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Old 26-05-2014, 05:06 PM   #1
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Default Holden recalls 45000 vf commodores

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news...-VF-Commodores

At least they're sorting it I guess

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Old 26-05-2014, 05:24 PM   #2
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At least they're sorting it I guess
Ouch! Is this part of GM's 12 million or whatever it was i saw the other day?
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Old 26-05-2014, 05:44 PM   #3
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Old 26-05-2014, 06:03 PM   #4
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Holden probably went from a locally supplied part used in the VE to a cheaper imported part used in the VF. The Holden purchasing department met their cost targets......
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Ease up - Ford's had a few recalls over the years.

Most of us have two eyes - at least they're dealing with it before it becomes a major issue.

GM products have failed over the years, but the Commodore is a good Australian vehicle.

Many people here would turn to them if they couldn't get what they wanted from Ford, so let's not deride a product that like the Falcon, has carried generations of families billions of kilometres collectively...and perhaps then some.
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Old 26-05-2014, 06:31 PM   #6
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Another quality GM product.
Technically wouldnt be a GM screw up. The seats are provided to Holdens by Futuris with the pretensioner fitted to the seat track (and loom prerouted), just as they are done for Ford. Similar thing happened around 8 years ago, found a damaged power loom on a 6 way seat in the Holden sales Yard (it had passed all quality checks), as seat was chewing away at loom everytime powered forward or backwards. Needless to say, alot of retrofitting was done on cars in the middle east, south korea and china (if I recall correctly). Issue was that no prevalidation checks had been done, prior to production.
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Old 26-05-2014, 06:47 PM   #7
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Recalls happen no car is perfect.
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Old 26-05-2014, 06:58 PM   #8
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cant even bag out the holden on these forums anymore somebodys gotta ruin it.
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Old 26-05-2014, 07:17 PM   #9
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I can't see why on a Ford forum site we can't give Holden a bit of stick, it's a bit friendly rivalry. I give a bit of cheek to my Qld mates this time year it all a bit of fun, no need to jump to Holden's defence they are big boys and they dish more out than they receive.
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even the big banga's have recalls

from 2012 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-2...recall/3974416
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Old 26-05-2014, 08:49 PM   #11
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To quote a friend of mine who's blood has ran blue for 70 years. "With the end drawing near I just want the last of our Aussie cars to be the good quality cars that they actually are, recalls are not good for the memory of the car manufacturing in this country, I hope there are no more issues for any of the manufactures"

Hopefully the last falcon runs without issue.
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Holden probably went from a locally supplied part used in the VE to a cheaper imported part used in the VF. The Holden purchasing department met their cost targets......
That wouldn't be the problem...sounds like just a loose wire...


A cable tie and a sleeve over the wire...done.
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That wouldn't be the problem...sounds like just a loose wire...


A cable tie and a sleeve over the wire...done.
Exactly what I was thinking. The mod should be pretty quick to do on each car, with minimal cost for materials and parts.

The media and many others seem to be making a big thing of it however...
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Old 26-05-2014, 11:12 PM   #14
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At least they recalled it rather than tried to play it off and BS about it.
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Old 27-05-2014, 12:25 PM   #15
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We live in a cover your **** society, recalls are becoming the norm.
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Old 27-05-2014, 12:50 PM   #16
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It's hardly a Toyota volkswagon recall lol
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Old 27-05-2014, 01:03 PM   #17
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Not half as big a debacle as the US parent on CNBC ... about ignition barrels.
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Exactly what I was thinking. The mod should be pretty quick to do on each car, with minimal cost for materials and parts.

The media and many others seem to be making a big thing of it however...
I havent seen a VF pretensioner, but if they are similar to VE, then it could be alot harder than one thinks. The loom goes down from the buckle, around the bolt, and is clipped to seat track, and then routed under the seat, and connected on the other side, and then covered by a plastic cover. I doubt there will be enough free play in the loom (and the pretensioner width where bolt goes thru is less than 10mm), for any retrofitting to loom whilst in car. At best I would think, the seat will require unbolting, pushed away from centre console, and new pretensioner fitted. The only company that will do well out of it is the seat track cover manufacturer, remove 10 of them, and you will break the clips on a few of them. GM America will be ****ed, they have to recall 4,000 plus cars, they wouldnt be used to recalls.
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Old 27-05-2014, 04:31 PM   #19
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I can't see why on a Ford forum site we can't give Holden a bit of stick, it's a bit friendly rivalry.
Still trying to remember which year was the last one in which Ford were a legitimate rival to Holden... :P
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I havent seen a VF pretensioner, but if they are similar to VE, then it could be alot harder than one thinks. The loom goes down from the buckle, around the bolt, and is clipped to seat track, and then routed under the seat, and connected on the other side, and then covered by a plastic cover. I doubt there will be enough free play in the loom (and the pretensioner width where bolt goes thru is less than 10mm), for any retrofitting to loom whilst in car. At best I would think, the seat will require unbolting, pushed away from centre console, and new pretensioner fitted. The only company that will do well out of it is the seat track cover manufacturer, remove 10 of them, and you will break the clips on a few of them. GM America will be ****ed, they have to recall 4,000 plus cars, they wouldnt be used to recalls.
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Amazing how the media and people are all over this Holden recall, but Hyundai managed to fly under the radar with their recall of the SantaFe.
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i wish Holden recall all their cars I HATE ALL HOLDENS PERIOD
like blueford260 has mention this is a FORD forum we can say what we like about Holdens as long we keep it civil, i bet my left one they do the same to us Ford fans i've heard it before my old boss was one of those typical Holden people.

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"A condition has been identified where the pretensioner wiring harness on certain MY14 VF Commodore and WN Caprice vehicles may make contact with a bolt at the base of the seat belt buckle assembly," the statement said.

"In this circumstance, if the pretensioner wiring harness develops wear as a result of contacting the bolt, the airbag warning light may illuminate on the instrument cluster and there is a risk that the pretensioner may not deploy in the event of an accident."

Holden said there have been no reports of any incidents or injuries as a result of this problem. It was discovered during an incident at the factory.
Simple inspection and if necessary, relocate cable away from the offending bolt.

I know I was relieved to discover my EcoLPI Ute was not part of the recall to change cylinder head..
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like blueford260 has mention this is a FORD forum we can say what we like about Holdens as long we keep it civil, i bet my left one they do the same to us Ford fans i've heard it before my old boss was one of those typical Holden people.

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