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04-01-2011, 07:22 PM | #1 | |||
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So we round out the year.
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04-01-2011, 07:47 PM | #2 | ||
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With a 2.9% finance deal on the Yaris and Corolla, their sales will no doubt be on fire. As for the predicted slump for Ford, I hate to pull up excuses, but we're all full aware that fleet sales drop in December, January and February, before gaining momentum in March. Ranger, Falcon and Territory sell well to fleets, so IMO this would explain why Ford may have dropped more than others. Add to this the ageing Focus, limited stock of WS Fiesta Zetec models before the WT Fiesta Zetec model comes in March (the Zetec is the biggest seller) and the medium car market (Mondeo) never being a massive one apart from the Camry, well if Ford gained ground it'd be a miracle.
The next few months will be tough, but in March we'll have the WT Fiesta Zetec which should hopefully clear availability issues, after that an updated Territory with a TDCi option which should no doubt assist sales, and then a revised Falcon with EcoBoost. Fingers crossed.
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One of the hardest things in any sales arena is to regain lost ground, to get people back after going to another brand and Ford is still losing ground to almost everyone.
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04-01-2011, 10:51 PM | #5 | ||
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With down days and an early shutdown December was always going to be a poor month for Ford.
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04-01-2011, 10:57 PM | #6 | ||
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So what are the numbers for December?
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04-01-2011, 11:39 PM | #7 | ||
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hmmm, the lack of a sedan based wagon may also have a small effect on the Falcon from '09 figures, but some drift to Territory or Mondeo may have occured with minimal impact on the bottom line, unless the drift was to commodore.....
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04-01-2011, 11:53 PM | #8 | ||
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Commodore, Falcon sales lowest in decades
http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2010...-decades-17859
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05-01-2011, 12:19 AM | #9 | ||
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Commodore and Falcon sales lowest in decades...
Gee, Mr Dowling REALLY researched that! Large cars form the smallest percentage of total sales more than ever as people look towards small and medium alternatives. In 1983 when you had the VH, small cars were not as well equipped as today. Today a small car has many of the features of a larger car except the total power output, torque, size and space. For some people, that isn't important. Companies are more prepared to put money into smaller cars now because they form a larger percentage of the market now and to have a car inferior to others will mean less success...theoretically at least...
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05-01-2011, 12:33 AM | #10 | ||
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A 'small' car isn't small these days. A 2011 Toyota Corolla is as big as a 1978 VB Holden Commodore.
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05-01-2011, 01:03 AM | #11 | |||
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Not exactly sure how shutting down production leads to poorer sales to the general public, but- What is occurring with the local manufacturers is that each time they take a drop in production, they are in turn ruining one of their biggest consumer markets. For example, Ford employs approx 3000 for local assembly, and suppliers and like employ up to 7000 more. I think one would find a larger percentage of Falcon drivers in this group percentage wise than you would find in the general population. As these people get less hours due to shutdowns etc, they are less likely to purchase big ticket items like a Falcon. Less Falcon purchases leads to more shutdowns and so on and so on. Purely from a financial perspective, if Ford have 3,000 employees and suppliers have 7000 employees for a Broadmeadows production base of 50,000 cars a year ( 5 cars per year per employee), then there is no way that anyone is making money from these numbers. |
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05-01-2011, 11:43 AM | #13 | ||
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Don't forget there was a lunar eclipse too.
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05-01-2011, 11:50 AM | #14 | ||
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oh noes.... here we go again! the falcon is useless. ford are useless. ford's marketing is useless. large cars are silly. ford need a wagon. sales figures show which are the best products. sales figures show which companies are profitable and which aren't!......
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05-01-2011, 12:40 PM | #17 | |||
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On a serious note, Ford have burn't a lot of bridges with consumers over many years. It will take a decade or more of being on top of their game to even hope to reverse the trend. You don't sell someone a shoddy Falcon or Territory, with no recalls or proper fixes and expect them to come running back to you a few years later when you offer a new engine choice in the same car. Only Ford and its die hard fans think that will work. Once someone moves away from a brand or service, it becomes exponentially harder to get them back. They are gun shy and in Fords case, for good reason. They are also in a incredibly competitive market. There will be no quick fixes for Ford. Only a prolonged commitment to being the best in all areas: service, sales, warranty, dealers and support will see the trend pickup for them. Even if all that was in place, I would expect Ford have a decade or more of hard work in front of them to turn the reputation and sales around. I wish them the best, because so many jobs and unique Australian products depend on it, but new product or learning how to make cars more cost effectively in a shrinking market segment won't pull it off alone. That is just part of the equation. Ford needs to be a better experience in all contact points that the customer deals with them. Dan |
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Whoa, the preliminary release of data from the vfacts website for December 2010 sales, would indicate a shocker for the local manufacturers. Sales for Large cars was 8003 cars, compared to 9620 for december 2009. Sales for 4x2 Utes was 4166 cars, a dramatic drop from the december 2009 total of 7490. Thats 12169 (dec 2010) cars compared to 17110 (dec 2009) cars in the two largest sectors that Locally made Holdens and Fords dominate in.
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06-01-2011, 04:54 PM | #23 | ||
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Geez, I thought I'd seen a lot of Holden Cruze's in my travels, but that number is staggering........
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06-01-2011, 05:12 PM | #24 | ||
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Those numbers arent good.
I dont know what it is but it seems that a lot of people drift away from the brand over the years almost as if there is some kind of stigma associated with it. Sad. a friend of mine who has always had fords, gt's xr8's and so on has just recently bought a new camry hybrid for his Mrs because he got 3 times more for his trade than the best of the Ford dealers would offer and that tiny interest rate form toyota. I was staggered he did it, this guy is as Ford as you get but he was so insulted by the trade valuations and their refusal to budge. My Brother also had always bought Fords and recently switched to a LandCrusier from his Terri turbo for the first time because it hadnt been updated in so long . I showed him the new one and he was excited about getting back into one again when the lease is up..
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I think the amazing result in that is the i30. It's proof of the shift in attitudes towards quality of the Korean brand, good product design aesthetics and an indication that drive-away price point (and not whole-of-life costs) is a real sales driver.
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