Wearing the aussie flag as a cape....

[AndrewR_AUII]

Originally Posted by BFYOOT

Exactly right mate, if your wearing the flag for no other reason than you love our great country, than good on ya. If you hang your flag over your door to your room vertically for no other reason than you like to see it before you go to sleep and when you wake up, then good on ya. If you've got tat's of all our symbols all over your body, simply because you love being an Australian, then my hats off to you.
If you wear the flag because you like to stick it up the other nationalities, and try to show them that they are not wanted, whilst getting boozed and making the flag look like a drunken joke, then your a turkey and dont deserve to see it ever again.
The biggest concern of our diggers is that ANZAC day will one day be forgotten, so they are full of pride when they see our youngsters out there supporting what they have achieved, and what they have given us, with flags around shoulders or not.

Well said.

[Zed7fiddy]

Originally Posted by xy500

On yet another side note, i find it bizarre when you see people with the southern cross stickers on their car, but their car is japanese/european or another foreign brand. If you really were that patriotic and loved your country so much you wanted everyone to see, wouldn't you buy australian everything? It seems to me to be as much about being cool and fashionable to be seen with 'australiana'. We sound more and more like the yanks the more i think about it...

Butying a commodore or falcon is as australian as buying a camry or 300?

its all owned by overseas companies!

[[Tonko]]

Originally Posted by XR6_661

What grinds my gears, is all these flat brimmed, unit wearing mini truckers who get the southern cross tattooed on, stickers on everything, etc.

I have a southern cross sticker on my back window. I get heaps of people giving me the thumbs up, and to have a symbol of Australia permanantly on a visible part of your body is a big thing, so i say good on them.
The mini-truck and unit hats on the other hand.... :togo:

[XT302]

Originally Posted by XA_GT351

Speaking of which. anyone watch today tonight about the officer bashed leaving him with permanant injurys, The purportrator.. a big "tough guy" wearing aussie flag shorts,

The presiding Judge, jury should have their heads read, watching the footage of the launch/headbutt, had me realling and feeling ill.

[Spanrz]

Originally Posted by auslandau

If we showed as much patriotism as the Yanks do .... is that a bad thing though? They drape the flag out of respect for there country ........ as what it represents, and are proud to do so. The flag is the identity of a country and the way people use it .... in a positive manner ..... shows the freedoms that are allowed in that country, and being proud of where they are from.

Too right. Well said Aus! Like I said earlier, the yanks win easily over us about "patriotism". Nearly every house has a flag outside the front door.
Especially around cultural events (Thanksgiving).
It's as good as being an Aussie at the olympics/commonwealth games when an Aussie wins gold. Or even better, when the Aussies won the America's Cup and you were in Perth/Freo at the time of the Australia II landed in the dock.(hehe)

Originally Posted by auslandau

unless it's at a cricket match

Ahhh yes, beloved cricket! Cmon, sing it, you know you want to...
What it's all about.. For those who remember these guys!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnmjXEyZovE

[reece1]

wear it dont, wear it. its a free country so each to there own. there is alot of good points from both sides of the argument. but no matter where i see it or how it is being used. i love it. except for the little pr##K who burnt the rsl one a few years back. instead of punishing him they rewarded him with a trip. that made me sick. that would have made a digger roll in his grave.

[Rob's 76 Effy]

Originally Posted by reece1

wear it dont, wear it. its a free country so each to there own. there is alot of good points from both sides of the argument. but no matter where i see it or how it is being used. i love it. except for the little pr##K who burnt the rsl one a few years back. instead of punishing him they rewarded him with a trip. that made me sick. that would have made a digger roll in his grave.

No he wasn't rewarded with a trip, the RSL forgave him for what he did and showed him on the Kokoda trail what Aussie soldiers faced and went through and if you happened to watch the show about the trip he did show full remorse, he also showed a lot of nuts to stand up in front of that RSL and say he was sorry for his actions, not condoning what he did in the 1st instance was right, let it rest

[IDT]

Originally Posted by auslandau

Off on a slightly different tangent but all ties in.

........ we eat out coat of arms. Does that show dignity and respect to our country? Is the flag or the coat of arms more important in showing respect?

I don't and I won't eat roo or emu. But I dont consider them "as" our coat of arms. They are just animals that are "on" our coat of arms and I won't even go into how many hundreds of thousands are killed on our roads.

