdrawal. Last edited by MercuryT; 02-04-2020 at 04:59 PM. |
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02-04-2020, 04:55 PM | #969 | ||
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If anyone wants to know, Amiltripaline still best for me.
Older drug for mental health but a good one (just imo) I was doing a bottle of Vodka and 12 beers a day for 6 months. So yeah, fair bit of damage done (i still can't feel feet or arms due to nerve damage). I never drove or got aggressive etc though as I'd never hurt anyone else. I'm not yet right, but I'm trying to move on : ) Last edited by MercuryT; 02-04-2020 at 05:00 PM. |
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02-04-2020, 05:53 PM | #970 | ||
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I just cut back from alcohol and stopped grabbing my phone when I was bored ?
Some people see dragons n ****... I thought people actually wanted to see me waste copious amounts of $$$$ on a car. Reality cleared my head but , i am just a random internet poster now and much happier /wealthier person in real life ! Cheers Daz... |
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02-04-2020, 06:06 PM | #971 | |||
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02-04-2020, 06:11 PM | #972 | ||
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02-04-2020, 06:53 PM | #973 | ||
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Just been reading through the thread.
I think it's good that a forum like this lets people open up about mental illness. It's like finger prints in that it's never the same for everyone. Always unique and different. Sometimes people can know when they aren't good and life gets dark, while for others it's only afterwards they seem to see how bad it gets. I'm concerned about this virus and what it will do to people's mental well being. Especially with winter approaching. Shorter days, cold whether and nowhere to socialise is going to be really dark. Add in job losses and financial stress..... at least this forum and others lets people open up almost unanimously which could make a lot of difference.
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08-04-2020, 07:17 PM | #974 | ||
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I have found over the last couple of years, tasks that fuel the mind and break the pattern of negative thinking, have really helped me.
The most obvious being my detailing obsession, but I have also enjoyed baking and, recently, rediscovering the power of gardening. I find that when I’m out in the garden, tending to plants, that I’m concentrating on the task at hand rather than what’s bothering me. Not everyone is blessed with a green thumb and you don’t have to be and nor does gardening have to hard work. Try sprouting seeds on a windowsill or plant some seedlings in a pot by the back door. Seeing things grow and flourish is very rewarding and feeds the soul. Despite gardening being my profession, for some reason lately I have found a sense of enjoyment and comfort from my time in the garden. The ability to stick my head into a shrub and forget that the world is pretty crap at the moment is a very powerful tool to have in managing my mental well-being.
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08-04-2020, 07:27 PM | #975 | ||
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I'm with you, I'm not a green thumb but grew up on parents more so Mum right into it.
Building retaining walls, new beds etc and this influenced my brother being a landscaper horticulturist. I learnt enough from both. Once married in our own patch got into working on our yard and obviously mowing lawns I loved, kind of weird but I enjoy it like clening my cars, seeing the finished product. Moved 2yrs ago for Sydney on 290sqm is not too bad bush setting. I couls see probably original owners were capable landscapers for the set up was good but later owners let everything overgrow and neglected. With my wife its been a long haul but very satisfying getting the place in order with our touch as she says. Very good therapy today and for sometime it seems.
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08-04-2020, 10:37 PM | #976 | |||
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I guess what I'm trying to say is don't do gardening unless you're good at it. In the end it was just extra fuel to push me over and do me in more. E: Results may vary, I just suck I guess or I'm unlucky with root knot nematodes, aphids, fruit flies, caterpillars, fungus, root rot, white fly (or whatever that sticky **** is - maybe mites) Last edited by oldel; 08-04-2020 at 10:42 PM. |
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08-04-2020, 10:44 PM | #977 | |||
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It's also nice to hear that you can drop back into your profession in a time of reflection and get some enjoyment / satisfaction out of it...
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09-04-2020, 11:51 PM | #978 | ||
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A timely thread and well.... I never thought I would be typing something like this, I was always a strong, confident person that didnt have a care in the world... That all changed for me 8 months ago when I literally came to breaking point and broke down.
