FH Falcon MUST HAVS!

[chookaradley]

With Ford confirming the return of the XR8 lets all assume the FH Falcon is now locked in.

I thought id start a thread about your expectations from this vehicle feature wise?. With the VF setting the benchmark at least in tech, and Bob Grazziano all but admitting Ford wont match Holden feature for feature what would you expect the new Falcon to be kitted out with? e.g

# A version of "sync"?
# Head up display for high series?
# Blind Spot monitoring?
# Heated and fully electric seats
# Better brakes and rubber for performance models?

Taking this into account and understanding the penny pinching nature of Ford releasing a car that is only going to market for a max of 2 years. what would you expect to be left out, or kept the same as FG...

Thoughts???

[Road_Warrior]

Some of those things are the stuff of dreams (HUD and heated seats). Unless the tech/stuff is already immediately accessible to Ford Australia in the parts bin, it won't get the nod.

I expect it to have
Keyless entry
Goddamn auto up drivers window
EPAS
Front parking sensors
Blind spot alert
Better/more comprehensive ICC (no Sync I think)

[csv8]

Ford must match or come close to the VF..Their world car parts bin does have the parts.
If not, don't expect sales to improve.
Auto up window has been on everyones wish list for years!!!
Electric passenger seat on Titanium..hope they get rid of G6/G6E name.
Have a look what the Taurus has and what we miss out on !!!
http://www.ford.com/cars/taurus/

[BOOSTEDGAZ]

Remember though guys those products are aimed at the family luxury car market not the GT Style performance and modding market there is a big difference Ford know they are selling to a market who will buy, modify and play so don't really consider that stuff necessary. So will keep the frills to a minimum don't except much more than what we already have it is the end of the line after all.

[buggo]

I'd expect it to match up with what the Territory has plus a few extra touches. Nothing revolutionary.

I'd like to think that the highest performance versions (XR8/6T Sprint or something) will get the R-Spec rear end package but that's wishful I think.

Sat-Nav standard in lower models, maybe from G6E/G6LE up.

Brakes and suspension will be relatively untouched, too much of an investment for a shakey 2 year return.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by csv8

Ford must match or come close to the VF..Their world car parts bin does have the parts.
If not, don't expect sales to improve.
Auto up window has been on everyones wish list for years!!!
Electric passenger seat on Titanium..hope they get rid of G6/G6E name.
Have a look what the Taurus has and what we miss out on !!!
http://www.ford.com/cars/taurus/

G6ET already has 8 way electric seats so I'm not sure what you're on about there. Perhaps 6 way front passenger seats?

That said it ***** me that the Territory Titanium only gets 6 way electric drivers seat whereas the G6ET gets 8 way, and the Territory Titanium is a more expensive car.

Territory has EPAS so I'd expect that to carry through to the Falcon.

[RANGEREST]

Originally Posted by GTGAZ

Remember though guys those products are aimed at the family luxury car market not the GT Style performance and modding market there is a big difference Ford know they are selling to a market who will buy, modify and play so don't really consider that stuff necessary. So will keep the frills to a minimum don't expect much more than what we already have it is the end of the line after all.

^^^^^
This,
I'm hoping for more but don't expect it, I'd like to buy one more aussie built car (ford) and be really happy with it! before the choice is taken from us.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by buggo

I'd expect it to match up with what the Territory has plus a few extra touches. Nothing revolutionary.

I'd like to think that the highest performance versions (XR8/6T Sprint or something) will get the R-Spec rear end package but that's wishful I think.

Sat-Nav standard in lower models, maybe from G6E/G6LE up.

Brakes and suspension will be relatively untouched, too much of an investment for a shakey 2 year return.

Match up with the Territory? The FG2 already does that. FG2 G6E already has GPS.

FH will have most things that an MC Mondeo Titanium has.

1- DRL's
2- HID's
3- Front park assist with radar cruise control (Changes were made at broadmedows to implement this technology and test it).
4. Blind Spot assist (already in Mondeo).
5. Keyless Start / Entry.
6. Auto wipers.

Things it wont have.

1. Auto park.
2. Rear radar.
3. Wheel size upgrade (we wont see 20 inch rims on any FH's).
4. Sunroof option.
5. Heads up Display.
6. Electronic handbrake.

[comagutsa]

you will be lucky to get better brakes on the XR8 .. and bugger all for anything else

[ebv8]

a 351kw engine in a limited edition collectors version of the XR8
no frills just a lot of power
a techy cars in 20 years will be worth nothing when all the tech breaks or stops working or no longer works with current hardware

[AndyXR6T]

Auto up window, Bluetooth music and phone sync should be standard. It the bloody ranger gets it why not the falcon ?

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by AndyXR6T

Auto up window, Bluetooth music and phone sync should be standard. It the bloody ranger gets it why not the falcon ?

FG2 gets bluetooth music and phone sync to some degree.

[MercurySilver]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

G6ET already has 8 way electric seats so I'm not sure what you're on about there. Perhaps 6 way front passenger seats?

That said it ***** me that the Territory Titanium only gets 6 way electric drivers seat whereas the G6ET gets 8 way, and the Territory Titanium is a more expensive car.

