Not another speeding fine thread ? - Page 2

boss 300 · 23-06-2010, 07:07 PM

rta,the big monster created by the own government; bunch of mermaids;c...ts whit scale

**GasoLane** · 23-06-2010, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jaydee

Statute of limitations here in WA is 6 months for minor traffic offences and 2 years from memory for driving without a license.
I would say they wouldn't prosecute this due to the time involved and not in the public interest.

Oh they dont prosecute, they just cancel my license. Which could be kind've awkward when I run 900km gauntlet of HP and RTA inspectors every night

Got it in one MO.

vztrt · 23-06-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MO

I think a few people have missed a bit,they wont prosecute to get the money they suspend your licence. If memory is right they don't even have to go to a magistrate to do it they have the power.

Lucky their keeping these types of dangerous menaces off the road... :rolleyes:

mik · 23-06-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveJH

Truck driver i'm guessing, too long between stops?

it does`nt have to be , a simple typo or forget to put the days date on and your in the poo, if they pull you over they usually go back through all your pages back to the last pulled up date, my last wallet mt i made a honest typo, he gave me a seat belt infringement as well $400 something fine, i felt like santa helping out the nsw economy

Dave3911 · 23-06-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

Oh they dont prosecute, they just cancel my license. Which could be kind've awkward when I run 900km gauntlet of HP and RTA inspectors every night

Got it in one MO.

From reading the FAQ on their website, even though you think you paid it - the fact is you cant proove it. I think the tact that you need to take is to argue that you never recieved the first penalty notice before they have now issued their enforcement order... to try to get it reduced back to the original penalty notice.

To quote the FAQ

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If we find an error has occurred and notices from the issuing authority have not been served on you correctly before the issue of the enforcement order, we will :

write to you confirming that the cost has been waived or,
stop enforcement action and return the fine to a penalty notice, providing you with the options available to satisfy a penalty notice.
If we find the notices have been served correctly, you will need to pay the enforcement order or finalise it by one of the options explained on the enforcement order.

Given they haven't followed it up for 10 years, I would think it'd be safe to argue you never recieved it..... If they say you did, get them to prove what they've done in the last 10 years in regards to correspondence. If they conceed you never recieved it, they may then shunt it back down to the initial penalty notice. Which you then fill out the court contest option..... Turn up for you day in court and try your luck with the Magistrate.... "It was 10 years ago, I have no idea, they haven't filled their side of the Bargain by doing this in a timely fashion"..... Never know, might get lucky.... Some magistrates can be quite reasonable when government departments have taken this long to deal with things.... As we know, others come from a different planet!

Might be a long shot - but I think it's worth a try.

prydey · 23-06-2010, 09:54 PM

thats a bit stiff Rog, maybe they got wind of the fact you'd recently said transport s.a. make them look good. they thought they'd set the record straight!!

**GasoLane** · 26-06-2010, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mik

it does`nt have to be , a simple typo or forget to put the days date on and your in the poo, if they pull you over they usually go back through all your pages back to the last pulled up date, my last wallet mt i made a honest typo, he gave me a seat belt infringement as well $400 something fine, i felt like santa helping out the nsw economy

They can go back as far as they like I think. .... During a recent 'blitz' on the Newell I was pulled up 4 times in two weeks. In each case they went back more than three weeks!

Just to see if their mates missed anything I guess

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Originally Posted by prydey

thats a bit stiff Rog, maybe they got wind of the fact you'd recently said transport s.a. make them look good. they thought they'd set the record straight!!

Bugger. I never thought of that

mik · 26-06-2010, 11:33 PM

yes you have to admire them for they`re thoroughness

Spinner5711 · 27-06-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave3911

From reading the FAQ on their website, even though you think you paid it - the fact is you cant proove it. I think the tact that you need to take is to argue that you never recieved the first penalty notice before they have now issued their enforcement order... to try to get it reduced back to the original penalty notice.

To quote the FAQ

Given they haven't followed it up for 10 years, I would think it'd be safe to argue you never recieved it..... If they say you did, get them to prove what they've done in the last 10 years in regards to correspondence. If they conceed you never recieved it, they may then shunt it back down to the initial penalty notice. Which you then fill out the court contest option..... Turn up for you day in court and try your luck with the Magistrate.... "It was 10 years ago, I have no idea, they haven't filled their side of the Bargain by doing this in a timely fashion"..... Never know, might get lucky.... Some magistrates can be quite reasonable when government departments have taken this long to deal with things.... As we know, others come from a different planet!