I've never taken depression seriously as I had never suffered from it, I mean, how bad can it be?... now I know. Its one of the most debilitating things I have ever had to deal with.. I have good days, bad days and worse days and it felt like it came from nowhere! I am emotionally exhausted, mentally drained and quite frankly a mess. The same day I broke down, I walked out of work at lunch and I went straight to the GP to get a referral. I needed help and its been one of the hardest things for me to do. I have always been the dependable one, the strong one, the one that is so sure but through this journey I have come to realise I havent been happy for a very long time and I have never talked about ... well, anything. I started seeing a Psychiatrist, trying to work out my triggers and I was actually feeling alot better but in reality I still wasnt being totally honest and hiding behind the pressures of work, putting a face on like I always have.... until recently when I had a massive argument with the missus and I was gauding her to punch me, for her to take the pain and anger out on me, I deserve it... when in reality i was crying out for help. This has forced me to seriously look at myself and how broken I currently am. I have days where I have this overwhelming cloud of despair over me where I literally break down and cant function. I have bouts of anger and frustration with everything and everyone and I will just simply not move off the sofa and just stare at the tv.. couldnt even tell you whats on, lets not get started on the lack of sleep and complete loss of appetite... that I am now seeing the effects of not eating properly... I am beginning to realise I have underlying issues with losing people in my life and it stems back to my childhood, ( doesnt it always ).. I have literally lost everyone in my life I care about and I am now paying for not expressing it sooner. I put up barriers to protect myself for when the inevitable happens and I can carry on as normal. The last week or so I have decided I need to talk, I need to let people in again, I need to express my feelings before I go mad. I took the step and told one of my boss's today because I felt they had a right to know ( been with them for 10 years on the 14th so we all know each other really well) and to give me chance to apologize for my mood swings and bouts of anger. She actually had no idea I was like this and chalked it up to being tired and under pressure.. I apparently hide things well. why am I typing this? I have no idea.... I saw the thread and felt I needed to. It's taken me 30min just to type this, trying to make sense of the jumbled mess that's in my head, hovering over the 'post quick reply' button trying to decide if I should post the wall of text that is just me rambling.. If your reading it.. I guess I pressed it....
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10-04-2020, 12:45 AM | #979 | ||
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Good on you for posting, Creative.
Life is not even or linear, there are ups and downs and we don't know what the downs are about until we get there ourselves. We're all tough until we're not but there is no shame or embarrasment in it. I suffered an issue and ended up in front of a group of really good mates, bawling like a baby, raw and stripped bare of all pretence. I thought they were good mates, now I really know they are. I'm not sure here is a replacement for proper therapy. The best therapy I found was sitting around a fire with a couple of beers, having your mates pull you up when you get too stupid. That's a bit dfficult just now. But we're here to help and support as best we can and get you back to the good places that are there. I'm in one now, a little battered and bruised but living more quietly in world I inhabit. Stay well, PM for a chat if you need. NF
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10-04-2020, 09:14 AM | #980 | ||
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Sounds all too familiar, Creative.
If you get a therapist you connect with, and trust, stick with them. If you feel the one you’re seeing isn’t right, tell them, and ask them to refer you on. They won’t mind, should be used to it. All the best mate, you’ll pull through this. It will be rough, but you’ll pull through.
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10-04-2020, 02:59 PM | #981 | ||
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One of the most important things to come to terms with is that as much as you want there to be, there is no 'magic' pill to take you back to where you we're before.
You've made the hardest steps already in recognising your problem and seeking help. The key is to understand how that help is of benefit to you. Some people expect a complete stranger to have all the answers but as everyone's problems are so different and complex, no one could have all the answers. What they do is help you unlock the tools you already possess in order to help you help yourself, but you've got to let them in and you've got to go all in yourself, its not easy, it will feel so unnatural to begin with but the more you open up the better it will get. Good luck. |
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10-04-2020, 09:56 PM | #982 | |||
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[QUOTE=whitelion65;6424229
If you get a therapist you connect with, and trust, stick with them. If you feel the one you’re seeing isn’t right, tell them, and ask them to refer you on. They won’t mind, should be used to it.[/QUOTE] came to say this. a few years ago I spoke with a phone counselor, 2 or maybe 3 psychologists and finally found a psychiatrist that I 'clicked' with. The psychiatrist changed my meds and we had a handful of sessions, I liked her approach to quickly cut through the garbage and get to the point. Now I have access to a counselling service through work. First guy was great, easy to speak to and I chatted to him pretty often. Sometimes just a 2 minute 'everything is good' and other times it was an hour discussion. He has since moved on and I didn't click at all with his replacement so I have found another counselor but she is on a different work site to me so I only see her when it is 'needed' and the same unhelpful thoughts have been floating in my head for longer than they should.
