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Old 11-10-2010, 04:44 PM   #1
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Default Holden Calais V Redline Edition Sportswagon VE II

Holden Calais V Redline Edition Sportswagon VE II
Drive Away Price: $73,274.00
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Summary
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Vehicle Details
Make Holden
Model Calais
Series VE II
Badge V Redline Edition
Engine Multi Point F/Inj
Gearbox Automatic
Gears 6
Engine Size 6.0L
Cyls 8
Doors 4
Body Sportswagon
Vehicle Features & Options
Dual Airbag Package
Anti-Lock Braking
Auto Climate Cont With Dual Temp Zones
Alarm System/Remote Anti Theft
19 Inch Alloy Wheels
Brake Assist
Cruise Control
CD With 6 CD Stacker
Central Locking Remote Control
Digital Video Disc Player
Electronic Brake Force Distribution
Electronic Stability Program
Fog Lights
Head Airbags
Engine Immobiliser
Leather Steering Wheel
Leather Upholstery
Mobile Phone
Parking Distance Control
Performance Brake Package
Power Front Seats
Power Mirrors
Power Steering
Power Windows
Radio CD With 9 Speakers
Seat Belt Pre-Tensioner
Side Front Air Bags
Trip Computer
Traction Control System
Pricing Details
Drive Away Price: $73,274.00
Includes All On Road Costs

WHY CANN'T FORD BUILD A WAGON LIKE THIS ????? There must be a market, or Holden wouldn't build it !!!!

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Old 11-10-2010, 04:50 PM   #2
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Its a nice package Ill give them that...but Holden are prone to building cars without a great business case for them. This one is ok though, simply using existing parts to create a "new" model...its very smart and not rocket science.
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Old 11-10-2010, 04:54 PM   #3
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Its a nice package Ill give them that...but Holden are prone to building cars without a great business case for them. This one is ok though, simply using existing parts to create a "new" model...its very smart and not rocket science.
Do you need rocket science to build a Holden
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Old 11-10-2010, 04:55 PM   #4
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That list has no more to it than what a G6ET has, except being a wagon. $20,000 extra is a lot of money for it.
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Old 11-10-2010, 04:55 PM   #5
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For 73K i can't see them running out the door..

Does look quite good though.
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Old 11-10-2010, 04:57 PM   #6
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For 73K i can't see them running out the door..

Does look quite good though.
LOL I didn't see the price, holy cow..LOL...Wouldn't that money buy you a HSV wagon?
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:07 PM   #7
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Vehicle Details
Make HSV
Model Clubsport
Series E2 Series
Badge R8 Tourer
Engine Multi Point F/Inj
Gearbox Manual
Gears 6
Engine Size 6.2L
Cyls 8
Doors 4
Body Wagon
Vehicle Features & Options
Dual Airbag Package
Anti-Lock Braking
Auto Climate Cont With Dual Temp Zones
19 Inch Alloy Wheels
Brake Assist
Body Kit
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CD With 6 CD Stacker
Central Locking Remote Control
Driving Lights
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Limited Slip Differential
Leather Steering Wheel
Parking Distance Control
Power Front Seats
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Rear Spoiler
Seat Belt Pre-Tensioner
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Sound System With 11 Speakers
Sports Suspension
Trip Computer
Traction Control System
Pricing Details
Drive Away Price: $72,990.00
Includes All On Road Costs
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:08 PM   #8
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hold on...73k for what is basically a Calais V with performance brakes? they better be gold plated. I cant see anything extra apart from that..
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:08 PM   #9
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Wow you get bigger brakes and 19' wheels they will sell. Im sure Ford have a business case for something similar........NOT, i highly doubt there is a market for them. So what your saying for more money you will buy a calais wagon over an R8 Tourer?
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:12 PM   #10
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hold on...73k for what is basically a Calais V with performance brakes? they better be gold plated. I cant see anything extra apart from that..
Not even all around you only get front performance brakes
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:15 PM   #11
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Monaro, Crewman, that 4WD Commodore thing, yep Ford should have built one of them too. i would never buy a Commodore wagon (Hatch) for over $70g's

