Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-08-2009, 07:54 AM   #1
buggerlugs
If it ain't broke........
Donating Member1
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
Posts: 18,779
Default Economical 4 cylinder Automatic

Bought the daughter a 2004 Lancer 2 litre Automatic for her first car 12 months ago. She has an auto licence. Car has been great but seems to really like a drink. Daughter does a lot of k's. Any suggestions on another model that is economical ???

__________________
Visitors welcome
Relatives by appointment only
buggerlugs is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 05-08-2009, 09:45 AM   #2
ebxr8240
Performance moderator
 
ebxr8240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: St Clair..N.S.W
Posts: 14,875
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Always willing to help out with technical advice. 
Default

Cannot beat Mazda imo..
I guess the diesel Mondeo is too $$$. They have more get up and go than you think being diesel..http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/wheels/s...25739A0000F4E1
Being auto ?? Driving style can do it also..
Auto's tend to kick down and rev in lower gears if your heavy on throttle in stop go traffic...
__________________
Real cars are not driven by front wheels,real cars lift them!!...
BABYS ARE BOTTLE FED, REAL MEN GET BLOWN.
Don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic!
Dart 330ci block turbo black pearl EBXR8 482 rwkw..
Daily driver GTE FG..
Projects http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=107711
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...8+turbo&page=4
ebxr8240 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 05-08-2009, 04:49 PM   #3
ea90gl
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
ea90gl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Adelaide SA
Posts: 1,255
Default

Thats strange, is everything up to scratch on the lancer you have? Plugs, leads, air + fuel filters etc etc. Consumption obviously depends on driving style, if she has a heavy foot it will definately use noticeably more fuel being a 4 cyl auto. City driving will also decrease economy, Im sure you know all this. my fiance has an 06 auto Lancer and it really has squat downlow, to get going you have to give it more than you'd think. On the highways they are great, still good in the city but I was expecting it to be a little better on fuel
ea90gl is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 05-08-2009, 04:59 PM   #4
buggerlugs
If it ain't broke........
Donating Member1
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
Posts: 18,779
Default

Yep, recently had a full service, your right, it does take a bit to get it going down low....
__________________
Visitors welcome
Relatives by appointment only
buggerlugs is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 05-08-2009, 07:06 PM   #5
bok1
Starter Motor
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 17
Default

bought my wife a mazda 2 about 6 months ago and it is a great little car.hanldes well and great on economy.abs and airbags as well.


phil
bok1 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 05-08-2009, 07:10 PM   #6
GasoLane
Former BTIKD
Donating Member2
 
GasoLane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sunny Downtown Wagga Wagga. NSW.
Posts: 53,197
Default

Put it on Gas.
__________________
Dying at your job is natures way of saying that you're in the wrong line of work.
GasoLane is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 05-08-2009, 07:18 PM   #7
Buzz Box
Wheel Wally
 
Buzz Box's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ballarat
Posts: 883
Default

Well our Fairmont is cheaper to run than the Focus.

I think its the 4cyl's because you need to kick them in the guts to go anywhere and to overtake etc.

P.S. I would NEVER buy another 4cyl again
__________________
Currently:
2006 Ford Fairmont Ghia BF
1999 Land Rover Discovery Series II - "Thomas The Tank"

Previously:
2009 Ford Focus - "The Bubble Car"
2002 Ford Futura Wagon - "The Big White Wagon"
1996 Ford Falcon - "Ophelia"
1975 Jaguar XJ6 - "The Beast"

Last edited by Buzz Box; 05-08-2009 at 07:18 PM. Reason: P.S.
Buzz Box is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 06-08-2009, 07:57 AM   #8
Unco
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Unco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Assens, Denmark
Posts: 622
Default

what exactly is your definition of 'likes a drink'? it might help if you actually post the fuel efficiency that you/your daughter are getting. e.g. 5L/100Km? 10L/100Km? 20L/100Km? is it city or highway driving?
Unco is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 06-08-2009, 08:48 AM   #9
matty88
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 194
Default

Hyundai Getz, my bro has one and geta round 8l/100km in the city
matty88 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 06-08-2009, 09:03 AM   #10
sgt_doofey
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
sgt_doofey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Barossa Valley, South Australia
Posts: 3,381
Default

Turbo Diesel for the win. We average about 6L/100kms in the 307, and it aint a small or light car either.
__________________
Cheers,
Sam.
sgt_doofey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 06-08-2009, 09:19 AM   #11
bathurst77
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,098
Default

I think fuel economy is over rated.
Given the costs of owning a car, purchase price, rego, insurance, tyres, servicing, perhaps interest probably add up to over 100 per week, the petrol saving becomes pretty minor.

Look at it this way.
Lets say petrol costs $1.25 a litre and the average driver does 20,000 km a year (385 km a week).

IF your car does 11litres/100km and petrol is $1.25 a litre thats $2,750 for 20,000km. thats $53 a week on petrol.

IF your car does 10l/100km thats $2,500 or $48 per week

IF your car does 8l/100km (eg matty) thats $2,000, $38.50 a week.


Going from a 6 cyl falcon or similar that does 11 litres 100km to a getz or somethign that does 8s saves about $13.50 a week in fuel. Ok so petrol will cost more sometimes and you may do a few more km than 20,000km a year so lets call it about $20 a week (a big stretch from $13.50)

For that $20.00, you are sacrificing, space, comfort, power, cruising ability, noise, smoothness, safety, long termm robustness etc. How will reliability, servicing costs etc holdup when the car gets higher km?

