Only one-wheel burnouts.... what gives???

ssj_jaypee · 05-02-2005, 07:08 PM

Okay so the other day I was sitting there, had my foot on the brake and revved the engine up then released it and i managed to pull a bit of a wheel spinage but only thing was there were only 1 spot with tyre marks.
Same in the rain, whenever I accelerate my car looses traction so easily and goes sideways all I can hear is the right back wheel spinning.

What the hell is the go with this??
Does that mean I only have 1 wheel drive? lol
How can I fix this cause its also pretty dangerous in the wet.

Thanks!

Kryton · 05-02-2005, 07:17 PM

it means you dont have an LSD.

stockstandard · 05-02-2005, 07:18 PM

Yeah - 1 wheel drive (most cars are). if you dont have an lsd youll only get one wheel to spin. Power will go to the wheel with the least traction.

ssj_jaypee · 05-02-2005, 07:45 PM

Would you know if there is a cheap cure for this lack of LSD on my car?

RUQ1KA · 05-02-2005, 07:47 PM

get an lsd:P

LUXO_8 · 05-02-2005, 07:57 PM

yup, 90% of cars on the road only have a single spinner diff.
high end or sporty cars have Limited Slip Diff's fitted.

bout the only way you're gonna "fix" it is to buy an LSD diff. and have ti fitted to your car.

ssj_jaypee · 05-02-2005, 07:58 PM

Is it cheap?

:

As you can see I'm a n00b and require more indepth explanation on where I can get one from and how to install it. :hihi:

hornet · 05-02-2005, 08:17 PM

Some places quote $750-$800 for a complete LSD diff. You may be able to score the diff centre from another type of car (commodore VL onwards, Nissan R31 Skyline etc) Just make sure you have the right diffcentre that your chasing. Then there will be some labour to get it fitted.

santoitaliano · 05-02-2005, 08:38 PM

how much would it be to get your current diff & gears fitted with LSD?

NZ · 05-02-2005, 08:43 PM

Cheap fix: go to kennards and hire a welder and helmet.

pop diff cover off, weld diff.

then go break an axle taking the welder back to kennards

needturbo6 · 05-02-2005, 08:49 PM

~400 - 500 fitted depending where you go, thats for a 4-pin Centre LSD. get em to shim it up 2

Smoked · 05-02-2005, 09:28 PM

Hahahahaha, typical EA non LSD ONE WHEEL burn out machine. Lsd is definately the only way to fix.

V8 Ghia · 05-02-2005, 11:19 PM

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How can I fix this cause its also pretty dangerous in the wet.

LOL
If you find the single spinner dangerous in the wet, just try the same thing with a tight LSD and you will not think the single spinner is that dangerous after all.

LUXO_8 · 05-02-2005, 11:21 PM

LOL yeah... the single spinner is actually safer in that you only have 1 wheel spinning HEHE

eed-250 · 05-02-2005, 11:40 PM

bullshit! Am i the only person here who agrees that LSD is safer then a single spinner?
Ive upgraded to LSD recently in my car. Before with the open center, if i was sideways i wasnt sure if they car was gonna stay sideways or go open wheel or what.. You dont have full control of an open centre. They are unpredictable. Where as an LSD around a corner u keep the power on and she will just stay there, predictable as.. Much safer..

stockstandard · 05-02-2005, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EB MkII

Cheap fix: go to kennards and hire a welder and helmet.

pop diff cover off, weld diff.

then go break an axle taking the welder back to kennards

lol - the good old mig locker

Oh and yeah - 1 wheel spinning in the wet is *ok* because there are 3 wheels holding you straight - when both rear wheels spin around a corner you better be prepared! As you know, a single spinner is a real pain when you are trying to take of in a hurry though.

stockstandard · 05-02-2005, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by eed-250

bullshit! Am i the only person here who agrees that LSD is safer then a single spinner?
Ive upgraded to LSD recently in my car. Before with the open center, if i was sideways i wasnt sure if they car was gonna stay sideways or go open wheel or what.. You dont have full control of an open centre. They are unpredictable. Where as an LSD around a corner u keep the power on and she will just stay there, predictable as.. Much safer..

