Puma Axed except for EV

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

They might be but also get the sales because they are cheaper in most instances, undercutting other import markets, stealing copyrights, IP and patents, are most subsidized by their own government and have a lousy track record towards their own people.

Who remembers ye olde Hobbs pressure switch?

The Chinese copy is way better, much higher quality control and higher cycle life compared to the original still being made (now in Mexico) and on clapped out old tooling.

The Americans are making a rod for their own back, though mind you the little 'mom and pop' types are really keen on international markets, but the corporates are like pulling teeth and treat us like we should be thankful they're responding to an email 4 weeks later.

Last time I checked working conditions weren't too good in the US either, so I'm not sure thats much of an angle on China to be honest, the joint relies on illegal Mexicans to do everything and they subsidise their farmers to prevent foreign competition.

[kevino]

Read yesterday
300 new Puma s for Ford to sell and that’s it

Q Ford Brisbane seem to have a large number of new Escapes to sell ranging 22 to 2023 models

[Crazy Dazz]

too bad
I was looking at this for the missus, but there just aren't any around. She ended up getting a Nissan Joke instead.

Does Ford still actually have an office in Australia? Because "Ford Australia" now just seems to be a running joke. They've been doing the same thing for years (decades?) now:
1. Get a Good Car
2. Don't bother marketing it
3. Don't carry any stock
4. Axe it because it isn't selling well enough

The Puma is apparently very popular in the UK, so it's not like they're going to stop making RHD versions.

[kevino]

How does she find the Juke?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

too bad
I was looking at this for the missus, but there just aren't any around. She ended up getting a Nissan Joke instead.

Does Ford still actually have an office in Australia? Because "Ford Australia" now just seems to be a running joke. They've been doing the same thing for years (decades?) now:
1. Get a Good Car
2. Don't bother marketing it
3. Don't carry any stock
4. Axe it because it isn't selling well enough

The Puma is apparently very popular in the UK, so it's not like they're going to stop making RHD versions.

I think you're mistaken good sir,

There's no Ford Australia, only 'Ford Ute'

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

There's no Ford Australia, only 'Ford Ute'

Have to wonder what will happen, in a cycle or two, when the Ranger is nolonger king of the heap? Will Ford simply follow Holden out the door?

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

too bad
I was looking at this for the missus, but there just aren't any around. She ended up getting a Nissan Joke instead.

Does Ford still actually have an office in Australia? Because "Ford Australia" now just seems to be a running joke. They've been doing the same thing for years (decades?) now:
1. Get a Good Car
2. Don't bother marketing it
3. Don't carry any stock
4. Axe it because it isn't selling well enough

The Puma is apparently very popular in the UK, so it's not like they're going to stop making RHD versions.

I'd say its the supply that has been the issue and no-one here from FoMoCo Au will ever say anything officially
E.g.
Escape is released and immediately no stock becomes available as I ordered one and it was on the boat rounding Freemantle one year after I ordered and then cancelled.
Ford Transit large van is updated and E version released yet no stock arrives and stop sale put in place.
Puma never gets full range and limited supply all along.
Ford Focus gets dropped, probably class leader from my actual drives.
Ford Fiesta gets dropped, even more likely class leader.
Ford Transit Custom trickles in like a small crack in a steel tank, just as van sales should go up due to growth in home deliveries and other competitor models not being updated as quickly as planned, plus it is at the top of it's class segment as well.
Ironically today I hear an ad saying Transit Custom stock is available off the floor and the all-new model is just starting to show up in showrooms at the same time
And yes pricing by the locals for Mustang Mach E and Edge compared to opposition products is/was plain stupid, as well as not offering a higher performance version just as that type of vehicle gained popularity at the time.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

There's the Dodge Charger turbo inline 6 as well, but that won't come here so more non-sale

Does absolutely nothing for me, the inline turbo 6 wouldnt even be enough to get one even if it came here.
I cant remember the last time i seen a puma on the road, im sure they are a decent car and my time in Euro fords tells me it probably is.

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Who remembers ye olde Hobbs pressure switch?

The Chinese copy is way better, much higher quality control and higher cycle life compared to the original still being made (now in Mexico) and on clapped out old tooling.

The Americans are making a rod for their own back, though mind you the little 'mom and pop' types are really keen on international markets, but the corporates are like pulling teeth and treat us like we should be thankful they're responding to an email 4 weeks later.

Last time I checked working conditions weren't too good in the US either, so I'm not sure thats much of an angle on China to be honest, the joint relies on illegal Mexicans to do everything and they subsidise their farmers to prevent foreign competition.

Shoutout to China's Flyhawk model ships, they are better than the Japanese companies' offerings, and that's saying something!

[stefcio007]

That’s odd. Just asked Ford about when there will be more details about the Puma Electric and this is what they said

In relation to your enquiry, Ford Australia has no confirmed plans at this stage to expand our current product range to include the Ford Puma Electric.

Your comments will be directed to our design teams who will utilise this feedback to help us continually build excellent products for the future.

So no electric version either? Confused.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by stefcio007

That’s odd. Just asked Ford about when there will be more details about the Puma Electric and this is what they said



So no electric version either? Confused.

Ha, I got the exact same response when I asked if Ford was going to offer single-cab chassis next-gen Ranger. I asked my salesman a week later and they told me that they already had them in stock and ready to go.

