New Nsw Car Hoon Laws . Grandma Policing .

[gtfpv]

in the papers and news today the state govt is introducing new speeding laws , where if you are caught pseeding at 45 kms over the limit , it will be an automatic , number plate taken from that car for 3 months !!!! and if caught agin within 5 months the car will be permanently confiscated by govt . what have we become ?
i thought losing your liscence was enough. now they can take your car off you , ( shouldnt they have to pay you for it ? it isnt thier property . WTF is going on here .
its possible in an fpv to overtake a car and increase your speed by 40km/hr in 2.5 seconds . to me i think they are going too hard on this , and perhaps if thats their NANNA plan . they better speed limit all cars to 110kms hour . ( whats the difference )
govts just seem to be able to do whatever someone person in power says , these days . ( NOT HAPPY JAN )

[Jim Goose]

And your reason for being 45kmh an hour over the limit is?

GOOD! take the boofheads car, i cant see an issue with it....

105kmh in a 60zone in the suburbs? YOU DESERVE IT!

So what if you loose your licence now? How many time have people been caught driving their car without a licence and it never stopped them? plenty...

[tickfordcrazy21]

That is so true. Under the hoon laws in vic. If the police hear your tyres squeal or if you are 25 ks over the speed limit they can disqualify you for up to six months on the spot. And then they can impound your car for up to thirty days. And then after paying the $1280 to get your car out. Then you go to court and can lose your licence for a further six months. I know. It happened to me...

[tickfordcrazy21]

Six months longer

[madwag]

i gotta agree with some hoon laws.
45km over the limit twice in 5 months. And thats only if you get caught!

what reason could there be for going a potential 155kph?

[gtfpv]

ok so you own an fpv , or performance car of some sort , you are tailing a truck at 70km an hour in a 80 zone , your in a country area , you safely overtake flooring it to get pat as quick as possible , by the time you pull in your doing 130kms hr , and you take your foot off throttle at that monent 500 metres up the road a highway patrol car is sitting there waithing for you with the radar on . what happens next . a big fine , no licence , hand your plates in for 3 months as well , and a black mark saying if you do this again you will lose your car .and 4 years later you do it again same scenario ( what if your paying it off ) and want to sell itr to recoup the costs . your in your 40's or 50's and have only been booked 2 times in 5 years ,have never done anything wrong in your life and only been booked 2 times in 30 years . are you now a criminal , not worthy of driving or owning that car anymore ??
this is hyperthetically what could happen could it not ?

[GUNXR6T]

** owing a car then, nothing belongs to anyone anymore just take it. In some countries someone touches ur stuff u get killed, same as buying a house, you own it and still u have to go ask council to do something in ur backyard.

[gtfpv]

you could literally tell people i put my foot down 2 times in 5 years , each time for 3 seconds ,overtakijng a truck , and lost my vehicle , and my licence and have a very bad driving record , because i overtook a truck .

[pottery beige]

SA three offences over ten years.... crush.. crush....

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

And your reason for being 45kmh an hour over the limit is?

GOOD! take the boofheads car, i cant see an issue with it....

105kmh in a 60zone in the suburbs? YOU DESERVE IT!

So what if you loose your licence now? How many time have people been caught driving their car without a licence and it never stopped them? plenty...

agree - if you cannot control your speed within 45 kph, then you shouldn't own the car

[gtfpv]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

agree - if you cannot control your speed within 45 kph, then you shouldn't own the car

WOW . to me thats a harsh rule to easily agree to , losing your licence is one thing , but having your car stolen for it is another , if nothing happened other than a radar reading .

[Spammy]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

ok so you own an fpv , or performance car of some sort , you are tailing a truck at 70km an hour in a 80 zone , your in a country area , you safely overtake flooring it to get pat as quick as possible , by the time you pull in your doing 130kms hr , and you take your foot off throttle at that monent 500 metres up the road a highway patrol car is sitting there waithing for you with the radar on . what happens next . a big fine , no licence , hand your plates in for 3 months as well , and a black mark saying if you do this again you will lose your car .and 4 years later you do it again same scenario ( what if your paying it off ) and want to sell itr to recoup the costs . your in your 40's or 50's and have only been booked 2 times in 5 years ,have never done anything wrong in your life and only been booked 2 times in 30 years . are you now a criminal , not worthy of driving or owning that car anymore ??
this is hyperthetically what could happen could it not ?