[/QUOTE] Nothing worse than being told on the correct way to show your patriotism. Isn't that a form of oppression? [/QUOTE]

So should we keep our opinions to ourselves for fear of being labelled oppressors?

[xy500]

Originally Posted by 67-FKD

Butying a commodore or falcon is as australian as buying a camry or 300?

its all owned by overseas companies!

Yeah they are similar, but at least more of the money goes to australian engineers, designers, managers, 3rd party manufacturers, Forums () etc.
Bring back the Valiants, esp. the charger i say! I'd fully support a 100% australian made car.
My point is, buying a ford or holden puts more money back into australia than the alternatives. Am i the only one who sees the hypocrisy? Similar to australian flags made in other countries
Besides, i'm yet to see those southern cross stickers on a 300 or a camry
Must be the wrong crowd

[MethodX]

Whilst id personally like the flag changed, the current one needs to be shown respect. no wearing it as a cape as something as solemn as a gallipoli service or on Anzac day. its tacky and disrespectful.

[xy500]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Whilst id personally like the flag changed, the current one needs to be shown respect. no wearing it as a cape as something as solemn as a gallipoli service or on Anzac day. its tacky and disrespectful.

Yeah i agree, i always thought anzac day was supposed to be a sombre reflective occasion. Something as distracting as a flag cape is disrespectful.

[azaxr8]

I agree with most of the posts. My last australia day i spent at the foreshore having a few quiet brews with a few close mates having a good time and the constant idiots in my age bracket 18-24 running around with the flag draping and being flat out racist and disrespectful to everyone around them is a absolute joke.

That is Un-Australian.

[Keepleft]

Originally Posted by xy500

On yet another side note, i find it bizarre when you see people with the southern cross stickers on their car, but their car is japanese/european or another foreign brand. If you really were that patriotic and loved your country so much you wanted everyone to see, wouldn't you buy australian everything?

Ummm, "no", that would be insane!

It seems to me to be as much about being cool and fashionable to be seen with 'australiana'. We sound more and more like the yanks the more i think about it...

Nothing wrong with increased numbers of people displaying the national flag, but we are *far* from patriotic and proud to the American extent.

Those who choose to be 'offended' by AUS flag displays, tend to be those who seek a change to it; a la H. Scruby category via AUSFLAG, loopy PC apologists, extreme left-wingers, and various extreme and not so extreme republicans, even gimme's.

Such is life.

Lighten up a bit, enjoy this delightful French MP3 road safety ad.
http://www2.securiteroutiere.gouv.fr...2006_07_06.mp3

Or this pdf:-)
http://www.securiteroutiere.gouv.fr/..._cle221c56.pdf

[macca13]

Well I am 'offended' by by people wearing the flag as a cape and I don't want it changed I like the fact that I can say I'm Australian without having to wear a flag to prove it. But if they feel the need to advertise the fact they are Australian all well and good but not on ANZAC day the only flags on that day should be on a pole and being saluted.

[svo347]

Originally Posted by xy500

It isn't some item of clothing. It's the right and privelege of every australian to fly the flag. And by fly i mean properly display, as it is a privelege to display it.

Damn i find that funny as #$# to read, privilege my A$$, Its a god given right to wear,fly the aussie flag as how i want to or anyone else for that matter. ANZACS yep ive had relatives on both sides of my family that died in the wars, if i wanna wear,fly or whatever the aussie symbol/flag i will
:togo:

[xy500]

Originally Posted by Keepleft

Those who choose to be 'offended' by AUS flag displays, tend to be those who seek a change to it; a la H. Scruby category via AUSFLAG, loopy PC apologists, extreme left-wingers, and various extreme and not so extreme republicans, even gimme's.

Such is life.

well i'm not offended by it, or do i want it changed. It either annoys me or i find it funny as its stupid. I don't care if you all keep doing it, i'll just keep laughing at you! Just like i will with hyundai drivers.

Damn i find that funny as #$# to read, privilege my A$$, Its a god given right to wear,fly the aussie flag as how i want to or anyone else for that matter

It aint no right, it is a privelege and an honour that can be taken away, there is laws regarding this kind of thing.
btw, god didn't give anyone rights, people give and take away rights, god gave you life and choices.

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by xy500

.............. It aint no right, it is a privelege and an honour that can be taken away, there is laws regarding this kind of thing.
btw, god didn't give anyone rights, people give and take away rights, god gave you life and choices.

It is a right, a privelege and an honour ..... something that could never be taken away. Thats what makes here a good place to be

........... don't know where the god thing came from though.

