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Old 03-12-2009, 10:01 PM   #31
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I really don't know what our society is comming to when people like this are let off, all it does is encourage them that they are above the law and can do as they please.
It really disheartens me to hear that thing's like this even happen.

I have just come back from a walk with my wife and our two little dog's from the peir here at Apollo Bay,
On the way back there were two girl's that just come onto the beach with their two big Lab dog's, (no leash's), anyway as we approached them I was weary that their dog's would see us and attack,
And yes they did, they started to run toward's us and agresively.
we didn't have much time to grab our dog's as I was watching the others and what they would do, but we did grab them and I sank the boot into these dog's a few time's while holding my little pup.
They still kept attacking us, so I still kept kicking them, untill they retreated.
But all the time the owner's were just walking by and yelling at their dog's to come back.
I could see this was all about to happen as soon as we got close to them, why they wern't on chain's like our's were, really annoyed me, but it all come's down to the type of people today.
No respect for anything.
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Old 04-12-2009, 01:47 AM   #32
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I think I might go and rob a bank and when I'm caught, claim I was raped by several of my teachers, the priest at the local church and as a result am suffering from post-traumatic stress, and have developed a drug and alcohol problem....and I'll get off!

Now, I'm not trivialising the issues above (so please don't can me), but it annoys me when the above are used as a cop-out for people who have no regard for others.

The mother was not drinking at the time...she's just a bathering toadie idiot who has no respect for others, and has no idea how to raise a responsible child.

As harsh as it sounds, it is in the best interest of the child to be taken away from the parent to be brought up in a responsible household where bad deeds are punished.

Society is falling into a sinkhole due to the stupidity of our judicial system.

I actually want to leave the country, because there is too much freedom for criminals, while the victims are left behind, unless it's a heartstring story like Corey (the blink kid who is bullied at school), where rightfully his case is pushed further due to the unreasonable inactivity of the school in dealing with an issue.

THe media play a larger part in justice than the courts. It's crap.

Time to start a posse?
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i dont know if that was meant to be a joke but you just had me in stitches
what a funny remark!
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What a Joke... Way to set an example for your daughter mommy dearest....
Should be punished harder than this....
.......If it was a Father that was encouraging , im sure a jail sentenced would have been imposed, alcoholic or not.... seems that sometimes we give to much leniency towards care givers ....not that this halfwit clown woman is much of a caregiver....
And yes i dont know her and i dont know her situation...but i know many in bad situations..yet they still manage to hold some dignity and try and teach their children some decent values....
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Old 04-12-2009, 09:15 AM   #35
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Its a terrible thing to have happened to one of our most vunerable people in society.

Im sorry for puting up such a thread. It is aparent there is an underclass of scum that live of welfare and contribute nothing to society.

Bogans breed bogans. Working as a Solicitor and dealing with a lot of Legal Aid matters, there are such people just float through life, as we all here work / study hard to achieve things in life.

I often sit in my office speaking with a Legal Aid funded client and ask questions on what is going on with their lives? Job prospects? Study? Effort in looking for work? How you feel after doing a criminal act?

Most of these questions fall on deaf ears and i always see them in and out of court rooms, breaching bonds and such.


I can only imagine what my mother would have done to me if i acted in such a manner. Its beond comprehension to even begin to imagine her egging me on to hurt a disabled girl.

As GT John has said, its all about values. Not teaching your child values is totally unacceptable.
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There is way too much generalizing thru this thread, its hard to even distinguish between the legitimate posts and the rest of the garbage in here. Some people just need to go back and objectively re-read their posts and consider the possibility that what was written was just ridiculous.

It's not iPods, Brinteny Spears, Big Brother, Bogans, Gen X,Y,Z,Q,R or W, it's one idiot and her kid that did something morally and legally wrong. You can't just say that anybody that's born in a particular era and watched reality TV is a delinquent.
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Bogans should be castrated at birth.

There I said it.
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Place them in the disability wing of a hospital or nursing home for 3 months doing weekend work so they can see just what those with a disability go through each day. Might open their eyes a little
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There are two 'generations' of Gen Y anyway.

Some grew up with Britney Spears, reality TV/Big Brother/Idol and iPods. They are selfish, arrogant young people who have only just acquired legal independence and due to a lack of morals and values, think they're individually the best and most important person ever, and think everybody else is the problem.

Some born in the early 80s despise the other generation of Gen Ys and have parents who were born during or just after World War II and have been taught manners and courtesy, and hate reality TV, iPods and Britney Spears.
I grew up on a little show called, "Sesame Street", I listened to Peter Combe as a kid (I washed my face in Orange Juice - not dress like a skank) on a cassette player (CDs were not around), and entertainment was playing cricket or hide and seek with my brothers.