Ford management have no idea what they are doing, and that flows through to the rest of their employees, right down to the customer service department.

[stefcio007]

There’s an Electric SUV expo in August and I basically asked if they were going to have a Puma Electric there given they made an official announcement in April 2023 and nothing since thought they might have something. No doubt lots of potential buyers will be there.

I’m not in the market but thought it might be fun to have a look at where the industry seems to be heading. Dad took me to the international car expo in 2006 at the Melbourne Exhibition Center and obviously being a kid wasn’t in the market but had a good time, haha.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Ha, I got the exact same response when I asked if Ford was going to offer single-cab chassis next-gen Ranger. I asked my salesman a week later and they told me that they already had them in stock and ready to go.

Ford management have no idea what they are doing, and that flows through to the rest of their employees, right down to the customer service department.

CRC is run outside of Ford. Its basically a marketing company Ford pay each month to filter customer complaints. It then has to liaise with people with in Ford.


Most of the staff at CRC wouldn't know a Ford from a Toyota so expecting anything technical from them would be a waste of time.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

CRC is run outside of Ford. Its basically a marketing company Ford pay each month to filter customer complaints. It then has to liaise with people with in Ford.


Most of the staff at CRC wouldn't know a Ford from a Toyota so expecting anything technical from them would be a waste of time.

But I bet they have a Canstar award. Whatever that is ?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

But I bet they have a Canstar award. Whatever that is ?

Just like Maccas having the health tick of approval

[Syndrome]

Puma EV also axed

https://www.msn.com/en-au/motoring/n...uv/ar-AA1qLJf9

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Puma EV also axed

https://www.msn.com/en-au/motoring/n...uv/ar-AA1qLJf9

Looks like Ford Europe wants all production for its own markets,
meanwhile, Mazda, Toyota, Kia & Hyundai carry on regardless…

[Syndrome]

Aweful car. I had one for two days when the dealer was replacing the bushes on the rear of my FG X. Brand new loan car. As soon as I drove it out of the dealers yard I thought something was wrong. It had a low engine speed vibration which made me initially think it was diesel. But no it was a petrol.

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Puma EV also axed

https://www.msn.com/en-au/motoring/n...uv/ar-AA1qLJf9

Should be wonderful for resale.

Meanwhile, they are saying they will be back:

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-new...nging-electric

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Aweful car. I had one for two days when the dealer was replacing the bushes on the rear of my FG X. Brand new loan car. As soon as I drove it out of the dealers yard I thought something was wrong. It had a low engine speed vibration which made me initially think it was diesel. But no it was a petrol.

You’re trolling.

The Puma ST-Line we had was a brilliant little car, the engine was smooth, the gear changes quick and smooth and the dynamics were spot on.

[jpd80]

I don’t understand the hate/dislike for Puma, it’s a nice little package that I wish India was building..

[Syndrome]

Problem with people of your ilk - you cannot understand how people can have a different opinion to yours.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Puma EV also axed

https://www.msn.com/en-au/motoring/n...uv/ar-AA1qLJf9

Of course

Ford CEO: Americans need to get back in love with small cars
Ford Australia CEO: Hold my beer

Originally Posted by jpd80

I don’t understand the hate/dislike for Puma, it’s a nice little package that I wish India was building..

I'd much rather the smaller Fiesta that its based on, what benefit is there of the same thing thats taller and heavier?

Its easier to get in and out of, for people with health problems,

Thats about it, there is literally zero benefit to having the same engine and gearbox with a few hundred extra kilos to lug around.

It takes longer to stop
It doesn't turn as well
It uses more fuel
It wears out tyres and brakes faster

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Of course Ford CEO: Americans need to get back in love with small carsFord Australia CEO: Hold my beer

[kevino]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Aweful car. I had one for two days when the dealer was replacing the bushes on the rear of my FG X. Brand new loan car. As soon as I drove it out of the dealers yard I thought something was wrong. It had a low engine speed vibration which made me initially think it was diesel. But no it was a petrol.

That’s just a three cylinder engine characteristic

[kevino]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Of course

Ford CEO: Americans need to get back in love with small cars
Ford Australia CEO: Hold my beer



I'd much rather the smaller Fiesta that its based on, what benefit is there of the same thing thats taller and heavier?

Its easier to get in and out of, for people with health problems,

Thats about it, there is literally zero benefit to having the same engine and gearbox with a few hundred extra kilos to lug around.

It takes longer to stop
It doesn't turn as well
It uses more fuel
It wears out tyres and brakes faster

You will soon require an SUV

May I suggest $23990 drive away Chery Tiggo 4
Steering handling braking are to acceptable levels for $23990 d/a customers

[Syndrome]

Not a fan of the 3 cylinder engine kevino.

[kevino]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Not a fan of the 3 cylinder engine kevino.

Fair call
Everyone has their favourites
I m prob more four cyl but the three s give you a lower entrance price and do the same job as a four 90 per cent of the time

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by kevino

That’s just a three cylinder engine characteristic

I disagree, saying it was “awful” was just trolling.

It’s NOT “awful”, that engine has won its fair share of global awards and it’s brilliant.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

I disagree, saying it was “awful” was just trolling.

It’s NOT “awful”, that engine has won its fair share of global awards and it’s brilliant.

Just like the mighty 3.8L Buick V6