Territory has EPAS so I'd expect that to carry through to the Falcon.

what ***** me is only the driver seat has electric stuff while the passenger seat is pov
mates nissan 4wd thingy they paid less for than my g6et was brand new has twin electric heated seats

ford was always way behind in some things
(heated seats is a bit namby pamby imo, but full electric in top of the range cars should be the norm)

[TC200six]

Last I heard the current Falcon still doesn't come with a digital radio. That is one thing that other Fords already have that the Falcon doesn't.

[blk6t]

well we all know it comes down to budget etc.

But it at least needs to be on par with the VF in regards to tech and gadgets (excluding HSV). I think it would then be a good package, but I think the aftermarket accessories needs a revamp, Oh and get some better quality fake leather Ford!!! The seats in the GT are rubbish compared to my old BA XR.

[BadMax]

Everything the equivalent VF and nothing less.

[SantoAU]

millennium falcon cockpit
29" wheels as standard
james bond style licence plate changers
turbo boost ala knight rider
900 speaker surround sound
scarlett johannssen in the boot
$15k drive away

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by SantoAU

millennium falcon cockpit
29" wheels as standard
james bond style licence plate changers
turbo boost ala knight rider
900 speaker surround sound
scarlett johannssen in the boot
$15k drive away

Perfection ! (although some decent brakes would be nice as well !!)

[tezxr8man]

How about a V8 ute with a manual for people who enjoy driving cars????

[Pepscobra]

Originally Posted by SantoAU

millennium falcon cockpit
29" wheels as standard
james bond style licence plate changers
turbo boost ala knight rider
900 speaker surround sound
scarlett johannssen in the boot
$15k drive away

You are a tool mate...!
Jessica Alba is heaps hotter.
All others agreed.

[buggo]

Originally Posted by DASH GT

Match up with the Territory? The FG2 already does that. FG2 G6E already has GPS.

FH will have most things that an MC Mondeo Titanium has.

1- DRL's
2- HID's
3- Front park assist with radar cruise control (Changes were made at broadmedows to implement this technology and test it).
4. Blind Spot assist (already in Mondeo).
5. Keyless Start / Entry.
6. Auto wipers.

Things it wont have.

1. Auto park.
2. Rear radar.
3. Wheel size upgrade (we wont see 20 inch rims on any FH's).
4. Sunroof option.
5. Heads up Display.
6. Electronic handbrake.

I meant more in terms of EPAS etc, and G6E was a typo for G6. So everything besides XT and basic trimmed XR6.

Is the interior a complete redesign like AU>BA, or more along the lines of FG>FG2?

[bangm001]

If just be happy with diff bushes that dont fail! ;-)

If you want all those mostly useless gizmos in a car, go but a VF.

[CyberWasp]

Everyone is talking about the GT but what about the XR6T / Typhoon.
It deserves a last hurrah as well as it is the last all Australian 6 Cylinder Engine.

Twin Turbo - 400+Kw
and what name do you call it.
Gale Force Typhoon

[XRTickfordNZ]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Everyone is talking about the GT but what about the XR6T / Typhoon.
It deserves a last hurrah as well as it is the last all Australian 6 Cylinder Engine.

Twin Turbo - 400+Kw
and what name do you call it.
Gale Force Typhoon

Fordzilla

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Everyone is talking about the GT but what about the XR6T / Typhoon.
It deserves a last hurrah as well as it is the last all Australian 6 Cylinder Engine.

Twin Turbo - 400+Kw
and what name do you call it.
Gale Force Typhoon

There is no GT, and No F6.

[SantoAU]

Originally Posted by Pepscobra

You are a tool mate...!
Jessica Alba is heaps hotter.
All others agreed.

them's fightin' words

[buggo]

Originally Posted by bangm001

If just be happy with diff bushes that dont fail! ;-)

If you want all those mostly useless gizmos in a car, go but a VF.

That's the reason we're talking about the last Falcon though, everyone has bought something else.

[Silver Ghia]

Originally Posted by DASH GT

FH will have most things that an MC Mondeo Titanium has.

1- DRL's
2- HID's
3- Front park assist with radar cruise control (Changes were made at Broadmeadows to implement this technology and test it).
4. Blind Spot assist (already in Mondeo).
5. Keyless Start / Entry.
6. Auto wipers.

Things it wont have.

1. Auto park.
2. Rear radar.
3. Wheel size upgrade (we wont see 20 inch rims on any FH's).
4. Sunroof option.
5. Heads up Display.
6. Electronic handbrake.

Sounds like a good compromise with all useful stuff there, if thats the case (except no power windows auto up?); a good package IMO.

My thoughts on auto parking is that people who need it shouldn't have a licence.

A factory sunroof option would probably require further ANCAP crash testing / structural modifications, which we know Ford won't want to do.

[SSVPom]

Buyers ?

[csv8]

Road Warrior I meant 6/8 way passenger seat. New Mondeo needs 8 way drivers seat, current model Titanium 3 way is not acceptable. You only have to look at Mazda 6, i40, 300C etc to see how far behind the G6E is. Maybe, FORD should do what Harley did, ask the riders what they want on the bike and build accordingly. Rushmore series.
DAB only works in capital cities but should be standard. VF has it. Rockhampton is trying to get DAB...