Pod setup

[XR6_661]

I'll wait till the novelty of having shiny parts under my bonnet wears off then I'll probably do something like that.

[Cameronhayward]

JUZXR8 did you have to modify the airbox to make the pod fit?

[JUZXR8]

the only thing i did was put a small piece of pvc pipe, bout 4 inches worth, through the opening into the top of the airbox and sealed it with some silicon, then u just join your pod onto the pipe inside the box, it all fits in snuggly!

[JC]

Originally Posted by EAadam

Unboxed pods are illegal as they suck hot air into motor which in my theory throws all factory emission output levels out of whack. Dont quote me on that though, thats just my theory. But im 100% that unboxed pods are ILLEGAL. Besides if you are using the pod for more power, its useless if its sucking in hot air. We all know motors perform better with cold dense air.

That'[s the worst theory I've ever heard. Firstly, you state it's illegal because...and then the because turns out to be your opinion. Just because it's your opinion, doesn't make something illegal. What does make something illegal is that it is against the law.

Secondly, all EB onwards 4.0 I6 falcons have an intake temperature sensor, which measures the temp of the air being drawn into the intake, and adjusts mixtures accordingly, thereby keeping emmissions nice and safe (and legal).

Thirdly, where are unboxed pods illegal. Different states have different registration requirements, so to say something is illegal, you need to state what state you are talking about. It would also help to link to the relevant legislation/rules/guidelines to show that you know what you are talking about. For instance, in the ACT, an exposed Pod is totally legal, as long as the pod is secured to the car. Most pods come with some sort of strap to assist in doing this, therefore, these pods are legal in the ACT. Can't find the rego rules to support this, so let's just say I made it up - but without those rules, how would you know if I'm right or wrong?

Here's the NSW RTA possible reason why you may get defected for a Pod Filter:

Noise from filters and valves

Avoid fitting your vehicle with a pod-type air filter. This filter increases engine induction noise and may also increase exhaust gas pollution. Under clause 20 of the Regulation, it is an offence to modify an engine's air intake when it results in an engine noise level exceeding the maximum level specified in the Regulation.

Do not fit blow-off valves that vent directly into the atmosphere. Blow-off valves that vent back into the induction system are allowed.

Waste gate valves are nonstandard pressure release valves for turbochargers. These devices increase the noise from engines and can cause disturbance. If you are fitting these valves, ensure they do not vent directly into the atmosphere but into the exhaust system upstream of any mufflers.


So, the Pod is only illegal if the car's noise exceeds limits - pretty hard to do with just a POD. This is an EPA requirement, BTW, not an RTA/ADR requirement. http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/no...hiclenoise.htm
Back on topic - that setup looks good, but what does the ribbed blue stuff do?

[yahoo189]

Iam just about to get a K&N pod filter, however i was thinking about just getting a pad and putting it in the box. With the POD filter, if ur EA-ED falcon doesnt have abs, you can bore a hole straight down underneath the old airbox. Of cource this isn't great but you get a lot of cool air coming through.

[JC]

Under ADRs, Pod filters are OK for EFI cars, except if they are oiled filter elements (interesting stuff - makes most K&N filters illegal):

TECHNICAL GUIDELINES FOR AIR AND NOISE EMISSION
REQUIREMENTS FOR MODIFIED IN-SERVICE VEHICLES
Information Bulletin
5
(a) Open element or pod type air cleaners on
carburetted vehicles are not permitted.
(b) Dry element pod type air cleaners are
permitted on EFI vehicles. Oiled, oil-soaked or
fluid-treated elements are not permitted. Any
sensors integral to the original system must
be retrofitted to the same approximate
location.

Source: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache...4FILE/1031.pdf

[XR6_661]

Originally Posted by JC

Back on topic - that setup looks good, but what does the ribbed blue stuff do?

