Ford Covers it's *** nicely

[tezxr8man]

i was under the impression that the dealerships had the diagnostic tools to do detect how many times the ECU has been flashed and what for?? have a good mate who works at the dealership up here and i as told how many times and why the old mans pursuit was flashed since new a few months ago and i verified it through them, they get flashed a bit apparently for software upgrades and stuff, maybe not all dealerships tho?

[mik]

Originally Posted by tezxr8man

i was under the impression that the dealerships had the diagnostic tools to do detect how many times the ECU has been flashed and what for?? have a good mate who works at the dealership up here and i as told how many times and why the old mans pursuit was flashed since new a few months ago and i verified it through them, they get flashed a bit apparently for software upgrades and stuff, maybe not all dealerships tho?

i`d say not all dealers have the same level of equiptment.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by geckoGT

He also stated they are not allowed to sell a Ford that has been tuned, although I do not know if that is a Ford ruling or a dealer ruling.

My last car had been flash tuned (and returned to stock before trade), the dealer that bought it didn't care and they sold it on their lot. I think some dealers should take more care in which cars they choose to buy, my car went through no mechanical check whatsoever, their "inspection" consisted of taking down the kilometres and the colour, that's it. For all they knew, the car could have been an ex-writeoff with a busted motor that had never been serviced in its life. Luckily for them I told them what had and had not been done with it.

Regarding whether or not regular dealers have the equipment to tell if a BF onwards has been flashed, when I got my old car serviced they knew it had been flashed. It was a new-ish service centre with the latest tech.

[MR_SIDO]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

My last car had been flash tuned (and returned to stock before trade), the dealer that bought it didn't care and they sold it on their lot. I think some dealers should take more care in which cars they choose to buy, my car went through no mechanical check whatsoever, their "inspection" consisted of taking down the kilometres and the colour, that's it. For all they knew, the car could have been an ex-writeoff with a busted motor that had never been serviced in its life. Luckily for them I told them what had and had not been done with it.

Regarding whether or not regular dealers have the equipment to tell if a BF onwards has been flashed, when I got my old car serviced they knew it had been flashed. It was a new-ish service centre with the latest tech.

Ok, so what you are saying is that If you have flash tuned your vehicle you want the dealer to check and offer you thousands less then one that has not been flash tuned? are you happy with that?

[Terrarize]

Common opinon here im seeing...........Buyer beware and the dealer needs to do the righty here as we have all stated.It seems the dealer has shoulders like a galiano bottle and is trying to side step their responsibilities,who knows this may cause PR issues for Ford if it drags on

[atec77]

Originally Posted by DJM83

I understand where the OP is coming from, but if the car has had a flash tune how is it Fords (not dealer) that the original factory warranty is voided.

One would reasonably expect as part of the std going over a used car the ecu be reflashed to the lastest software thus avoiding the potentual for future problems , any company that doesnt make the car as close to factory as possible is making bad assumptions or is failing in it's duty to correctly service the car and by doing so must accept problems for failure to check well and find if condition ius as described in the warranty

[OLDFORDNUT]

Originally Posted by Bobman

If it's minor and has potential of being very expensive, then I'd suggest to stop driving it.
Can you elaborate on the exact problem? Might be better off repairing it yourself as getting a dealer to repair it under warranty could just end up with more problems!

sorry bud but your post is rubbish and still leaves owner with car that is marked as altered and owner as someone who gives in easy. your advice would kill any future claims,im actually amazed you wrote this dribble,some of you need to think before you type.Darcati, take it back to dealer and start making a scene, they are taking your politeness as a joke, best wait till you see several customers in there and start yelling now, you have been more than fair to them now they are quite obviously standing over you with dribble.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by MR_SIDO

Ok, so what you are saying is that If you have flash tuned your vehicle you want the dealer to check and offer you thousands less then one that has not been flash tuned? are you happy with that?

Naturally, the $$ will vary but 90% of the people that mod their cars know:

a) they wont get their money back
b) in most cases returning it to stock helps sell the car

I find it odd that this post is the ONLY post from someone in the dealer network.

Heres a solution, perhaps, buy a secondary ECU to flash and play with, then return your original when trading..unless ECU's are matched to cars but I would have thought its just the same as any other part, generic.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by atec77

One would reasonably expect as part of the std going over a used car the ecu be reflashed to the lastest software thus avoiding the potentual for future problems , any company that doesnt make the car as close to factory as possible is making bad assumptions or is failing in it's duty to correctly service the car and by doing so must accept problems for failure to check well and find if condition ius as described in the warranty

I reckon thats a good idea

[TS50]

Originally Posted by DJM83

I reckon thats a good idea

But the damage could have already be done to the motor, so flashing back to original or latest flash wont make any differece
I can see both sides here, and feel for the new owner, but I can also see Fords point of view too

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by TS50

But the damage could have already be done to the motor, so flashing back to original or latest flash wont make any differece
I can see both sides here, and feel for the new owner, but I can also see Fords point of view too

I think theyre talking about the dealer, not Ford. Fords responsibility, if they have any, is between Ford and the Dealer and will depend on their contractual arrangements.

The OP on the other hand, that will be based on the contract between buyer and dealer, ie: Warranty.

[TS50]

Originally Posted by fmc351

I think theyre talking about the dealer, not Ford. Fords responsibility, if they have any, is between Ford and the Dealer and will depend on their contractual arrangements.

The OP on the other hand, that will be based on the contract between buyer and dealer, ie: Warranty.

Sorry I mis read