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Formally RED XR8
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Mornington, Vic
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Hi everyone,
I'm wanting to update my car (02 Hyundai Accent) but I can't afford to spend much money. It won't be my main car, wife has BA XR8, been looking around at heaps of different types of cars and I think that the EL GHIA's look like a good thing. Can anyone please advise me if they are good, what to look out for and approx what I should pay for one. I have considered a BA XT also but I think a EL GHIA would be nicer. Thanks in advance, Greg. |
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Now drifting a falcon
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Albany Western Australia
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no offense to ghia ppl, the ba xt would probably be nicer. but if its what you are after they are quite a good all round car........smooth lol
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: KNOX
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BA XT's are ****. no offence to XT owners.. but id so much rather an EL Ghia plus the cash difference aswell is a bonus.
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Brisbane
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EL Ghias are a good thing and are quite a bit nicer than the XT's when it comes to creature comforts. The EL Ghia's were well sorted by the time they hit the market which cannot be said for the BA's as they are the first of the new lineage and came with the types of problems you would expect (plus quite a few you wouldn't).
If you get a tidy EL, you can expect pretty trouble free motoring with all the luxo bit's you could want. If you get the BA, you can also expect pretty trouble free motoring but will be short on the luxury. The age of the EL's raises the odds of troubles and when compared to the BA this would probably tip in favour of the BA for reliabilty. Personally, I would buy the BA as it is "nice" enough and is a current car. Also, the age of components is dramatically different which will see your BA supported by Ford whilst the EL is effectively not supported beyond current stock. A set of wheels and lowered the BA wins the looks dept for mine too. |
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: melbourne
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Hi Gents,
REDXR8,i just bought myself a El FairmontGhia ,mocha Foam in colour ,Cappuccino leather,1 owner with books 5litre V8 with 140,000k's on the clock..Car is mint in and out and has always been garaged..It is a dream to drive ,quiet,no rattles or knocks,great sound system and heaps of smooth power for every day driving.You think the car has 40,ooo k's..! Im so happy with it...The El ghia is beautifully appointed and its 2 tone interior adds a touch of class..I honestly Love it..So there you have it there's my spin on it....A real nice car for under $9,000... ![]() |
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Parts bin special
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Narre Warren, Vic
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I have driven a BA XT, and found it very nice to drive. The mechanicals are excellent. My only criticisms though are that the seats do get uncomfy on a long drive (not a problem with the Ghia), and that the driver's footwell seems quite cramped. There are pros and cons to both. The main problems with the EL are that it's now an old car and parts do tend to wear out over time (power windows are a good example). The EL Ghias are a great car, but I'd probably still choose the BA.
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FG G6ET
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Wesside
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I've driven a Series 2 XT and i would chose my car (EL Ghia) over it. Thats from a drivers perspective and the all the extra luxurys. But on the mechanical side you will have more to go bung with an EL (want a list lol) The ELs are getting pretty cheap these days and most parts you can usually get from a wreckers.
Oh and the EL handbrake cover rips the BA one :hihi: |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sth East Melb
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The BA XT is clearly going to be a far better car. But the EL Ghia will give you luxury. The EL's are pretty reliable, but dont forget they are getting old.
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I have owned an EL Ghia I6, EL Ghia V8, and a BA XT. The XT wins hands down. The EL Ghia's are great cars, and i very much like them, but the BA XT is miles ahead in almost every aspect. Safety, handling, brakes, power and ergonomics in the XT are just miles ahead of the EL. The only thing you're really missing in the XT over he EL, is the leather trim. BA has IRS, smarter ABS with EBD, twin piston calipers (front), better steering, sequential shift auto, and better economy.
For an XT (BA MK1) don't pay more than $14000 For an EL Ghia, don't pay more than $8000. My EL Ghia 6 Cylinder ![]() - - My EL Ghia V8 ![]() - - My XT ![]()
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I own a EL Ghia and have driven plenty of BA and BF XTs.
I'll take the EL any day thank you very much. Automatic climate control, Leather seats, All four electric windows, 9 speaker 250W premium sound, 3.45 LSD diff and not to mention how much better looking they are. No doubt the BAs drive well, but you'll also find a good EL Ghia is a very well sorted car. XTs are for sales reps, mate. Go the EL.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Geelong
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i'd definatley go the EL Ghia but im biased...love the eseries
i think the base model BA's are too bland. what are you going for, a luxo car or a new car? work that out then you can decide on what car you want |
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bendigo. Victoria
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I'm also very biased as I love the e-series. So I'd be choosing the EL Ghia as well.
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Formally RED XR8
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Mornington, Vic
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Thanks for all of the input everyone, I'm still undecided but I haven't yet driven an EL. I think a bit more research and definately some test drives are the way to go. I'll keep you posted.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne
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only benifet i see in a later model BA over EL would be repairs suspension wise. and just general wear
but other than that a ghia is better than any standard falcon ! ![]()
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Fords are Fords, and i love them all, but i'd take a ba series base model over a 9 - 11 year old ghia any day of the week. The EL would be heaps cheaper to mod and fix, which is good, but they are truly worlds apart.
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if they werent worlds apart i'd be asking why....... it goes without saying that a ba would be much more refined than an EL
its the same as an EL is far more refined than an XF.......thats the difference here. |
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You would want to find the world's best EL Ghia to chose one over a BA IMO
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RedXR8, you did say you didnt want to spend much money. So purchase price would point towards an EL Ghia. However you are going to have to obviously spend money on things down the track. Not that you wouldnt not have to with a BA, just that the EL will require a bit more love from you to keep running nice. If you can afford it, id go a BA XT. If you want to save money and still have a damn nice car, maybe the EL. Thought about an AU Ghia at all ?
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The 'Stihl' Man
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Well I guess I am biased aswell, but Ive driven my far share of BA's and I am telling you now they wont be much chop once a few k's get on them.
My Ghia has hit 240000 and still runs like a charm, shocks etc could do with an update (slowly getting there). Although, I would take a BF XT over an EL Ghia, and if you can find a 5 speed XT!
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I guess the EL's suffer from the same fate, but B series are just a tad newer....
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you cant compare pre release T cars to road going cars al, you of all people should know that |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Get a BA XT and look like every other stoog on the road.
![]() You would look like a total S1CKNT in a pimpin EL Ghia, who wants that cr4p. |
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If it was my money I'd be going the BA, but at the end of the day it's your choice and you have to decide what you like.
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