It was orginally going to replace the factory black ribbed stuff, which was all good in theory, but it was 3in" OD and so is the factory stuff, and the largest silicon joiners I could find were 3in" OD, which means it wouldn't fit without a lot of stuffing around. So I went and got a 90 bend to join to the straight section...Came up way short of where it should have been, at about the same point as the top securing section for the airbox. So I placed the ribbed section in the middle and adjusted it all to fit.

[jjj]

this is the best intake mod you can do, put an 80mm bellmouth inside the airbox lid. I have tried every pod setup, snorkel etc, and this setup works the best by far.

[Nostalgia]

Thanks for the clarification JC.

[Gohan]

JJJ i was gonna do that to my Airbox lid but my pod is kinda Big and tryin to fit 2 3 inch pipes in2 1 wont go unless i do some mods to 1 of the pipes. my pod came with a Strap and fits nicely on the Factory EF twin snorkle i'll post some pics of my set up

[GT290]

Originally Posted by bentles

its so dumb how can changing to no air box cause the epa to get shitty? whats it do? suck in endangered wildlife or something?

if anyone knows the exact reason feel free to post it in here for me cos i dont get why pods are illegal unless boxed

I hve not read through all the posts so hope this is not repaeted but I think you will find epa will see it as a noise probelm. Induction om my car is very loud and it is in a box but out of the box even louder. I think there would also be other safety issues as mention here previously such as fire I supose.
But getting cought in the first place means you have some how attracted the attention so it self explains its self really.

[bentles]

Originally Posted by GT290

I hve not read through all the posts so hope this is not repaeted but I think you will find epa will see it as a noise probelm. Induction om my car is very loud and it is in a box but out of the box even louder. I think there would also be other safety issues as mention here previously such as fire I supose.
But getting cought in the first place means you have some how attracted the attention so it self explains its self really.

nah its been explained pretty well on here, i havent changed to a pod yet and im not sure if i even will. im still yet to get pulled over once and its approaching 11 months and 10,000kms on my ps in a black lowered car with rims.... doesnt add up i know, but heh im lucky i guess

[GT290]

Originally Posted by bentles

nah its been explained pretty well on here, i havent changed to a pod yet and im not sure if i even will. im still yet to get pulled over once and its approaching 11 months and 10,000kms on my ps in a black lowered car with rims.... doesnt add up i know, but heh im lucky i guess

yeah no worries, I would be just considering the performance advantage or disadvantage with having the pod out in the open sucking hot air from around the engine bay any way. Aways best to have it direct from the out side I would think. Cheers

[bentles]

yeh my mums got a pod in her car and i honestly cant hear it (yes its K&N) and its definatly sucking cold air only as its custom piped to a opening behind the front foglights. im happy with jamex panel filter in standard airbox with XH snorkel for the time being as i dont want to get defected or fined for something i can only just afford to add anyway.

[benny_mac]

i'm pretty (98%) sure pod filters are legal in S.A as long they are securely mounted and they are not oil filled.

[efgiar]

JC.... please tell me were the IAT sensor is on a 4lt falcon? the only thing that i can think of that MIGHT be that is on the BBM's on the inside of the top plenum but i doubt it still.

[335JET]

whats a iat sensor

[bentles]

Originally Posted by BOSS 4LTR

whats a iat sensor

intake air temp sensor

[335JET]

thanks for that, i just had a look at the gregorys repair manual and found it.
to answer your Qu's EFGiar the iat sensor is located just below the throttle body and below the tps sensor and next to the fuel rail.

[Sick EB]

wft everones airfilter connects to a pipe that leads to the top of the engine. mine goes out the bottom of the airbox then into what i think is the throttle body which is on the passenger side of the engine.- dw found the answer.

[335JET]

Originally Posted by Sick EB

wft everones airfilter connects to a pipe that leads to the top of the engine. mine goes out the bottom of the airbox then into what i think is the throttle body which is on the passenger side of the engine.- dw found the answer.

thats cause EA-ED throttle body is in a different spot to the EF/EL.