Advice on buying BF Typhoon

[99AUXR]

Originally Posted by raised by monkeys

Front brake discs/pads were worn. The car has 65000kms

Told you ;)

[raised by monkeys]

I didn't doubt you haha.

[Dash_XR]

Originally Posted by 99AUXR

Yea as I understand it like dash said 300rwkw would be a good mark. Personally if I was going past 300rwkw I would have some money ready for the clutch.

Always have some money ready for a clutch cause 300 will probably come and go lol.

[99AUXR]

Originally Posted by raised by monkeys

I didn't doubt you haha.

Yea my car is just above minimums at 69000. . . Must have had nana drivers previously, or maybe they just never stopped

Originally Posted by Dash_XR

Always have some money ready for a clutch cause 300 will probably come and go lol.

Indeed!

[XRQTR]

A standard car is in no way an indication of a better car, plenty of standard cars are thrashed and trashed trying to keep up with modded cars or they just don't have the money to do the mods. A clean car only means someone is super @n@l about dirt and appearance.

Always get any car inspected and look for books and/or receipts for maintenance.

However cars, like any piece of machinery, can break unexpectedly regardless of how well it's been looked after and cared for.

I'd rather buy a modified car any day of the week simply because it's often thousands of dollars cheaper than doing the particular mods, in fact quite often you can find then at little more than standard cars. But then my thinking is different to most, the way I see it is this, I'm going to do these mods anyway so why not save a few dollars now and enjoy it. When things inevitably go bang spend the money saved to build the bullet proof equipment I had planned to do anyway.

So, long term I'm still well ahead of the pack on budget simply because I bought a car for little more than standard price with most of what I want anyway, then spend the savings on finishing it to my personal spec that I may not have been able to otherwise.

Everyone has their own process of thinking and justifies their decisions in their own way, so basically as long as you can justify it to yourself, not the pack, then do what suits you best.


edit: forgot about auto editing of certain words

[raised by monkeys]

The only reason I bought a stock car is because all the other F6's that took my fancy had mods and didn't come with the original parts, which I'd need if they failed. You can also choose to revert it back to stock.

[FPV_Steve]

Originally Posted by raised by monkeys

The only reason I bought a stock car is because all the other F6's that took my fancy had mods and didn't come with the original parts, which I'd need if they failed. You can also choose to revert it back to stock.

That's why I've kept all my original parts, for that security and flexibility

[tut0r]

Originally Posted by FPV_Steve

That's why I've kept all my original parts, for that security and flexibility

Best idea with any car you do work on, even my original intake on my N/A is hiding around somewhere! Cheaper for me to put original parts on and sell the mods off separately! More money :P

[Robos F6]

Standard doesnt anyway mean not thrashed. I think a better indicator is ownership. If a car has had a one owner for a very long time even with mods would be a much better buy than a car that has been bounced from owner to owner to another and everyone having their bit of fun with it.

[HULK_I6T]

standard is a heaps better option. The car was engineered with strategies to protect from abuse.

But modded brings the car outside its engineering intent. So flogging a modded car would do far more damage and wear than flogging a standard car.

Also those that flog a car are unlikley to be happy with a standard car which will lead to mods. So for the standard car its also less likley to be thrashed..

In summary a stock car will less likley be thrashed and if thrashed can handle the punishment far better than a modded car.

Also people sell modded cars and take half the bits off to get a better price. So the tune will likley be out of whack as well..

The only benefit to buying modded is a more exciting car to begin with and for cheaper price but its laced with huge risk.

[T4ME]

Oracle has spoken.

[tut0r]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

standard is a heaps better option. The car was engineered with strategies to protect from abuse.

But modded brings the car outside its engineering intent. So flogging a modded car would do far more damage and wear than flogging a standard car.

Also those that flog a car are unlikley to be happy with a standard car which will lead to mods. So for the standard car its also less likley to be thrashed..

In summary a stock car will less likley be thrashed and if thrashed can handle the punishment far better than a modded car.

Also people sell modded cars and take half the bits off to get a better price. So the tune will likley be out of whack as well..

The only benefit to buying modded is a more exciting car to begin with and for cheaper price but its laced with huge risk.

I'd assume most people would flash it back to stock if they were to sell the car to you, especially if they are going to all that effort to remove said mods.