IMHO if you want to go sideways - get an lsd (easier to put it at an angle and more predictable). It is harder to accidentally go sideways with a single spinner though.

neb · 05-02-2005, 11:48 PM

i dont know.. i've learnt to predict my unpredictable single spinner pretty well... but i really want an lsd diff soon

eed-250 · 05-02-2005, 11:49 PM

yes it is harder to get sidways accidently with a single spinner, but when u do, and it has happened before on wet greasy roads accidently, the car is all over the shop. I spose LSD is safer if u know what ur doing..

EL_futuraistic · 06-02-2005, 12:59 AM

I hate my single spinner EL, in the wet i try to take off and go nowhere. However, i previously had a manual 4cyl RWD single spinner and have learnt how to control slides (both deliberate and accidental) so I drift the EL quite happily.

You can still get a single spinner sideways in the dry, u just have to have more balls to take the corner with much faster entry speed, and then plant ur boot mid corner.

But a LSD would be nicer, and yes they are more predictable in the wet.

needturbo6 · 06-02-2005, 03:46 AM

eed-250 is onto something, LSD is way safer but only if u know what ur doin....
an LSD is WAY easier to control than a single spinner pretending to be an LSD.

single spinners are way too unpredictiable especially when your tryin to do snakeys, and the more times you try to whip it back and forth the more dangerous it becomes.

This is due to the fact the wheel with the least traction wants to spin the most and if one wheel suddenly gets a lot of grip, off you go full pelt in some unforeseen direction, which if ur lucky is only a kerb....

ned · 06-02-2005, 03:58 AM

I'm another person for the comment made about LSD's being safer. After going from a single spinner diff, to an LSD there's so much more control you gain of the car it's not funny.

LUXO_8 · 06-02-2005, 11:43 AM

i didnt fully explain myself when i posted.
what i meant was yeah its harder to kick out s SS, saver for someone that doesnt wanna hang it out all the time

but i cannot wait till i can get an LSD back under the fairlane....single spinner diff's suck!
LSD is much more predictable in unsettled conditions - you can tell exactly what its goin to do - where the thing is goin to go, so you can control it better.

Supa R00 · 06-02-2005, 12:21 PM

Both have their srong points but for inexperienced drivers (like myself) i feel that a single spinner is safer as generally u keep tracking straight the way u want to go, with my LSD in the wet it dosnt take much at all to get crossed up and thats how accidents can happen... but u gotta love that feeling when you dump it off the line on the spot and the rear end starts sliding out

INJECTED_250 · 06-02-2005, 12:33 PM

HA Dont ever call an LSD predictable... At least with a single spinner you know there is a chance it will pick 2 so you dont push so hard... LSD's love dropping wheels mid side ways action, and that tends to love turfing the car in a different direction , then they lock up again.... If you want predictable handling then a spool is the ONLY true way to know what youre car is gonna do..

Phil91EB · 06-02-2005, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by needturbo6

This is due to the fact the wheel with the least traction wants to spin the most and if one wheel suddenly gets a lot of grip, off you go full pelt in some unforeseen direction, which if ur lucky is only a kerb....

This happened to me when i was 17 in a Toyota Lexen shot accross 2 lanes of traffic up a gutter and into a fence i was lucky There was no cars coming.
I was also lucky it was a company car.

Interceptor'85 · 06-02-2005, 05:41 PM

Can you actually upgrade your single spinner diff to an LSD just by upgrading internals? Or do you need the whole kitten kaboodle swapped?

Psycho Chicken · 06-02-2005, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by needturbo6

~400 - 500 fitted depending where you go, thats for a 4-pin Centre LSD. get em to shim it up 2

DON'T get them to shim it up, all it will do is wear the cones out quicker.

hornet · 06-02-2005, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EF_Machine

Can you actually upgrade your single spinner diff to an LSD just by upgrading internals? Or do you need the whole kitten kaboodle swapped?

You can just swap the diff centre over with an LSD item, I did that with my VL. Make sure you also get the shims from the donor diff too.