Might be a long shot - but I think it's worth a try.

Acts Interpretations Act (1901) holds that if the letter was posted to your correct address at the time (address held by RTA) then you are deemed to have received it. There's no way out of that one.

You can't argue that you lived at a different address because then the NSW Photo ID Legislation requires a holder of a NSW Govt issued photo identification card to notify the issuing authority of change of address within 14 days of the move. They'd have you for not advising of a change of address within the time limit and hit you with a new fine.

deesun · 27-06-2010, 12:42 AM

Either way you're

ed.

**Whoosha** · 27-06-2010, 09:08 AM

Just another rouge "Truckie" finally caught up and dealt with .....

Franco Cozzo · 27-06-2010, 10:01 AM

Why fine over spelling mistakes? Its not an English essay (mind you here in Victoria, you can still get maximum marks with spelling and grammar mistakes anyways).

aussie muscle · 28-06-2010, 02:20 PM

i read in todays paper about 1/2 million people have not paid their SHB tolls.

MORE than 2.7 million trips across the Harbour Bridge have not been paid for in the past 12 months, defying the RTA's claim that cashless tolling would be embraced by the motorists.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1225884920624

**GasoLane** · 29-06-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Whoosha

Just another rouge "Truckie" finally caught up and dealt with .....

At least I wasn't driving an Iveco at the time!!

**Burnout** · 29-06-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Whoosha

Just another rouge "Truckie" finally caught up and dealt with .....

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

At least I wasn't driving an Iveco at the time!!

Obviously an evil felon who needs locking up, I suggest the Boggabilla Watchouse.

On a lighter note; I had cause to meet a bloke, a few years ago now who had been arrested by virtue of a Warrant of Commitment up here. The Offence of Stealing(Shoplifting) as a Minor. The offence had been committed in 1965. This bloke had arrived in a Queensland Prison as he hadn't paid the fine of two pounds, six shillings.
I asked him why had he not just given the local wallopers the five dollars oweing. He told me his mum had given his dad the money to pay the fine on the day of the court case, but dad had tossed it down his gullet at the pub instead.
He went on to tell me his dad was still with us & could he use a phone to tell dad where he was and why....

**GasoLane** · 29-06-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Burnout

Obviously an evil felon who needs locking up, I suggest the Boggabilla Watchouse.

Spoken by one who knows ?

(It's actually the outside dunny at the Wobbly Boot!)

**Mechan1k** · 30-06-2010, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Charliewool

Don't think cameras zoom in on logbooks (YET!)

Actually ... the cameras that were in use in the Safe-T-Cam systems were of very high res (even back in 97-2000 when I was working on the system). I remember seeing a few images from tests ... and also one notable one where a driver used a numberplate concealing device at the time. Problem was he left his logbook open on the dash ... with the truck rego number written on the page. Put it this way, the image was that clear you could easily read the handwriting. Lets just say he didn't get off that one lightly.

**Burnout** · 30-06-2010, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

Spoken by one who knows ?

(It's actually the outside dunny at the Wobbly Boot!)

It must be, the original Watchouse cells from Bogabilla are at my cousins place, just up the Gore Hwy outa Gundy, thickets bits a' Red Gum I've ever seen.

**GasoLane** · 01-07-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechan1k

Actually ... the cameras that were in use in the Safe-T-Cam systems were of very high res (even back in 97-2000 when I was working on the system). I remember seeing a few images from tests ... and also one notable one where a driver used a numberplate concealing device at the time. Problem was he left his logbook open on the dash ... with the truck rego number written on the page. Put it this way, the image was that clear you could easily read the handwriting. Lets just say he didn't get off that one lightly.

Thats about right. When they first came out I asked an Inspector how good they are. His answer was "Good enough to read the brand of radar detector on your dash" .....Not that I ever had one of course

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Originally Posted by Burnout

It must be, the original Watchouse cells from Bogabilla are at my cousins place, just up the Gore Hwy outa Gundy, thickets bits a' Red Gum I've ever seen.

Thats probably why it's not there anymore. If it cold enough the locals in Bogga can burn anything!!