Originally Posted by WAForce8

So should we keep our opinions to ourselves for fear of being labelled oppressors?

HUH? Free speech is all part of the whole flag waving thing ...... I'll wear my flag and you can tell me its not right. We can both do this without being thrown into jail ..... good isnt it! Legislate either though and bingo!

And by the way ..... you should eat Kangaroo. Very lean, full of iron and very yummy. Roo tail soup is also great but can be a bit fatty.



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[uranium_death]

I have seen a few people wearing the Australian flag as a cape.

Most people who wear the flag as a cape behave appropriately.

However, you get those young 15/16 year olds (wearing the flag as a cape) who think that they're just great, everything they say is sharp, witty, and that everybody else around them founds them just as funny as they find themselves, and they're untouchable. These same little toads walk past cops in numbers and chant, "get a real job", not realising that serving people at McDonald's isn't a respected job once you're a grown man.

You get those people who decide to swill beer and bourbon and coke, lose control of their faculties, and cause trouble.

Too many people see the flag as "Ours". Why? Unless you're Aboriginal, then you're no different to anybody else. We've all come from overseas from somewhere along our family tree.

The second verse of the National Anthem actually means something (that's right. Not just a song to yell out loud while you're a drunken sod at a sporting event)...

Beneath our radiant Southern Cross
We’ll toil with hearts and hands
To make this Commonwealth of ours
Renowned of all the lands
For those who’ve come across the seas
We’ve boundless plains to share
With courage let us all combine
To Advance Australia Fair.

We all come from different lands, different backgrounds, and we all have different stories to tell. However, Australia offers a country where people can be free, and where people's beliefs and cultures can be celebrated, not shunned.

Too many people who state to have "Aussie Pride" and "love their country" are the first people to throw their cigarette butts on the ground, jam their packet of chips between the planks on a park bench, and throw their bottle of VB in the gutter.

To me, to actually love your country doesn't come down to what you wear.

It's in the heart. That's all that matters.

[GK]

Originally Posted by 67-FKD

Butying a commodore or falcon is as australian as buying a camry or 300?

its all owned by overseas companies!

What? You mean the Commodore isn't an Australian car? LOL!

GK

[GK]

Originally Posted by auslandau

It is a right, a privelege and an honour ..... something that could never be taken away. Thats what makes here a good place to be

Rights can be removed at any time. Just ask Americans post 9/11. When people are afraid, they'll give up almost anything to "feel" safe. Look at the potential raft of new taxes that Kevin is going to try to thrust upon us because of the Climate Change scare, despite it doing nothing of actual value to the environment, and penalise us economically in the process. And people of this great nation are lining up to kiss his butt over it. :

Originally Posted by auslandau

........... don't know where the god thing came from though.

Perhaps he's suggesting that there's something higher than our perceived rights etc?

Originally Posted by auslandau

HUH? Free speech is all part of the whole flag waving thing ...... I'll wear my flag and you can tell me its not right. We can both do this without being thrown into jail ..... good isnt it!

Indeed! It's great.

Originally Posted by auslandau

And by the way ..... you should eat Kangaroo. Very lean, full of iron and very yummy. Roo tail soup is also great but can be a bit fatty.

Love roo. First had it cooked by my Aboriginal mate. Can't say I like the idea of the soup though! LOL!

GK

[VSSII]

People wearing the national flag as some kind of clothing is just another example of slipping standards from people that generally don't know any better. Years ago I remember the disgust shown by many Americans when Ben Johnson and another of their athletes draped themselves in their flag for a victory lap at the Olympics. It was unheard of but due to their upbringing they didn't know any better. The French are just as patriotic and respectful if not moreso in regard to their flag. I don't think most people would be aware that it's a terrible sign of disrespect for the flag to touch the ground. But who would have told them? It's just par for the course today. Most of us don't even know the words to the second verse of our national anthem.

If you chose to wear the flag as some kind of clothing then knock yourself out but be aware that anyone who has served in any armed services or hell.. has even been in scouts will be far from happy with you. And generally thats who we are celebrating. (Those who have served, not the boy scouts!)

[JG66ME]

Originally Posted by VSSII

People wearing the national flag as some kind of clothing is just another example of slipping standards from people that generally don't know any better. Years ago I remember the disgust shown by many Americans when Ben Johnson and another of their athletes draped themselves in their flag for a victory lap at the Olympics. It was unheard of but due to their upbringing they didn't know any better. The French are just as patriotic and respectful if not moreso in regard to their flag. I don't think most people would be aware that it's a terrible sign of disrespect for the flag to touch the ground. But who would have told them? It's just par for the course today. Most of us don't even know the words to the second verse of our national anthem.