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14-04-2020, 02:14 PM | #984 | |||
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My Daughter was involved in a serious car accident about 5yrs ago, she really struggled in the months after, it affected her grades, sport, home life, nothing was the same. We arranged for her to see a Psychologist, she went for 3 or 4 sessions and then decided it was a waste of time because all they did was tell her to count her breathing when she felt overwhelmed. I asked her what she thought was lacking from the interaction, she said she didn't feel any better, I said you've only been a few times give it a chance, nope, should be better by now and that was it. Still to this day she hasn't made any progress and every time she blows up and starts blaming others for her predicament I remind her that we did everything we could to help her, but you cant help someone who wont help themselves, she just goes on about what a waste of time counting her breaths would be and I just shake my head...the irony. |
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So too is it with the professional's themselves, I was originally referred to a bloke whom my Dr said would be excellent for me, I wasn't comfortable with his attempt at hypnotherapy of listening to his recordings, the next person I saw was an Asian lady who was completely different in her approach and it just worked, I actually enjoyed speaking with her and am a different person today than I was 4yrs ago. The first one made me feel like a victim, the second one challenged me not to be. |
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14-04-2020, 03:06 PM | #986 | |||
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The psychiatrist I clicked with basically told me I wasn't alone going through divorce. I felt alone but there were heaps of other people getting divorced so I wasn't unique.. something along the lines of "you feel alone in your boat on the ocean, look around there are heaps of people alone in their boats" so get on with life.. there were a few breathing/relaxation tips throw in for good measure. and it also took maybe 4-6 different medications to find the 'right' one for me.
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14-04-2020, 03:41 PM | #987 | ||
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I PMd Creative and response was awesome.
I am no Dr but can say this. Endep (Amilytripaline) even though an old TriC drug not SSRI best for me. Nil sideaffects and sleep really well. The new ones really took a toll on me. Made me feel out of reality etc. Just my experience (again, see your Dr) but I'm staying with it as worked for me that's all. Last edited by MercuryT; 14-04-2020 at 03:50 PM. |
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23-04-2020, 06:07 PM | #988 | ||
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Well after another breakdown for no reason I am trying to motivate myself a bit more to help distract my mind. I have found if I keep myself busy I can deal with things a lot more rationally.
I have decided to try a do something every day that I would enjoy, be it gardening ( I hate gardening btw ), tweaking the server/computers/playing with a Rpi ( altho linux isnt good for me in long doses lol ) my quads, or setting my garage up ready for a project. I also have all these tools but never use them... so today I used them all! built myself a welding table, welded for the first time ever making it and learnt alot, mounted all my benchtop tools, secured the benches to the walls, changed the garnet in the sandblaster ( what a messy job that is) and just generally tried to relax... It helped a bit I guess but I have to keep at it.....
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Hi guys,
When I got divorced and lost my house and a lot of money but still had my job. I had to find some where else to live and I found a granny flat not far from where I worked then in Parramatta. I was in bed looking at the ceiling one night thinking "how the hell did my life get to this"? A few nights later I used to go to bed around midnight and wake up the same time at around 3am in the morning. This went on for a week waking up the same time so in the end I went to the Doctor and we had a chat. He asked me "do I feel suicidal"? which of course I said "NO" He then gave me a Doctors Certificate for ten days and told me "just to go away for a while". I got in the car and took off best thing I did I ended up driving down to Apollo Bay and it did me the world of good. Some times you think your the only one going thru this and nobody cares which isn't the case at all there's people out there to help you and listen to you. |
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