Just a heads up - I doubt any court would agree with your concept of "safe overtaking" and doing ""130km in an 80 zone" sitting together. FYI ...an 80 zone implies a max speed of 80 - not a long term average speed. I hope this helps.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by madwag

what reason could there be for going a potential 155kph?

Are you sure you are on the right forum?

I have for many many years done over 200km/h on roads in Australia even overtaking police cars once or twice.

If you really think that 155km/h is too fast on any road then this is the place for you....www.walk.com.au

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

WOW . to me thats a harsh rule to easily agree to , losing your licence is one thing , but having your car stolen for it is another , if nothing happened other than a radar reading .

it maybe harsh, but i fear idiots who have no idea what speed they are doing, more than losing my licence for being one of those idiots

if you don't know what speed you are doing, please drive no where near my family and friends

[gtfpv]

Originally Posted by Spammy

Just a heads up - I doubt any court would agree with your concept of "safe overtaking" and doing ""130km in an 80 zone" sitting together. FYI ...an 80 zone implies a max speed of 80 - not a long term average speed. I hope this helps.

just another heads up , most people should have lost there licences multiple times and had about 120 cars confiscated by by now also .

[galaxy xr8]

That's why you should "wait" untill it is safe to overtake safely and not have to speed "excessively" to get by.

[gtfpv]

im not trying to condone speeding here , what i'm saying is over the last 20 years , if the laws were the same as where they are heading . 10's of thousands , or perhaps 100's of thousands of australians wouldve had atleast 1 car crushed , cars are expensive , to be taken off you , you will lose $big $$$$ . i do not think that is right . licence loss yes perhaps , but effecting you capitol ??? no . if no damages are incurred , i'm surprised people openly agree that they should have their own property taken off them with no re embursement .
technology over the next 20 years with these AGHHAST NANNY RULES COMING IN , will render all previous ways criminal .

perhaps one day in the future , if you are not wearing the correct shoes in public , you will have your house demolished , and people will say you deserved it .

[FreddyDUZ747]

Originally Posted by madwag

what reason could there be for going a potential 155kph?

Because it creates less fatigue I hear.

Whats the criteria for a Nannay rule?

[MrEL]

Just another stupid Nanny state law.
Why dont they bring the same thing in for drunk and drugged drivers? That I would agree with.
But then the powers that be wouldnt be able to get behind the wheel after a long lunch and just get a rap over the knuckles like they do now.

[Luke Plaizier]

Try 40km/h zones on the freeway at night, when the road is otherwise 110km/h, and there are no workers around anywhere. How fast do you have to slow down to the 40km/h speed limit before your car is taken from you?

A good way to raise revenue - trap motorists, take ownership of their cars, sell them off. When they don't reach their quota for speed infringements alone they can make up some of the difference by setting up a few freeway 40km/h zones and then reap the sale of a few cars.....


Lukeyson

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

just another heads up , most people should have lost there licences multiple times and had about 120 cars confiscated by by now also .

And? If people havent been caught so what?

Wether you agree with the speed limit or not ISNT THE POINT.
Fact remains you cant justify going 45kmh over the posted limit no matter what the case.

YES WE ALL HAVE SPED at some point in our lives... but if i get pulled over and fined, ill cop it and grin.

On an average just in my suburb (50km zone) i have witnessed cars speeding well in excess of what i estimated 80kmh (not to mention driving through the stop signs without even slowing down) on more then on average twice per month.

and yes we all speed when over taking trucks on the highway, but at worst I have only gone to about 30kmh over the limit to get past a b-double or b-triple. If i have to plant the foot down and reach warp 9 because I have cars coming the other way then its NOT worth it. And yes we have a LACK of overtaking lanes here in the north....

