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Old 26-04-2009, 12:32 PM   #1
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Default Wearing the aussie flag as a cape....

does it annoy you when people do?

This has come up because watching the news last night I was disgusted to see people at Gallipoli with the aussie flag painted on their faces and wearing the flag as a cape as if it were some sort of party. Personally I can't stand people who do this.

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Old 26-04-2009, 12:35 PM   #2
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So you think being wrapped in the flag of the country you love is wrong?? I think it is great to see, to me it doesn't get any more loyal than that. More of it i say.
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Old 26-04-2009, 12:39 PM   #3
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I see no problem with people loving their country and showing it in that manner.

I wasnt that long ago that there was a big movement to change the flag, but now it seems more popular than ever before. So if someone wants to show there pride in Aus by draping a flag over their shoulders,.. than good on 'em
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Old 26-04-2009, 12:46 PM   #4
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At an ANZAC day service I dont see the issue.

What I dont understand is when people parade the flags and capes when its not an Aussie holiday(Australia day, ANZAC day etc). Now I love this country as much as the next person but I dont see the point in promoting the country in the country itself. We're living in Australia you dont have to tell me your Australian.
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Old 26-04-2009, 12:56 PM   #5
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So you think being wrapped in the flag of the country you love is wrong?? I think it is great to see, to me it doesn't get any more loyal than that. More of it i say.
couldnt have said it any better myself
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Old 26-04-2009, 01:33 PM   #6
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I think its great to see.

But when used in the wrong fashion eg. The Cronulla incident, sadly it becomes a symbol of negativity. But this isnt the place to discuss racism, or the cause or effects of such. Sadly, every young man many hundred Km's away suddenly felt it was nessessary to display a flag as a means of support.

Theres a good article in this month's Rolling Stone. The other sad point is, people tend to see waving the flag and having pride in your country as a bad thing especially when it represents a primarily white, western culture. All racist movements and groups that have united under the idea and use the flag as a symbol aside, being patriotic is a good thing.
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Old 26-04-2009, 01:38 PM   #7
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It depends if the person has a shirt on and the haircut isnt a mullet ha ha. i think its ok but yeah it depends on the person lol
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Old 26-04-2009, 01:39 PM   #8
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What a no brainer thread, the Aussie flag should be promoted at any event and across the world, how UnAustralian not to, display it with pride and fly it high.
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Old 26-04-2009, 01:55 PM   #9
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I wear the Aussie flag for a cape, two days of the year, ANZAC day, and on Australia day. Rest of the year it hangs proudly in my house.

Proud to be an Aussie, why not show it off when it matters!
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Old 26-04-2009, 02:32 PM   #10
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Seems I am alone on this. I have no issue in displaying pride for your country but all the people I have ever witnessed (and not just on the news) doing this are the same people who get ****ed and cause trouble. Plus I just feel doing it on Anzac day isn't right.
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I see no problem with people loving their country and showing it in that manner.

I wasnt that long ago that there was a big movement to change the flag, but now it seems more popular than ever before. So if someone wants to show there pride in Aus by draping a flag over their shoulders,.. than good on 'em
agreed! although i also agree with EDfutura25, i've seen many people who are ****ed wearing the flag as a cape do stupid things...
e.g Australia Day at Geelong - young guy, cops smashed him to the ground, got to ride in the back... : )
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Old 26-04-2009, 03:04 PM   #12
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How many of you actually realise that it is a sign of disrespect to allow the flag to touch the ground?
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Old 26-04-2009, 03:06 PM   #13
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How many of you actually realise that it is a sign of disrespect to allow the flag to touch the ground?
So it's a no-go to wear it as a cape if you're short then?
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Old 26-04-2009, 03:08 PM   #14
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So it's a no-go to wear it as a cape if you're short then?
Short people need to buy fridge magnet sized flags
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ALL people should be made to read this before they decide to wear our flag as an article of clothing.

http://www.flagaustnat.asn.au/protocol.php
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Old 26-04-2009, 03:40 PM   #16
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does it annoy you when people do?

This has come up because watching the news last night I was disgusted to see people at Gallipoli with the aussie flag painted on their faces and wearing the flag as a cape as if it were some sort of party. Personally I can't stand people who do this.
I love to see Aussies flying the Australian flag in public places.

Personally I can't stand people who whinge about proud young (or old, for that matter) Aussies who wrap themselves, wear or paint the Australian flag on themselves.

Perhaps Australia isn't the right country for you to be living in if you are offended by this type of patriotism if you are offended. I have heard that there are few ships with empty backloads heading towards Indonesia!!

Get over it.
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Seems I am alone on this. I have no issue in displaying pride for your country but all the people I have ever witnessed (and not just on the news) doing this are the same people who get ****ed and cause trouble. Plus I just feel doing it on Anzac day isn't right.
I've seen plenty, in fact far more, people ****ed and behaving badly that aren't wearing the flag, so therefore your logic is flawed........
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I've seen plenty, in fact far more, people ****ed and behaving badly that aren't wearing the flag, so therefore your logic is flawed........
What? That made no sense whatsoever.
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Old 26-04-2009, 03:47 PM   #19
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To me it's fine under the right circumstances worn by mature people.
When it's worn by dumbass, immature, excessively drunk, shirtless bogans on a day that has nothing to do with Australia or it's history, then it becomes disrespectful and uncalled for.

You can tell whether someone is bearing the flag for true pride or just to be loud and seek attention, the difference between the two is clear.
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Old 26-04-2009, 04:03 PM   #20
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ALL people should be made to read this before they decide to wear our flag as an article of clothing.

http://www.flagaustnat.asn.au/protocol.php
I must be having my Dyslexic day as I couldn't find any reference to wearing it as a cape.
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Old 26-04-2009, 04:06 PM   #21
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I must be having my Dyslexic day as I couldn't find any reference to wearing it as a cape.
it stated that the flag shouldn't touch the ground, in this case, whilst being worn as a cape.
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Good link Russell.....
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Old 26-04-2009, 04:56 PM   #23
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I see wearing the flag as a cape as a sign of yobbo'ism. The flag is a sacred part of Australia, and there are rules governing it use which RG has alluded to.
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I dont think there is anything wrong with flying the flag high and proud plenty have given there life for all that it represents, but draping it around your neck,dragging it along the ground then getting trashed still wearing it, I think is TOTALLY DISRESPECTFUL.
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Can you actually get fined or something if it does touch the ground? That link isn't a "law" is it? Its more just like an ethical standard or something?
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Can you actually get fined or something if it does touch the ground? That link isn't a "law" is it? Its more just like an ethical standard or something?
ethical standard most likely, unless someone does it at a certain time/place/event...
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I know a Police Station in Syndey that has scored a number of fines (quite large)

1st offence, Flying the flag during rain

2nd Flying the flag in darkness

3rd Draping flag on ground during removal, protocol officer was present for this.
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it stated that the flag shouldn't touch the ground, in this case, whilst being worn as a cape.
Ah ok. But if it never touched the ground it would be ok then.

Either that or our Olympic gold medalists were not told of the protocol
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Probably not told of the protocol, or the Olympic bosses just turned a blind eye for celebration purposes
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I wore it on my shoulders on Australia day, i felt proud. But i never let it touch the ground.
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