If you chose to wear the flag as some kind of clothing then knock yourself out but be aware that anyone who has served in any armed services or hell.. has even been in scouts will be far from happy with you. And generally thats who we are celebrating. (Those who have served, not the boy scouts!)

These are all good points. Whilst I understand peoples desire to show their love for the flag and country, there are rules in relation to the treatment of the flag. Choosing to ignore these rules to me shows a disrespect. It isn't hard to find out how the flags should be respected.

For example, if you want to fly the flag in your front yard, you should ALWAYS haul it down at sunset and raise it at sunrise. If you cannot do that then you should have it flood lit.

If it gets tatty from the sun, rain etc, replace it with a new one. Don"t leave it flying looking like it was on a battleship at the battle of Jutland.

If you hang it from a wall, makes sure its the right way around, that is, if displayed as it flys the union flag is to the top left. If it hangs down the Union flag is to the right.

Also understand the flag. That "bit" in the corner is not the "English" flag, nor is it the "Union Jack".

Here are some of the correct protocols.

http://www.flagaustnat.asn.au/protocol.php



At the end of the day you should show your love for your country as you see fit. Just be aware that some ways may be good for you but offend others if you choose to go with your own protocols.

Steve
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[xbgs351]

Originally Posted by JG66ME

These are all good points. Whilst I understand peoples desire to show their love for the flag and country, there are rules in relation to the treatment of the flag. Choosing to ignore these rules to me shows a disrespect. It isn't hard to find out how the flags should be respected.

For example, if you want to fly the flag in your front yard, you should ALWAYS haul it down at sunset and raise it at sunrise. If you cannot do that then you should have it flood lit.

If it gets tatty from the sun, rain etc, replace it with a new one. Don"t leave it flying looking like it was on a battleship at the battle of Jutland.

If you hang it from a wall, makes sure its the right way around, that is, if displayed as it flys the union flag is to the top left. If it hangs down the Union flag is to the right.

Also understand the flag. That "bit" in the corner is not the "English" flag, nor is it the "Union Jack".

Here are some of the correct protocols.

http://www.flagaustnat.asn.au/protocol.php



At the end of the day you should show your love for your country as you see fit. Just be aware that some ways may be good for you but offend others if you choose to go with your own protocols.

Steve
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(See that link has already been posted)

If it hangs down the Union Flag should be in the top left corner. It makes my blood boil when I see it done the wrong way.

[BJ]

Originally Posted by xbgs351

If it hangs down the Union Flag should be in the top left corner. It makes my blood boil when I see it done the wrong way.

What are you the flag police. Get over your self will you. As most have said here we all have a right to voice our own opinion just like you, it is our patriotic right or is that wrong as you see it.

[RG]

Enough with flaming posts or this will get closed.

I find it odd that people are flaming others opinions yet get upset when their posts are flamed.

[cob115]

love aussi pride : ,iv got a flag pole with the aussi flag flying on it in my front yard,i drive a aussi coupe 351 of corse,love to were my flag aussi aussi aussi

[BJ]

Originally Posted by RG

Enough with flaming posts or this will get closed.

I find it odd that people are flaming others opinions yet get upset when their posts are flamed.

I have no problem with people voicing there opinion, but take a fence when it is directed with defamatory comments.

Some on here think that none of us have any pride in our country.

[Geez Louise]

Well theres your problem....you should have taken a gate!

Seriously, we are all not going to agree on this issue and I think just about all points have been raised and discussed.

I think we all need a beer and a good ole yarn tellin around the fire. Let it go people. Aussies are known world wide for being relaxed and carefree.

Yes, the flag is very important but so is getting along :

[Jason[98.EL]]

Originally Posted by Geez Louise

Well theres your problem....you should have taken a gate!

Seriously, we are all not going to agree on this issue and I think just about all points have been raised and discussed.

I think we all need a beer and a good ole yarn tellin around the fire. Let it go people. Aussies are known world wide for being relaxed and carefree.

Yes, the flag is very important but so is getting along :

Could not have said it better

Jason

[JG66ME]

Originally Posted by xbgs351

If it hangs down the Union Flag should be in the top left corner. It makes my blood boil when I see it done the wrong way.

You are quite correct.