Henry Ford was a Nazi sympathiser

[castellan]

I think Henry Ford was a great man and back in his day he did not stand for people who oppressed other people at all.

[Bent8]

Originally Posted by cheap

Many people sympathised with the Nazi's in 1920's/1930's.

Why, because of the threat posed by that curse on humanity aka Communism. Lets be fair and call Communist/Socialism/Anarchism for what it really is, the worse form of slavery ever devised by man to inflict upon his fellow man.

Rewind back to the 1920's/1930's, communism was a real a danger to the industrial world, religious freedom and democracy.

Interesting also to note that Communism expanded greatly at the end of WW2 while leaving Germany (a very rich and mostly democratic nation) in complete ruin!

[ltd]

Henry was also a womaniser, and also was a horrible father to his son Edsel. He often humiliated Edsel very publicly even when Edsel was president of the company.
In fact, Henry indirectly killed his son Edsel by insisting that as a child he drink non pasteurised milk which led him to succumb to undulant fever; the cause of his stomach cancer and death at the age of 49. Henry also had his own appointees in the company keeping close quarter of everything Edsel did as President, and Henry often over-ruled his many decisions.
Henry Ford was a genius but not a very moral or ethical man.

[Sprint]

ford motor company was his third try to start a car company, the previous two tries he went bankrupt.

third times a charm

[cheap]

Originally Posted by Bent8

Interesting also to note that Communism expanded greatly at the end of WW2 while leaving Germany (a very rich and mostly democratic nation) in complete ruin!

Communism didn't ruin Germany per se (except of course East Germany).

As for the communism expansion, it has largely proven to be a failure. It only goes to again prove that any form of tyranny no matter how much it is sugar coated , no matter how much intelligentsia approves of it and no matter how many internal control measures (spies), by it's necessity to control the will of people, it will eventually become white-anted from within.

The list of failed communist/socialist/Marxist states grows every year.

BTW, communism hasn't gone away, but has morphed into various warm fuzz feel good gaia based philosophies

[5tumpy]

There is a couple of schools of thought about Hitler... One is that he was a perfectly reasonable, responsible leader of his country until he developed syphilis and as a result, his brain was fried and he went insane...

He didn't smoke, he didn't drink, he was an anti-smoking activist and had extensive anti-smoking campaigns throughout his empire... What he ended up doing was the work of a madman, and he turned out to be truly evil, but in the early days, he was seen as a forward-thinking, progressive leader who was dragging his country out of the depression...

It's also possible that the donations were simply the cost of doing business in Germany, but who knows, maybe Henry Ford was a Nazi, he was certainly anti-Semitic, but he was hardly alone... Hell if you go back to the turn of the 20th century, half of the male population of the USA were KKK members...

The biggest mistake modern society makes is making heroes of ordinary men who don't deserve it!

[MFP508]

the good the bad and the ugly about him is all right here => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford

[fordOwner]

I find it interesting too how Hugo Boss was a nazi supporter and he designed the black SS uniforms.

[superyob]

I believe the US had the biggest fascist party in the world, outside of Germany during the 30s or 40s...

[castellan]

Originally Posted by ltd

Henry was also a womaniser, and also was a horrible father to his son Edsel. He often humiliated Edsel very publicly even when Edsel was president of the company.
In fact, Henry indirectly killed his son Edsel by insisting that as a child he drink non pasteurised milk which led him to succumb to undulant fever; the cause of his stomach cancer and death at the age of 49. Henry also had his own appointees in the company keeping close quarter of everything Edsel did as President, and Henry often over-ruled his many decisions.
Henry Ford was a genius but not a very moral or ethical man.

Come on. womaniser, big deal ! when you are that wealthy women are all over you.
So what if he humiliated his Son, big deal.
God forbid drinking straight milk from a cow.
Maybe he would of been better letting his Son do nothing or did not care about what his Son did.
I am sure he loved his Son and ones Dad is not your mate but your Father there is a big difference and you do not disobey your Father, especially when you are running his company.

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by castellan

I am sure he loved his Son

he did love his son totally
however, i only believe this because of a book i read, that was published over 30 years after henry's death
and every single one of those stories must be 100% right
when condensing a man's 84 years of life that was lived to the fullest into 500 pages or a documentary on a world leader, of course some points are going to be highlighted in a negative way, some will be in a positive way - but since most of the stories are based on 2nd hand hearsay, who knows exactly what the truth is


my opinion is that he wasn't an angel, nor the devil
he was both pro and anti semite
he was both a fair boss and a hard boss
he was responsible for the 8 hour day and five day work week, but that obviously helped his business too
he loved his son, but probably expected too much from him

but love him or hate him, guys like henry changed the world and gave us the things we take for granted today - in his case, he made the vehicles we love affordable to us . . . . bravo henry

[zilo]

Originally Posted by flappist

No actually it is because the vast majority of information delivered to the general public in the last 50 years has come via the US media which has a much stronger focus on some parts of history than others.

History tends to always be biased by the victors who vilify the enemy and gloss over any attrocities or debarcles in which they were involved.

WW2 was actually one of the shortest and cleanest engagements in the last 100 years........

Oil (energy) has been the primary cause of most major wars in the last 100 years. Apart from the obvious Gulf war and Iraq, the Japanese were cut off from oil by the yanks which triggered Pearl Harbour, the Russians went into several "stans" over oil, Germans into Africa etc..

Absolutely, perfectly accurate on all points.
If there was a 9 metre tall thanks button I would press it 3 times.

[castellan]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

he did love his son totally
however, i only believe this because of a book i read, that was published over 30 years after henry's death
and every single one of those stories must be 100% right
when condensing a man's 84 years of life that was lived to the fullest into 500 pages or a documentary on a world leader, of course some points are going to be highlighted in a negative way, some will be in a positive way - but since most of the stories are based on 2nd hand hearsay, who knows exactly what the truth is


my opinion is that he wasn't an angel, nor the devil
he was both pro and anti semite
he was both a fair boss and a hard boss
he was responsible for the 8 hour day and five day work week, but that obviously helped his business too
he loved his son, but probably expected too much from him

but love him or hate him, guys like henry changed the world and gave us the things we take for granted today - in his case, he made the vehicles we love affordable to us . . . . bravo henry

He was both pro and anti Semite. ?
Now this is were where the aussie people are not very educated as people i have come across, have a lack of understanding of what is or could be comprehension, as they are very narrow minded and lack depth in such a subject, that they come across as pathetic or just plain stupid, or just brain washed.
Henry is not blinded and he is not attacking a true Hebrew position but another type of white washed tomb, i think mainly. and just remember Arabs are Semites to you know.

[dannyxm]

Hitler wasn't all bad, after all, he did kill Hitler.....

Boom boom tish

[Auslandau]

Oh dear ..... on that note going to leave it here as I think we have just been told that we are not very well educated, have a lack of understanding, no comprehension, narrow minded, pathetic, stupid and brain washed, all in 1 breath! Must be a record.

PS: yes did chuckle at the last post ....