Confirmation, v8 commodore was killed in 2011

[lovford]

Originally Posted by mike_nofx

Well what is it you want, sports suspension or a smooth ride?
There’s always going to be a compromise somewhere, the falcon may be smoother but has more body roll.

I have a VE SS with FE2 suspension and actually fitted stiffer springs. Corners well for a 2T wagon, still smooth on most surfaces and no rattles.

In my opinion, fords sports suspension is much better than holdens.

[mike_nofx]

Originally Posted by lovford

In my opinion, fords sports suspension is much better than holdens.

Maybe in YOUR opinion. But in the opinion of professional vehicle reviewers, the fords are slightly softer but have more body roll.

[commodorenutt]

Having owned numerous cars from both brands, I have to agree with ^^^.

I had a BA2 XR6, and found it firm, but not as firm as the FE2 in the VZ Commodore at the time. There was a noticeable difference. I had an FG XR6 for 2 weeks (1500km) and found it a little firmer - but then some of that could have been the bigger wheels (less sidewall) and it was still softer than the FE2 VE SSV.

When I got my G6, I quite liked the "luxury sport" suspension that the G6 & G6E got - it's similar to the FE1 in the CalaisV - often colloquially called "FE1.5" as it's softer than FE2, but still quite a bit firmer than stock - so in the same league as Fords L/S G-series suspension.

About 3 years back, I had the opportunity to get some ultra-low km springs & shocks from a GS - which are effectively the XR6/8 level of hardness. It was a big jump in firmness in my G6 (I'd done 120k on the OEM stuff, and I've since done 100k on these), but it's still not as firm as the VF SSV - it's between the CalaisV's FE1 & the SSV's FE2.

The FG does tend to body roll more than the Commodore doing the same speeds on the same corners - this is a fact borne out in many road tests, and easily repeated yourself if you have access to both vehicles. However I find that when you hook into a corner well in the FG, even though it does roll a bit more than the Commodore, it takes a more compliant "set" around the corner - being much more stable & predictable, and doesn't skip off track over little imperfections in the road like the FE2 Commodores do, making them feel a little nervous on the limit.

Just depends what you prefer - both have their merits, and different people like different things - one is not necessarily worse than the other, it's just what characteristics are important to the driver.