In 10 years a 'generation' changed a hell of a lot...

So while Gen Y can fairly be interpreted as shits, a lot of us aren't.
I consider myself a Gen X'er, although I am technically a Y.
I disagree with ' generation y ' or at least disagree with the who and what makes you gen y. I think most of generation y that are over 25 would indentify alot more with generation x. If it came primarily down to pop culture, which apparently it does according to media and those who set the rules.

Britney Spears, Ipods and reality television, these are reflections and realities of modern life rather key points to define a generation, and are really just the advancements from Generation X's Madonna, Walkmans/Discmans and Crash/MTV type television of the 1990s.

Generational gabs should be defined by values and beliefs of those in a certain age bracket at say a snap shot in time. Defined by those between the ages of their early to mid 20s to their mid 30s over a 10-15 year period. Rather than being influenced by that of erratic and really, just typical 13-18 year old kids.

The true definition of generation y wont be defined till the majority of the tail end are over the age of 20-25.
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kids these days just have no idea how the world outside their mobile phones works. back in the day you could call in to mcdonalds on the way from one job site to another and grab a big mac and chocolate shake in about 5 mins. the burgers were lined up like soliders waiting to head into battle. now days the kids running these places take forever to make the simplest burger while they chat amongst themselves about chinese minibikes and god help you if theres a yuppy infront of you ordering some vegan wrap that will confuse the kid for another 15 mins while i stand there dreaming of sending all these kids into national service
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I think its a bit much to discredit an entire generation based on the actions of teenagers. If that were true, every one thats part of Generation X is nothing more than a lazy, dirty slacker wearing a Nirvana shirt.

I think the notion that " kids these days " is summing up the entire debate. Those prior to WWII looked down on the Baby Boomer generation for its radical change in values, The Boomers looked down on Generation X as slackers and bums, while Gen X sees Gen Y as violent, arrogant and ignorant idiots.
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She can receive treatment for alcoholism in prison.
It's called cold turkey.
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It is the nature of our legal system being based upon what has come before, it is inevitable that it will get watered down over time. As each new precedent sets a lower bar for the next case.

Our legal system should be based upon the impact and effects of the victim/s, and not on the background/upbringing, problems of the perpetrator, that needs to be used for rehabilitation not accountability.

There has always been these type of people around, it is not generation based (unlike quality of service), we just hear about it more and faster now.
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Place them in the disability wing of a hospital or nursing home for 3 months doing weekend work so they can see just what those with a disability go through each day. Might open their eyes a little

Noble, but I think it would be lost on these troglodytes.
They'd probably stand there and laugh all day long.

As for Gen Y and maccas, go there and order a big mac and a large coke; your order will come to $5.95. Then, pay with a $20.00 note and a $1.00 coin, then sit back and watch the fun begin.
They're calling managers and other staff for help; it's hilarious.
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This idiotic bit#h should have been left in the room with some really nice people and had the beejesus flogged out of her. But no, the wowsers in society figure we can't dish out this sort of punishment anymore because it's inhumane to this lowlive.


In this instance, the lowlive bit#h have been seen to be the victim, therefore be more leniant on them in the court room. Don't worry about the poor old disabled person, that had no chance to begin with, regardless if the female was pi$$ed or on drugs.

What I really like to hear about is if one of the disabled persons relatives got hold of this lowlife and give her what for and see how the courts treat them. They'd probably get 5 years minimum. That's generally how the system works isn't it?

I'll move off topic for a little bit here, to do with how the lovely justice system works.

My eldest brother was killed a few years ago now by a female using a 12 gauge. (Nice weapon of choice hey), while he was pi$$ed asleep in his car.

This particular female had been carrying this lovely piece around in her boot or a while, waiting for an opportunity.

During the trial, she managed to have the charges reduced to manslaughter with diminished responsibilities. The argument for them was, she was intimidated by him. (There is more to it, but that was the basis and my brother never laid a hand on her)

End result. She gets 5 years, with 12 months minimum.

So my query is, how can someone be a threat, when they're pi$$ed and asleep? Why would this thing (that's how I class this female) carry around a 12 gauge for a while and then claim she was intimidated by him?

Lovely justice system hey?

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friend of mine years ago,(single workin mother 3 kids no government hand outs),had her car stolen and burnt by one of the local idiots,now the cops didnt/couldnt/or wont to do anything,so some of the local LADS paid this fellow a visit,took him for a liitle ride out to the bush and gave him one hell of a hidin(dont condone violence),lets say he helped the lady to buy a new (used)car and never stepped out of line again
the government takes the control of punishing our kids away ,then when they (the feral kids)run a muck the government blames the parents
the good ole baby bonus !!!!!! wait and see how many feral/outa control kids there will be in another 15 years !!!!!
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