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Old 18-04-2012, 08:22 AM   #1
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Default ED on a diet

Righto lads ive an ED here (GLi classic ???)
For a little fun i wanna see what can be removed as excess weight to get a better 1/4 mile time
Now its low low budget , so im at this stage looking at weight reduction rather than spending
So what have people removed as excess weight and what if anything did it acheive
Is a full interior strip out that beneficial at the track
Is stuff like running alloy rims as opposed to steel rims that much difference ???
Is there a formula that for every KG you remove will reduce the 1/4 times ???
Or is that another myth ???

Any ideas ???


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Years ago we done similar to a torrie, but we drilled big holes in the doors,but the metal was alot stronger , will the ED doors go floppy if i went that savage ???
We also removed excess steel from the bonnet and boot shells and removed all hinges and brackets and went to a 4 pin style , is there much reduction doin that to an ED, as its struts on the bonnet rather than hinges ???


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Old 18-04-2012, 12:27 PM   #2
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I assume it's a road going car also?

Pulling out the interior for race day will help you go quiker. Any weight loss will. Smaller petrol tank, gut the doors, etc.
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Old 18-04-2012, 01:00 PM   #3
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Is it still to remain street reg?There is a fair amount of weight to be taken out everywhere.

-Sound deadner everyhwere under the carpets that's worth removing for a few kgs.
-Aircon and its systems, like condenser and plumbing.
- Stereo
- Back seats
- Window regulators, can just fab a little bracket up to hold windows up.
- Remover the intrusion bars in the doors
- Heater box and fans behind dash. (I just did this and its probably a good 12kg with all the ducting, maybe a touch more.)
- Light rims, I think factory steel rims are probably the lightest option.
- Sway bar, take the front one out, helps with weight transfer and weight.


A 1600kg car with say 110rwkw will do a 16.2@94
A 1500kg with same power will do a 15.8@96
1400kg 15.4@98

So weight is worth taking out, but also horsepower helps lol
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Old 18-04-2012, 01:01 PM   #4
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Alloy Wheels are a must - steel wheels are to heavy - get some 15x7 Snowflakes - light as wheel and wide for wide tyres

Also check Progect Bluebird out (EF Falcon) see here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1lJomqHniU
Dry ice to remove the sound deadner

Air Con - Heater removal also
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Old 18-04-2012, 01:05 PM   #5
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Whats the weight on a snowflake?
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Old 18-04-2012, 01:28 PM   #6
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Under 10kgs each if I remember correctly - I will see if I can get a dendintate answer
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Old 18-04-2012, 05:36 PM   #7
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Thanks for the tips
No the car is not regoed, and probably never will be (another rego)
Now the rims,just on comparing a 12 slotter factory rim to say an old jelly bean style 5 slot,wow there like chalk and cheese in the weight stakes
Be interested in knowing what a 15" snowflake and tyre at say 30 PSI weighs

That aside at present ive a choice between the steel factory 14 " rims or the 5 spoke style XR series rims (alloy ???)
The air con is goin , its not hooked up , so gone , the steer set up will stay
ill throw updates up as i go
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Old 18-04-2012, 08:03 PM   #8
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I will weigh the 15x7 snowflake with a Mickey T 235 wide tyre on it when I next go to my parents

Make a build thread in the OzEcruiser Build Section - it also helps you keep a time line of what you have done and when you have done it
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Ill weigh a 15x8 stockie with 255 MT on them tomorrow
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15x7 snowflakes with 235 Mickey T's weighed 21kgs
15x6 Steelies/Interceptors with 225 retreads weighed 21kgs

The Steelies/Interceptors felt heavier but didn't read heavier

But that was on really really old human scales which had one foot missing so prob gave me a wrong reading - will have to find some proper scales lol
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Old 21-04-2012, 10:45 AM   #11
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15x8 Steelies with 255/60 MT Street Radials are 23kg with a decent set of scales.
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Get some Space saver's for the front.
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Old 22-04-2012, 12:08 AM   #13
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if you really really want to put it on a Diet ... PM me
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Old 22-04-2012, 09:59 AM   #14
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From another forum
15" E series 5 spoke XR type rim
Tyre and rim 17.7 KG
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