Also I'd still rather my modded xr6 than my girlfriends bog stock proton. I bought my N/A unmodded, well it had an exhaust and that was it, few months of owning diff needs replacing, oils probably hadn't been changed in 20k + brake discs needed machining...And this car was stock!

But now my car is modded and probably runs just as well as my girlfriends proton you know why i'd take mine? Well one she has a proton but two I look after my car, being the typical girl her car is a to b thats it, if I asked here today when her next service is she wouldn't have a clue.

So while I understand what you say Hulk its not just clear cut as modded is thrashed and stock is well looked after, I mod all my cars and look after them far better than most people I know, especially the girls.

Actually makes me laugh when I see a car for sale saying "female owner", I just wonder...

[brennan.]

Many aftermarket parts are manufactured to higher standards than factory so I can't see how a modded car will wear out faster when pushed. I would buy an f6 with adjustable suspension, CAI and stainless exhaust over a standard car, if the parts are a brand I recognize. But it all comes down to the test drive, runs good? drives good? no stupid noises? no dodgy looking body repairs? no fluids leaking? That's my basic check list and I've never bought a lemon.

[Dash_XR]

Only risk with a modded car would be if it has an unknown grenade tune in it otherwise you could save thousands. If v/s are done theres nearly a grand right there just for one mod. If you know who tuned it and car comes with receipts for the mods then all good.

[HULK_I6T]

Originally Posted by brennan.

Many aftermarket parts are manufactured to higher standards than factory so I can't see how a modded car will wear out faster when pushed.

Sure the modded parts are likley to hold together but its the pressure they put on other standard parts. For instance leaving a 4 inch dump pipe on and returning tune to stock will hurt the car or if tune is left there but injectors returned to stock.. Even intake swap can upset the tune..

My experience is that modders try and pull the saleable parts off when its time to sell to maximise sales price. But some parts are not economic to remove, so they leave half the mods and not the other supporting mods, leaves the whole car out of whack especially tune.. Buying a modded car can be buying a higgeldy piggeldy, dogs breakfast riff raff of a car (with half supporting mods removed and half still on). Some people smile on day 1 when they buy modded but by day 2 its all sorrow and expense when the skeletons come out of the closet..

Buy stock, pay a bit more, rely on the factory tune strategy to protect the car if abused..

[99AUXR]

I brought a stock car, motor went pop. . .Your point?

[brennan.]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

Sure the modded parts are likley to hold together but its the pressure they put on other standard parts. For instance leaving a 4 inch dump pipe on and returning tune to stock will hurt the car or if tune is left there but injectors returned to stock.. Even intake swap can upset the tune..

My experience is that modders try and pull the saleable parts off when its time to sell to maximise sales price. But some parts are not economic to remove, so they leave half the mods and not the other supporting mods, leaves the whole car out of whack especially tune.. Buying a modded car can be buying a higgeldy piggeldy, dogs breakfast riff raff of a car (with half supporting mods removed and half still on). Some people smile on day 1 when they buy modded but by day 2 its all sorrow and expense when the skeletons come out of the closet..

Buy stock, pay a bit more, rely on the factory tune strategy to protect the car if abused..

My first Hulk flaming, wow I suddenly have the same opinion as him.

[XRQTR]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

Sure the modded parts are likley to hold together but its the pressure they put on other standard parts. For instance leaving a 4 inch dump pipe on and returning tune to stock will hurt the car or if tune is left there but injectors returned to stock.. Even intake swap can upset the tune..

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Anyone that buys a half a$$ed car is asking for trouble in the first place, as for standard parts failing under stress/pressure well they'll be going BOOM anyway if you take a car out to beyond the equipments capabilities.

Your point is invalid as this is bound to happen whether they buy a car standard then mod it themselves or buy it modded.

As has been said in a previous post, more often than not owners of modded, but more so owners of highly modded, cars tend to 'over service' their cars and fix things before they might actually need it. A quick drive will usually tell you if something's NQR about a car, but anyone that buys a modded car without performing any kind of due diligence is asking for trouble.

It's safer to say that we agree to disagree, however in saying this I found it funny how you say that even though your car is modified you don't drive it hard.........why then is it modified and how is it possible that you are the only person that drives their car with kit gloves?? either you do drive it hard or you're lieing, or it's also possible that others drive their cars with care regardless of how modified they are.

It's all in the description I guess "I THRASH my car" or "I drive my car Spiritedly" ...........same thing.