45kmh over the limit and your REALLY attracting the attension of the boys in blue...

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by Luke Plaizier

Try 40km/h zones on the freeway at night, when the road is otherwise 110km/h, and there are no workers around anywhere. How fast do you have to slow down to the 40km/h speed limit before your car is taken from you?

A good way to raise revenue - trap motorists, take ownership of their cars, sell them off. When they don't reach their quota for speed infringements alone they can make up some of the difference by setting up a few freeway 40km/h zones and then reap the sale of a few cars.....


Lukeyson

In QLD and I daresay EVERY other state Australia there are rules as to how speed reductions are set out in road works areas.... if you enter a 110km zone and then it suddenly is 40kmh in a road work area, then you can safely rip up the ticket in court..... if there were speed reductions from 110... then to 80... then to 60 and then to 40.. and you missed them all... your problem.

And if you see sudden reductions say from 100 to 40 in a road works area, and NOTHING inbetween, report the issue....

[Foylema]

Im sure the bank would love the gov to take my car that under finance lol

[gtfpv]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

And? If people havent been caught so what?

Wether you agree with the speed limit or not ISNT THE POINT.
Fact remains you cant justify going 45kmh over the posted limit no matter what the case.

YES WE ALL HAVE SPED at some point in our lives... but if i get pulled over and fined, ill cop it and grin.

On an average just in my suburb (50km zone) i have witnessed cars speeding well in excess of what i estimated 80kmh (not to mention driving through the stop signs without even slowing down) on more then on average twice per month.

and yes we all speed when over taking trucks on the highway, but at worst I have only gone to about 30kmh over the limit to get past a b-double or b-triple. If i have to plant the foot down and reach warp 9 because I have cars coming the other way then its NOT worth it. And yes we have a LACK of overtaking lanes here in the north....

45kmh over the limit and your REALLY attracting the attension of the boys in blue...

totally agree JIM but does the punishment fit the crime . saying that would it make a difference in equitable punishment if your car was a $2000 xf falcon? or a $250 000 bmw.
we're talking property here , not licence .

[madwag]

I honestly think in my own opinion that if your needing to go that fast to over take, then you are probably risking your life and others. Just my opinion and im quite happy to stick with it and enjoy the privilege that is having a license and not have my car that i love crushed. Because the laws wont change and they are there for a reason.

[devilcv8]

I fully agree with this law, IF they include drunk drivers and their cars. Hold on, you can get absolutely blind drunk, get behind the wheel and never have your car taken off you.

First offense: as a p plater driving a shitter.
Second offense: you now have a nice car and get done 4 years, 11 months later.
How is that fair?

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by foylema

Im sure the bank would love the gov to take my car that under finance lol

Bank won't care either way mate, and neither will the Gov as you are still liable to pay of the financed vehicle that you now don't have, all you will be left with is a huge debt.

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by Luke Plaizier

Try 40km/h zones on the freeway at night, when the road is otherwise 110km/h, and there are no workers around anywhere. How fast do you have to slow down to the 40km/h speed limit before your car is taken from you?

A good way to raise revenue - trap motorists, take ownership of their cars, sell them off. When they don't reach their quota for speed infringements alone they can make up some of the difference by setting up a few freeway 40km/h zones and then reap the sale of a few cars.....


Lukeyson

I remember reading a post once in a similar topic about roadwork's etc and there was a posted link that had a ruling that if there were no worker's around at the time, the signage was void ?

[chris0]

Originally Posted by madwag

i gotta agree with some hoon laws.
45km over the limit twice in 5 months. And thats only if you get caught!

I tend to agree with the over 45km/h twice in 5 months too. I'm not saying I haven't done that far over the speed limit, but I am also well aware of the consequences. You're a fool if you think you wont get caught.
However...

Originally Posted by madwag

what reason could there be for going a potential 155kph?

Overtaking in 4th?

[TheInterceptor]

So how many people on their last strike do you reckon would run when they know their car will be taken off them?