I got a XR 7 too

**Whoosha** · 27-01-2006, 08:13 PM

gee these xr 8 s get exspensive when things go wrong ,dropped on to 7cyls
last night , {great timing no drags for me tomorrow} got it diagnosticalay {if thats a real word) assesst spent near $500 on bits + coil pac, plugs + leads ext only to find it was a $22 valve spring . the biggest cost being the leads
@ $370 plus from ford , went for NKG at $270 just couldn"t figure why so much compared to the i6. also a cam sensore thingy $500+ wont be gettn 1 of them new when it gives up.. I supose thats the cost of being a happy XR driver..

so.. next question having replaced all the sparky bits do I do the 1 broken spring(zorst} or get a good set + do the lot motor is Au11 220 ,65000ks on it
Makes a good 190+ at the wheels, G+D cai,. unichip + a noisy zorst.
Probabley a dumb question.. but she who hands over the cash is very suspisious when i go shopping .... :Up_to_som :Up_to_som
lol a broke walking Whoosha......................

Baboon_AU · 27-01-2006, 08:55 PM

its up to you, you can replace one or the whole lot, depends how much money you have and how much time u have spare to install it.
just some advice, when you drop a cylinder, it is always worth taking off the rocker covers to have a look at what is going on.

xr8ute · 27-01-2006, 09:45 PM

Hmm....this sounds familiar. That sux man :(

I know the stock springs on the AUI motor where pathetic, not so sure about the 200/220kw motors though, i think they where a little different??

How much money do you have to spend, and long can you be without the car? I priced some good comp cams gear for about $500 in parts or some not as good Crane or Trickflow gear for around 250. Thats springs, retainers, and locks.

Bear in mind it was a Crane spring that broke on mine. The Trickflow gear seems a slightly better becsuse they use 10 degree locks and retainers compared to the Crane (7 degree) I would expect quality is probably on a par with Crane.

Labour costs to replace springs would be significant as well....unless you can do it yourself?

Probably best just to swap back in a standard spring for now. Then save it little extra cash and get G&D to fit some good valve springs at the same time as a bigger cam ;)

Lukeyson · 27-01-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xr8ute

I know the stock springs on the AUI motor where pathetic, not so sure about the 200/220kw motors though, i think they where a little different??

I had a feeling 220kw motors used Yella Terras ? or am i wrong

xr8ute · 27-01-2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by XR8fella

I had a feeling 220kw motors used Yella Terras ? or am i wrong

Yella Terra handled the headwork i.e. porting, larger valves, roller rockers. Not sure what brand/spec valve springs they used though...

JG3282 · 27-01-2006, 10:47 PM

It would stnad to reason that they would be YT or should I really be saying Crow?

xr8ute · 27-01-2006, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JG3282

It would stnad to reason that they would be YT or should I really be saying Crow?

Did Crow do the cam grinds for the 200/220 AU XR8's as well? Or where they Ford Motorsport parts?

Anyway, i reckon just replace the broken one for now. And plan for a cam and valvespring upgrade when you can get it approved by the missus.

BTW, I'm shattered your not going to make it down the track this weekend. Your making impressive power, I was very keen to see what sort of times you were going to put down.

I'd love to try a G&D CAI myself, but I think I need to stop spending money on n/a style mods and concentrate on fitting up the blower...lol.

xd5.8l · 27-01-2006, 11:33 PM

My engines pretty shagged (130,000) when driven with vigour I find the valvetrain is fairly rattly or noisey afterwards.

Would the main cause of this be the decrease in spring tension due to the extreme heat?

Or are these engines valvertrains just inherintly noisey?

svo347 · 27-01-2006, 11:36 PM

Could be anything from a slightly stretched timing chain to valve clearances needing adjustment

**Whoosha** · 28-01-2006, 07:51 AM

Anyway, i reckon just replace the broken one for now. And plan for a cam and valvespring upgrade when you can get it approved by the missus.

BTW, I'm shattered your not going to make it down the track this weekend. Your making impressive power, I was very keen to see what sort of times you were going to put down.

I'd love to try a G&D CAI myself, but I think I need to stop spending money on n/a style mods and concentrate on fitting up the blower...lol.[/QUOTE]

must admit am not happy about not running at this event, had been plotting +planing for months. are well next time.I will still be there to sniff the fumes + suport the rest of the gang. was trying to crack a 13 this time out ,managed a 14.08 last outing, mite do just the broken spring this time + start being realy nice to the misses

: any ways come over to the transporter with the 1 vacant space + have a yarn always good to put faces to the names....... walking Whoosha

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P.S go the blower... :hihi:

347Stroker · 28-01-2006, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by xr8ute

Did Crow do the cam grinds for the 200/220 AU XR8's as well? Or where they Ford Motorsport parts?

Yes, Crow did them for the 200/220 and 250 engines.

xr8ute · 28-01-2006, 12:14 PM

14.08 is sooo close...what sort of 60' times are you getting, and what mph at the end of the track?

I was heaps keen to head to Heathcote today for some racing, but i'm working in Perth at the moment, and driving a Hyundai Accent rental car for the next 3 weeks

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I'll see you at the AUFalcon big BBQ day though.

Good luck getting your spring replaced, hopefully shouldn't take too long.

Thanks for confirming the cams KingMutant

Dave

**Whoosha** · 01-02-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by xr8ute

14.08 is sooo close...what sort of 60' times are you getting, and what mph at the end of the track?

I was heaps keen to head to Heathcote today for some racing, but i'm working in Perth at the moment, and driving a Hyundai Accent rental car for the next 3 weeks

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I'll see you at the AUFalcon big BBQ day though.

Good luck getting your spring replaced, hopefully shouldn't take too long.

Thanks for confirming the cams KingMutant

Dave

Yay :1syellow1 :1syellow1 got all 8 cyl cracken again (thanks G+D for the loan of your floor space + tools,hate standing +working in tha rain) seems the leads plugs + valve spring have fired some life back into the old girl will get serviced + re dynoed tomorrow but feels strong as ever or mite be the weight loss due to walking for a week

: Now if we can just have a action replay of last saturday (maybe a bit cooler) I"m in....
Saw a xr6 down there getting a zorst + cai. put some good numbers up on the dyno before I was asked to leave + come back when its finished lol.. Watch this space for

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dave ; 60ft was 2.1022 mph97.64 but it was only my 2nd time out in the car hopefully with a bit more practice who knows
also thanks to all the AU guys for the ifo + help when these problems arise
........... Cheers a driven Whoosha again................... :eclipsee_ :eclipsee_

01-02-2006, 03:39 PM

OK Whoosha are you running a auto or manual mine is near the same spec as you but I'm running an auto 181.9rwkw and my 60ft are 2.2 and 14.7et @ best MPH was 98 worst 96 Track temp was 35 and 85% humidity

Id love it if you could post a pic of Dyno report after you get it done ,and whats your idea of a cool temp

Alan

**Whoosha** · 01-02-2006, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stampy

OK Whoosha are you running a auto or manual mine is near the same spec as you but I'm running an auto 181.9rwkw and my 60ft are 2.2 and 14.7et @ best MPH was 98 worst 96 Track temp was 35 and 85% humidity

Id love it if you could post a pic of Dyno report after you get it done ,and whats your idea of a cool temp

Alan

5speed, stampy ,motor is 220 ran it just after unichip went in .was at 193.7 rwk temp was 27c hum. 25% at heatcote .sheet + slip posted here some ware will get kevxr8ute to post a new one for me when its done (old computer illiterate one finger typist is me )

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cheers .......Whoosha

Drive XR7 · 01-02-2006, 04:17 PM

I have an XR7.

Ford 5.0L High Output, 3.73 gears. 245HP.

It isn't that bad. ;)

**Whoosha** · 01-02-2006, 04:27 PM

Sweet lookin ride man ,would make a great pimp mobile lol ......

xr8ute · 01-02-2006, 08:02 PM

Thats a nice 60'. My best is 2.140, but the first gear in the auto is sooo tall, even with the 3.9 gears its not exactly a rocket off the line.

I reckon with a converter stalling around 3000rpm i'd be in the 13's for sure.

Glad your back on the road

01-02-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by xr8ute

Thats a nice 60'. My best is 2.140, but the first gear in the auto is sooo tall, even with the 3.9 gears its not exactly a rocket off the line.

I reckon with a converter stalling around 3000rpm i'd be in the 13's for sure.

Glad your back on the road

No Stall my best 60ft is 2.250 I will try Stalling next time I get a chance ,Ive heard 1800 Rpm is the best , but I can only try

Alan