Superlows In EL's

[Yagz]

Hi guys.

I have pedders sportryder springs all round, with standard shocks in the back and pedders shocks in the front..

I'm happy with the level at the front, but the rear sits a bit high.. I want to get superlow springs for the rear, but i'm not sure if they will be lower..

Anyone had any experience with pedders shocks and superlows? Which is lower? Will it sit lower with superlows instead of pedders? Will the ride quality be bad with standard XR8 shocks with the superlow springs?

Cheers,
Yagz

[Thanatos]

The pedders shocks only make a difference to the height at the front.

It *should* sit lower with super lows in the back, but as has been said in the other thread, the super lows seem to vary greatly from car to car.


I can't really comment on ride quality, though. My guess is it will be quite soft and comfortable. As long as it's not too soft...

[JADED6]

Fill it with fuel to lower passenger side, spare wheel to lower drivers side.

[Aaron_EF8]

I've been in one car with Sportsryder's in the back, and the ride was so shit, it was like the shocks were siezed. Apparently it gets worse with people in the back too. The guy ended up fitting Comfort Ryder shocks.

I've heard more than one story confirming this too.

[Thanatos]

Hmm, that's interesting...

I've never had any complaints about how my car rides (quite the opposite in fact!).

Maybe some of the people who have ridden in the back of my car could comment?

[niko]

u 100% they superlow? and surely by now they've "relaxed" and are at there normal height. i think shocker has something to do with it, screwed ones will sit lower but better ones will sit higher

[Stevo]

Mate, i have Standard shocks, and superlows.. i cant WAIT to get my new shocks for the rear, as the ride is terrible.

Handles like a feckin dream, but the ride is crap. (I am trying to get close to the Standard EL GHIA ride , with going as low as I can , Difficult i know, but this is what i demand) . I have taken out the rear superlows at the moment, as the car is going back for some warranty work. But within the next few weeks i hope to get some new shocks for the rear.

As for ride hight with standard shocks, you saw how low mine sits at the rear Depending on what shocks i go for the rear, it probably wont sit as low as it does at the moment, but that dosnt worry me. Better off having a nicer ride. (Will still be dumped tho :P ) "GOTTA BE!"

I have superlows in the front and standard shocks in the front as well, and yours sits lower @ the front. So id say pedders shocks with superlows would be pretty good!

[Stevo]

So yeah, ive been hoping no one spots the car around at the moment, as its sitting at the same hight as when i bought it. (Tickford springs, standard shocks)

Ive just been waiting for someone to say, "I spoted this yesterday, looks much lower in the photos tho" hehe :

[EFFalcon]

Get LPG or a big boot install ;)

[Psycho Chicken]

Originally Posted by Thanatos

Hmm, that's interesting...

I've never had any complaints about how my car rides (quite the opposite in fact!).

Maybe some of the people who have ridden in the back of my car could comment?

Couldn't tell you, too busy trying to stay in the seat when you corner.

[EFFalcon]

Originally Posted by Thanatos

Hmm, that's interesting...

I've never had any complaints about how my car rides (quite the opposite in fact!).

Maybe some of the people who have ridden in the back of my car could comment?

well... when the mud flaps aint scraping :P
seemed alright to me, deffinately not uncomfortable...
my gf doesn't even remember ;)

[Psycho Chicken]

My GF remembers hahahahaha

God I thought she screamed like a bitch in my car!!

You better close this thread before Karl gets in here and starts making jokes about our GF's getting rides in the back of Dave's car.

[oneredED]

Originally Posted by Thanatos

I've never had any complaints about how my car rides (quite the opposite in fact!).

Maybe some of the people who have ridden in the back of my car could comment?

Seemed good as to me. Waaay better than my bouncy-castle ED... Although like Rob said, i was too busy holding on, and that was before you went nuts on the 3.9...

[Thanatos]

Cheers for the comments guys ;)

I didn't realise how many of people's gf's i've had in the back seat. Even made rob's gf scream! :P lmao!

Aaron, maybe something else was stuffed on the rear of that car or something?

[Kenaz]

Originally Posted by Stevo

Mate, i have Standard shocks, and superlows.. i cant WAIT to get my new shocks for the rear, as the ride is terrible.

Handles like a feckin dream, but the ride is crap. (I am trying to get close to the Standard EL GHIA ride , with going as low as I can , Difficult i know, but this is what i demand) .