And if, as you say, your daughters car is a 4 cyl now, how much more can you save by trying to get an even less thirsty one? if its doing 8s or 9s now and you get one that does 7s or better (would have to be a super econo tin box), you may save another $5 a week if you lucky. Doesnt seem worth it to put her in a flimsy tin box.

If my daughter was dong lots of km I woudl happily pay the $15 or so to put her in a big car in case she crashed. Prob get it back on reliability and repair costs.
(Or get a used LPG Falcon, best of both worlds?)

Last edited by bathurst77; 06-08-2009 at 09:29 AM.
bathurst77 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 06-08-2009, 10:03 AM   #12
ebxr8240
Performance moderator
 
ebxr8240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: St Clair..N.S.W
Posts: 14,875
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Always willing to help out with technical advice. 
Default

Umm ?? Maybe daughter is holding the old man up for some $$ ,,, Lol...
Running a car is not cheap and putting petrol in them is part of the deal..
Like paying rent, mortgage etc.. The young one's have to get used to it...
__________________
Real cars are not driven by front wheels,real cars lift them!!...
BABYS ARE BOTTLE FED, REAL MEN GET BLOWN.
Don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic!
Dart 330ci block turbo black pearl EBXR8 482 rwkw..
Daily driver GTE FG..
Projects http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=107711
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...8+turbo&page=4
ebxr8240 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 06-08-2009, 10:10 AM   #13
cosmo20btt
Fordaholic
 
cosmo20btt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 884
Default

My Mrs had the same lancer auto as a company car, it would not pull the skin off a rice pudding & it was good thing the company was paying the petrol bills as it was a thirsty little bugger as well. Does not compare with the 3 she has now.
cosmo20btt is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 06-08-2009, 10:20 AM   #14
Mr Hardware
Flairs - Truckers Delight
 
Mr Hardware's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane Northside Likes: Opposite Lock
Posts: 5,731
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: The excellent how to on LPG jet cleaning. 
Default

2004 Lancer 2 litre Automatic on Gas


Quote:
P.S. I would NEVER buy another 4cyl again
4cyl = False Economy.
My parents camry does 13.5L/100klms. Case closed.
__________________
Current: Silhouette Black 2007 SY Ford Territory TX RWD 7-seater "Black Banger"
2006-2016: Regency Red 2000 AUII Ford Falcon Forte Automatic Sedan Tickford LPG "Millennium Falcon"
Mr Hardware is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 06-08-2009, 10:31 AM   #15
EDManual
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
EDManual's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,710
Default

Auto 4 cylinder cars are always thirsty. Usually around 2 litres per hundred worse than a manual.
EDManual is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 06-08-2009, 12:42 PM   #16
The Snout
Regular Member
 
The Snout's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 259
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bathurst77
I think fuel economy is over rated.
Given the costs of owning a car, purchase price, rego, insurance, tyres, servicing, perhaps interest probably add up to over 100 per week, the petrol saving becomes pretty minor.

Look at it this way.
Lets say petrol costs $1.25 a litre and the average driver does 20,000 km a year (385 km a week).

IF your car does 11litres/100km and petrol is $1.25 a litre thats $2,750 for 20,000km. thats $53 a week on petrol.

IF your car does 10l/100km thats $2,500 or $48 per week

IF your car does 8l/100km (eg matty) thats $2,000, $38.50 a week.


Going from a 6 cyl falcon or similar that does 11 litres 100km to a getz or somethign that does 8s saves about $13.50 a week in fuel. Ok so petrol will cost more sometimes and you may do a few more km than 20,000km a year so lets call it about $20 a week (a big stretch from $13.50)

For that $20.00, you are sacrificing, space, comfort, power, cruising ability, noise, smoothness, safety, long termm robustness etc. How will reliability, servicing costs etc holdup when the car gets higher km?

And if, as you say, your daughters car is a 4 cyl now, how much more can you save by trying to get an even less thirsty one? if its doing 8s or 9s now and you get one that does 7s or better (would have to be a super econo tin box), you may save another $5 a week if you lucky. Doesnt seem worth it to put her in a flimsy tin box.

If my daughter was dong lots of km I woudl happily pay the $15 or so to put her in a big car in case she crashed. Prob get it back on reliability and repair costs.
(Or get a used LPG Falcon, best of both worlds?)
Yep.

Wheels Mag did an article on this from memory a few years back and the price of the car itself is by far the biggest influence. If you really want to save money, buy a cheaper priced car.
The Snout is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 06-08-2009, 12:47 PM   #17
Road_Warrior
Pity the fool
 
Road_Warrior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wait Awhile
Posts: 8,997
Default

After driving an automatic 2007 Corolla around all last week and seeing it rev at 3000 rpm at 100 on the freeway, there is no way I'll be going from a full size car to something like that.
Road_Warrior is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 06-08-2009, 01:11 PM   #18
sgt_doofey
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
sgt_doofey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Barossa Valley, South Australia
Posts: 3,381
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Snout
If you really want to save money, buy a cheaper priced car.
Probably more importantly, buy one that is a few years old and has already taken the depreciation hit. That would be one of the biggest money savers.
__________________
Cheers,
Sam.
sgt_doofey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 02:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL