Ford V6 – first car to break 300 hp and over 30 mpg

[Auslandau]

Good news happening in the states on the V6 ...... so what implications, if any would this have on the I6. Seems that the States are very happy with the results they are achieving.

Ford has announced the official fuel economy numbers for the 2011 Mustang V6, and in doing so, stakes a claim to producing the world’s first car to produce over 300 horsepower while also achieving over 30 miles per gallon (EPA). The 2011 Mustang 3.7-liter V6 with six-speed automatic is officially rated at 305 hp and 31 highway miles per gallon.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2011-for...er-30-mpg.html



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[Burnout]

That's 240kw & 7.5 L/100km - very good numbers.

[InfernoSR]

would give the I6 a run for its money... time to develop it a bit further me thinks...

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Burnout

That's 240kw & 7.5 L/100km - very good numbers.

What does a 2011 V6 Mustang weigh? Even if the Falcon did come in at around 100kg more (at a guess) that would still get an economy figure of high 7's, low 8's per 100.

Those output / economy numbers are amazing.

[The G6ET Spot]

Originally Posted by InfernoSR

would give the I6 a run for its money... time to develop it a bit further me thinks...

It would do more than give it a run for its money. It would make it look antiquated.

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

What does a 2011 V6 Mustang weigh? Even if the Falcon did come in at around 100kg more (at a guess) that would still get an economy figure of high 7's, low 8's per 100.

Those output / economy numbers are amazing.

Don't forget that the V6 is an all alloy block so there would be a weight saving so I don't think that there would be 100kgs in it. Mustang with the V6 comes in at 1600kgs, I know taht my G6ET comes in at 1745kg. So there would be a fair bit of weight shed with the alloy motor etc. Which would make them very close.

All they have to do is commit to bringing it here.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Burnout

That's 240kw & 7.5 L/100km - very good numbers.

227 kw actually.

[Dr Smith]

You would also need to see how our method for determining official fuel consumption figures compares the the US method.

[Olympus]

Interesting numbers, but how much torque does it produce?

[SpoolMan]

Originally Posted by Olympus

how much torque does it produce?

I was looking for the same thing.
I did read a great statement in another thread, H/P sells cars but torque wins races.

[Gaz]

that's the highway figure too guys..

[FPV GTHO]

Torque is over 370nm IIRC. The engine performs roughly the same as Coyote litre for litre.

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by FPV GTHO

Torque is over 370nm IIRC. The engine performs roughly the same as Coyote litre for litre.

Which makes sense seeing they'd both be using similar technology.

Common sense says the writing is on the wall....

[csv8]

Makes SIDI look sick...

[flappist]

Maybe a little bit of SIDI like marketing spin....

Originally Posted by further down the same article

Fuel economy figures broken down

Both the manual and automatic Mustang will achieve a rating of 19 city mpg, for a combined rating of 24.5 mpg for the manual and 25 mpg for the automatic. Ford says that it was able to achieve these historic numbers through a combination of external aerodynamic changes to the vehicle, in addition to significant efforts to optimize efficiency within the engine and the rest of the drivetrain.

Which makes it round about the same fuel economy as a datto with slightly less power.

[mik]

the mustang might be a little better aerodynamicly too, there would`nt be much in it between the i6 and new v6, except the barra is still a torque monster.

[Joe5619]

how much is 25mpg is our terms???

[Wally]

Ford Media: The Mustang’s official EPA ratings – completed this week – certify that coupe models equipped with the 305-hp 3.7-liter V-6 and available six-speed automatic transmission achieve 31 mpg on the highway and 19 mpg in the city. The standard six-speed manual transmission is rated at 29 mpg on the highway and 19 mpg in the city

25 auto and 24 manual. (9.41/9.8)
227kW/380Nm
1700kg

http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2...g_V6_Specs.pdf

Comparison

Cadillac 3.6l Premium
AWD
227kW/370Nm
1751kg

(18/27 mpg) 13.1/8.7 = 10.9

[boris]

9.41 and 9.8 aren't that that great! i6 gets 9.9 already. We will see come fg2.

[Chopped]

Will it be de-tuned when it gets here ? (say 210-215kw range)

[Boosh Brus]

Am I missing something here?
"Ford’s confirmation of an EPA-rated 31 highway mpg rating to go along with the 305 horsepower rating makes the 2011 Mustang the most fuel efficient car with over 300 hp ever produced. "

A Mustang with 224kw and a highway fuel use of 7.6 liters per 100 kilometers
A BMW 550i has 270kw with highway fuel use of 7.2 liters per 100 kilometers

Its still impressive but not ground breaking.

[Joe5619]

Originally Posted by boris

9.41 and 9.8 aren't that that great! i6 gets 9.9 already. We will see come fg2.

That is what I was thinking..

Really does go to show how good the I6 is & how good Ford AUST has done on a limilted budget...

[Wally]

Originally Posted by Boosh Brus

Am I missing something here?
"Ford’s confirmation of an EPA-rated 31 highway mpg rating to go along with the 305 horsepower rating makes the 2011 Mustang the most fuel efficient car with over 300 hp ever produced. "

A Mustang with 224kw and a highway fuel use of 7.6 liters per 100 kilometers
A BMW 550i has 270kw with highway fuel use of 7.2 liters per 100 kilometers

Its still impressive but not ground breaking.

EPA lists the 550i at 15/23 auto 15/22 manual

[Road_Warrior]

How do you do the conversion from MPG to L/100? 19MPG doesn't sound that ground breaking.

[Boosh Brus]

Originally Posted by Wally

EPA lists the 550i at 15/23 auto 15/22 manual

Fair enough the EPA must have a thirsty test.

[Boosh Brus]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

How do you do the conversion from MPG to L/100? 19MPG doesn't sound that ground breaking.

There is an online converter here: http://calculator-converter.com/l_10...per_100_km.php

[Jondalar]

That's a combined figure of 10.6 auto, not that impressive unless their test is harsher than ours.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by Boosh Brus

There is an online converter here: http://calculator-converter.com/l_10...per_100_km.php

According to that it works out at 12.38L/100klm - that's pretty ordinary for a city cycle. Especially for a lighter car than the Falcon with more power! But it's all about the torques...

[jamesson1980]

Originally Posted by Burnout

That's 240kw & 7.5 L/100km - very good numbers.

I love the current I6.. I dunno how the V6 would 'feel' by comparison (torque etc) but with these figures^^ it's a more than fair payoff. The only V6 I ever drove was a VX commo and although quick, it just felt like it was revvving it's naught off and was at it's limit... I doubt not that the new Ford V6 would be leaps and bounds ahead of this though

[Quicksand]

Originally Posted by Boosh Brus

There is an online converter here: http://calculator-converter.com/l_10...per_100_km.php

Or use the 'convert' function in www.google.com

As an example, load www.google.com and in the search field type:


convert 100km to miles

or

convert 19mpg to l/100km



You can do this for a range of metrics and measurements etc.

Good old Google.

Agreed with others, this once again highlights how impressive the OZ I6 is!

[Burnout]

This is a good site:

http://www.onlineconversion.com/

I'm gunna use it to convert the cat to a dog next time.