Jousting Sticks maybe.....
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:25 PM   #12
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Why not just buy a Clubspurt wagon for that money???
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Old 11-10-2010, 06:20 PM   #13
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73 kay DAMN! That's nearly GTS coin...
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Old 11-10-2010, 06:37 PM   #14
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Might be cool, if it was $20k less..
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Old 11-10-2010, 06:47 PM   #15
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That list has no more to it than what a G6ET has, except being a wagon. $20,000 extra is a lot of money for it.
Was just thinking the same thing myself.
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LOL, HSV E3 Wagon is cheaper!!!

Gee, i wonder which one id go for? hmmm... 260kw of AFM crippled performance or 317kw of the real thing....

That said the F6X or TTG would have offered similar performance to the USS Redline Hatch... and we know how that finished..



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The F6X was excellent :'(
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Old 11-10-2010, 07:52 PM   #18
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Definetly dealer mark-up. Isn't the Calias-V wagon 63k + 1.5k for Redline?
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I was looking at the magazine ad for this Holden are running, pushes the whole "FE3" suspension package, then in the small pring "FE3 suspension package only available on Redline Sedan".

So for the wagon and ute you're paying more, for less. And is it really $73K? That has to be a typo, there is no way someone would be colossally stupid enough to buy it for that sticker price?
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WHY CANN'T FORD BUILD A WAGON LIKE THIS ????? There must be a market, or Holden wouldn't build it !!!!
I'd rather Ford built a proper wagon, that Holden thing is only half a wagon

A Territory Turbo dumped would be more useful.
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Definetly dealer mark-up. Isn't the Calias-V wagon 63k + 1.5k for Redline?
Redline is $1500 introductory price. Normal Price is $2500 then you add the cost of the V8.soon adds up
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A Territory Turbo dumped would be more useful.
A dumped terri in general. Transforms the car IMO.
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It has cost Holden 9/10 th of sfa to put another option on the lots.. Win for Holden IMHO...


If people want them (market research) and they don't go on a limb fiscally to deliver why is that not a smart strategy?>
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not so long ago 45 grand for a car was big money. people in the city have families, and they also have money. not everyone does but professionals do, tradies generally do, and if theres nothing to combat it and its what they need, they are gonna buy it. if holden sells 15 cars thats pretty close to 1 million dollars.

and if they dont sell, they have a runout and slash the prices, and still walk away with a profit. like a supermarket.

if theres no competition, name your price.
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Yea, they really have built a nice wagon, but imagine a G6ET wagon, I would have one, and I don't even need one!
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LOL I didn't see the price, holy cow..LOL...Wouldn't that money buy you a HSV wagon?
yes, but they are ugly.
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Monaro, Crewman, that 4WD Commodore thing,
yep, holden have a habit of building cars that don't sell and then canning them a year later. it doesn't seem to sink in to many on AFF though. apparently ford should copy every decision holden make. apparently if one manufacturer can build something then there is no reason the other can't.

show of hands who will stump up 50k for a wagon, let alone 70k.

where's brazen?? isn't this his baby?
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If I drove home in that Calais V 'Redline' Edition Sportswagon and told anyone with half a brain that I paid 73k for it I would be the laughing stock of Australia (not to mention the entire Holden Dealership laughing at me as I drove off).
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It has cost Holden 9/10 th of sfa to put another option on the lots.. Win for Holden IMHO...


If people want them (market research) and they don't go on a limb fiscally to deliver why is that not a smart strategy?>
Supply will be limited to how full the parts bin is. IMO that bin will stay full at that price
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Redline is $1500 introductory price. Normal Price is $2500 then you add the cost of the V8.soon adds up
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Still a massive rip off.
And that V6 SIDI whatever; it's so underpowered and weak it would struggle to pull a hobo off your sister.
Honestly, how can they even mention the word "Sports" when that complete waste of good metal is under the bonnet?

This thing will go the way of the Adventura and other brain snaps from Holden.
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