Bottom line get it checked, regardless of what it is or what's been done/not done to it.

[MattstaF6]

Originally Posted by tut0r

I'd assume most people would flash it back to stock if they were to sell the car to you, especially if they are going to all that effort to remove said mods.

Also I'd still rather my modded xr6 than my girlfriends bog stock proton. I bought my N/A unmodded, well it had an exhaust and that was it, few months of owning diff needs replacing, oils probably hadn't been changed in 20k + brake discs needed machining...And this car was stock!

But now my car is modded and probably runs just as well as my girlfriends proton you know why i'd take mine? Well one she has a proton but two I look after my car, being the typical girl her car is a to b thats it, if I asked here today when her next service is she wouldn't have a clue.

So while I understand what you say Hulk its not just clear cut as modded is thrashed and stock is well looked after, I mod all my cars and look after them far better than most people I know, especially the girls.

Actually makes me laugh when I see a car for sale saying "female owner", I just wonder...

The way I see it, Who buys a high performance car and doesn't thrash it here and there? No One. Obviously if the car is modded then is could possibly be worn a little more than a standard one, but as long as the mods are done buy professionals it shouldn't be a real issue. However,I would rather buy a stock car and do the tune and modded parts done myself, at least i know the factory parts haven't been over stressed.

[tut0r]

Originally Posted by MattstaF6

The way I see it, Who buys a high performance car and doesn't thrash it here and there? No One. Obviously if the car is modded then is could possibly be worn a little more than a standard one, but as long as the mods are done buy professionals it shouldn't be a real issue. However,I would rather buy a stock car and do the tune and modded parts done myself, at least i know the factory parts haven't been over stressed.

My mate owns an xr50 turbo and drives like a grandma. Me personally I don't see the point of buying a high performance car and not using it once in a while. But there are people who baby the crap out of them and they never really see much hard use.

[WHYME]

Originally Posted by tut0r

My mate owns an xr50 turbo and drives like a grandma. Me personally I don't see the point of buying a high performance car and not using it once in a while. But there are people who baby the crap out of them and they never really see much hard use.

Honestly, there's nothing to really prove when you own a quick performance car, some people just like the idea of having all that power there if they need it. Just cruise a long and enjoy, I'm sure they give it squirts here and there - time and a place.

[tut0r]

Originally Posted by Fully6

Honestly, there's nothing to really prove when you own a quick performance car, some people just like the idea of having all that power there if they need it. Just cruise a long and enjoy, I'm sure they give it squirts here and there - time and a place.

I don't even think it has to be about something to prove, I like to give it a bit sometimes but I'm not going to spin it up at the lights to race someone. I like going fast.

[NETH]

Hi guys look finding hard to post anything on here.. ive been a member for years I just wanted to pick your brains...
my mate has a 2011 F6 he has had issues with rpm fluttering at like 2.5rpm or really whenever coming onto boost .. on full boost fine.. he since called me saying the car temp was going hot.. after a check on the over flow bottle no coolant evident told him to pull off radiator hose result was oil and water milky sludge water.. mech said cylinder head then found the auto trans cooler F*$ked out.... replaced 2k later he still has the issues with this rpm flutter coming on boosts.. Car is 2011 F6 completely stock 42k on clock... just seeing if anyone has had any issues like this or has an answer for the poor sod.. ive told him to check for vacuum leaks all bolds tightened and spark plugs which he just replaced and he says its a little better.. I told him .. im no mech but having the auto trans cooler go at 40k can not be normal and could be thee gear box? but I wouldn't have a clue would appreciate any help out there at all would be very very thankful.. cheers guys..Neth

[99AUXR]

These gearboxes do it all the time. . . .Most likely the mechatronics unit in the transmission has failed due to being exposed to water.

[MeLLy]

I have one and you just have to be smart, a stock one lets you know that it's been looked after, so low kms, suspension is all intact and doesn't need replacing, diff bushes are intact.

Just ask a lot of questions and get it looked over if you're not mechanically minded

[raised by monkeys]

Originally Posted by MeLLy

I have one and you just have to be smart, a stock one lets you know that it's been looked after, so low kms, suspension is all intact and doesn't need replacing, diff bushes are intact.

Just ask a lot of questions and get it looked over if you're not mechanically minded

Being stock and low kms aren't a measure of a cars condition or how it's been treated; especially in the context of now 10 year old vehicles.