Interesting. I've got the same car and same setup (EL Ghia 5l, superlows and standard shocks) and my ride is really good. It's hardly any different to when it was standard

[XRated]

Originally Posted by Thanatos

Cheers for the comments guys ;)

I didn't realise how many of people's gf's i've had in the back seat. Even made rob's gf scream! :P lmao!

Aaron, maybe something else was stuffed on the rear of that car or something?

You sly dog you! LMAO!! Even my girlfriend has been in the back of your car hahahhaa!!!!!!

[Stevo]

Originally Posted by Kenaz

Interesting. I've got the same car and same setup (EL Ghia 5l, superlows and standard shocks) and my ride is really good. It's hardly any different to when it was standard

Nah, mine bounces like a biatch. Im pretty dam picky when it comes to shit like that. But try having ppl in the back, they dam near need helmuts.

[niko]

i dumped my ea bout 6months ago now, and wen ppl see it all i hear is "fuk have u dumped that again?", "shit man that looks lower than last time"

im like thinkin "ahuh ye wat the nah man, hehe laugh to myself"
answer= ye man chopped em and ppl beleive me ahahhaha

[EL_futuraistic]

Yeah, I have an EL. I fitted sports rider 30mm lowered front struts and factory springs in the front, but went for comfort rider in the back and 45mm lowered springs. It rides nicely, much better than factory.. im waiting til i fit my wheels b4 i lower any more.

The only thing to watch with soft shocks, and lowered springs is that when you load the car up you may end up on the bump stops.

[Aaron_EF8]

Cheers for the comments guys

I didn't realise how many of people's gf's i've had in the back seat. Even made rob's gf scream! lmao!

Aaron, maybe something else was stuffed on the rear of that car or something?

It's quite possible, or it may have had Pedders springs, not King Springs in it.

My car doesn't ride too well, although its better with Monroe GT Gas shocks now. Handling is OK, but it still understeers more than i'd like, and gets quite bad rear steer at times. If I bounce on the towbar of my car, it goes down really easily about an inch, then the spring rate either firms right up, or it hits the bumpstops.

Does anyone here know if a company makes off the shelf lowered springs for the rear of Falcons that aren't variable rate?? I reckon that would help with the ride of most Falcons on here.

[EL_futuraistic]

Yeah, my EL understeers quite badly. I fitted Dunlop 300e tyres, which have helped a lot both dry and wet.
Did you guys fit front camber kit when you lowered your fords??

I didnt when i lowered mine, although I was told if i go lower will have to.
(only 30mm lwr at front currently)

You make an interesting point Aaron re the springs. I will do some searching.

[EL_futuraistic]

Lovells have a great .pdf catalogue. It gives a full run down on spirngs, rates, etc. They make linear and variable rat springs, depending on vehicle application.

www.lovells.com.au

[oneredED]

I've got the camber kit in (definately neccessary), but i think it needs adjusting, as you can see the massive amount of camber without even measuring it...

I was recently told that due to the rear of the car being lower than front, my castor will be up shit creek. Even if it is level with the front, that's not the angle that the factory intended the car to sit at, and so it's not just my camber that's out atm, but the castor as well. Anyone know if that's the case?

[galapogos01]

i have a pair of superlows from my EF that were too low with the gas tank and stereo install if youre after a set yagz. give us a hoy.

i have superlows in the front, lows in the rear, and it still sits lower in the back than the front. i need shocks with lower spring seats, but the pedders ones are too expensive...

[EFFalcon]

i remember when we put the superlows in ur car Jase ;)
the rear sat fantastic haha...
if u do get pedders front struts... be careful.. u shoulda seen Rmyers car with Superlows and pedders lowered struts :o

[FRDXR6]

Originally Posted by EFFalcon

i remember when we put the superlows in ur car Jase ;)
the rear sat fantastic haha...
if u do get pedders front struts... be careful.. u shoulda seen Rmyers car with Superlows and pedders lowered struts :o

Do you mean the front was too low?

[galapogos01]

hmm.. the front needs to come down 20mm or so.. 2cm.. i dont want anything too rediculous.. we'll see, price wise, i think they wanted somethjing like $120 a strut. **** that, i just put munroe gt's in anyway...

[Psycho Chicken]

My front guards rub with Pedders shortened shocks, King lows and 225's.

[EL_futuraistic]

Yeah i got the lowered front struts, paid bout $250 each from memory. But if i want to go lower im not sure how, as if i put in 30mm springs it will then be 60mm lower, which when i fit the 17"s will definately scrape.