A Road rules Question

Longreach · 19-10-2006, 10:45 PM

Hey all

Basicly i have a question to do with the road rules and who has right of way.
Let me explain the situation, you and another car come to a cross road.
Both heading in opposite directions. There is a stop sign for both of you, and you both wish to turn right. As in i am crossing to the furthest side of the road from me and coninuteing right, and he is crossing to the closest side to me and continueing left.

Who has right of way and who turns first?? At traffic lights i know you both go at the same time, but i feel that at cross roads there is not allways sufficent room, and i was wondering this so if something were to go wrong i know i wasn't in the wrong so to speak or better yet avoid being in the wrong at all.

Thanks
Pat

angelwithinvisiblewings · 19-10-2006, 10:46 PM

I have wondered this too.

plext · 19-10-2006, 10:50 PM

The ruling in NSW is that you are both supposed to turn inside each other, as in the traffic light scenario.

If room precludes this, common courtesy and common sense should prevail. Granted, neither of these things are common, but in event of an accident, I would assume that blame would be laid upon both parties.

Black XR6 · 19-10-2006, 10:56 PM

As far as I know you both turn at the same time in this instance.

AUXRVIII · 19-10-2006, 11:00 PM

If you love your car & don't want to get it damaged in a moment of confusion, let the other driver go first.

Longreach · 19-10-2006, 11:06 PM

Ye if room prevails for both to go its generrally what happens, i just find it annoying when both me and hte other person are lettin the other one go and in the end waste oppertunitys to go and it takes us twice as long. Since if its a clear road no worries, but if you have to wait for a spot and your both leaving it to each other and its take awhile for the other person to catch on then you can be left there for awhile ahah.

iCat · 19-10-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AUXRVIII

If you love your car & don't want to get it damaged in a moment of confusion, let the other driver go first.

Ditto. Bugger what's right or what's wrong. Been in this situation regularly and always wave the other driver through first.

new2ford · 20-10-2006, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Black XR6

As far as I know you both turn at the same time in this instance.

What he said - inside each other.

Keep a broom in the boot to sweep up the broken glass in case the other driver got their licence from a cornflake packet!

Feathers · 20-10-2006, 08:05 AM

I always let the driver with the least distance to travel go first.

I'm pretty sure thats what either my driving instructor or my Dad suggested.

LTDHO · 20-10-2006, 08:07 AM

This is where courtesy comes in, as pretty much uses it, the cars will collide. No one will be fined for failing to give way. Both people will blame the other driver.

merlin · 20-10-2006, 08:16 AM

Err...you both turn at the same time.....

photn · 20-10-2006, 08:54 AM

you should normally wait for the person who is closest to the corner to turn..its courtesy and you will avoid an accident, if the other person doesnt go then you should go....

red_october · 20-10-2006, 10:27 AM

That's actually a good point to raise, this scenario confuses the hell out of any driver. As a general rule, I let the car who's arrived at the stop sign first have the right of way, be it the other car, or myself. Otherwise, I just wave to the other driver to go first. I'm in no rush to get a prang.

Black XR6 · 20-10-2006, 10:49 AM

In this scenario, if the other car had his blinker on for turningh right and instead went straight, and you happened to turn at that time htinking he was going right, I am guessing you would be to blame.

merlin · 20-10-2006, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Black XR6

In this scenario, if the other car had his blinker on for turningh right and instead went straight, and you happened to turn at that time htinking he was going right, I am guessing you would be to blame.

Hmm interesting. I think you could get him at fault if you could prove he had an indicator on - you would need witnesses though.

20-10-2006, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by merlin

Hmm interesting. I think you could get him at fault if you could prove he had an indicator on - you would need witnesses though.

You would still be failing to give way. Indicators mean s**t all as well as brake/tail lights in a accident. You can drive at 10kmh in a

Stupid rule, another stupid rule I heard about in a similar situation is at a traffic lights, even if you have a green arrow to turn right across the road, if someone going the opposite direction runs a red light and you collide, its your fault! WTF?!

drcook · 20-10-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AUXRVIII

If you love your car & don't want to get it damaged in a moment of confusion, let the other driver go first.

thats what the other driver was thinking....

LTDHO · 20-10-2006, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackLS

You would still be failing to give way. Indicators mean s**t all as well as brake/tail lights in a accident. You can drive at 10kmh in a

Stupid rule, another stupid rule I heard about in a similar situation is at a traffic lights, even if you have a green arrow to turn right across the road, if someone going the opposite direction runs a red light and you collide, its your fault! WTF?!

This is true, people assume green means go, infact it means proceed if safe to do so.
It sucks but it's true, always make sure the path is clear before continuing and hope the other driver gets busted for running a red (hope they are hooning or speeding to get busted :P)

[Tonko] · 20-10-2006, 03:12 PM

I have a question for ya's.
At an off set round-a-bout (not a perfect cross but some exits close together) do you indicate by exit points or visual direction?
I asked my driving instructor this and he said exit points but the copper that pulled me over said otherwise...

LTDHO · 20-10-2006, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TonkoXR8

I have a question for ya's.
At an off set round-a-bout (not a perfect cross but some exits close together) do you indicate by exit points or visual direction?
I asked my driving instructor this and he said exit points but the copper that pulled me over said otherwise...

Depends on the state you are in.

Some states in Australia (i'm lead to believe) indicate out of roundabouts.

If the street you are turning into is not directly infront of you then you indicate to display your change in direction.

Longreach · 20-10-2006, 06:23 PM

So basicly from what i gather from responces to my first question, knowone really knows?? Because there is not always room to turn inside each other, and waving each other on is fine but at end of the day if something happend someone would be in the wrong correct? Might ask the next copper i see and tell you the results.

angelwithinvisiblewings · 20-10-2006, 08:04 PM

My driving instructor taught me always to indicate your way out of a round a bout.

MO · 20-10-2006, 08:14 PM

If you are on his right then you should have right of way..your e.g. was a bit unclear.

As for roundabouts you indicate in and out.

Black XR6 · 20-10-2006, 08:47 PM

But both cars will be on each others rights. When two cars travel in the opposite direction they are both on each others right.

So thus, both have right of way.

MO · 20-10-2006, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Black XR6

But both cars will be on each others rights. When two cars travel in the opposite direction they are both on each others right.

So thus, both have right of way.

So its a diamond turn.

As I said the e.g. was a bit unclear.