Snake Oil Sales Men and Other Charletons

[solarite_guy]

I think the ones that wind up lifting away from the windshield do for sure.

[Mercury Bullet]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

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And the first 150 callers get a free set of steak knives.

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As soon as I see claims of "up to" I run.
"Up to" starts at zero. -lawyerspeak.

[Mercury Bullet]

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[commodorenutt]

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

As soon as I see claims of "up to" I run.

Reminds me of the late 90s when Autobarn went on a massive expansion program - opening stores everywhere, and employing drop kicks....

Waiting in line to buy some oil on sale, the guy in front wanted to check out the pod filter in the cabinet behind the counter. He wanted to put it on a mid 90s Pulsar SSS and asked what sort of power gains he might get. The clown behind the counter suggested "Oh, up to 10kw at the rear wheels."

He could not understand why I was lauging so hard. Cost him the sale too.

[Maka]

Ok, a controversial one - e10? Thoughts please, octane - pass, mileage - fail lol..

cheers, Maka

[commodorenutt]

I keep extensive fuel records for my cars - have done since the late 90s when my boss at the time required it, and the habit stuck. Only the spreadsheet updated from Lotus123 to Excel....

I had a VE V6 in 2008, and my weekly commute was (still is) around 600-650km in total (depending if I take the back roads to avoid traffic). On regular 91, I could do over 650 to a tank - I would get 10 "trips" to & from work, with the low fuel warning on for the last 20km or so before filling up.
E10 saw that drop to 8 or 9 "trips" - so for me that was a simple 5-10% reduction in efficiency.
The desire for 10 trips meant I could fill up once a week, at the same time/place, which was a local servo where I knew the owner, and trusted the fuel. When it dropped to 8 or 9 trips, it started to mean 2 fills in a week, at odd times, altering a steady routine that worked well. So it was a major annoyance to me!

I also did the same fuel tests with our 6L Calais V at the time (it's a pre-AFM 6L). E10, 91 & 95. At the time 91 & 95 absolutely trounced E10 in true cost economy.
Haven't bothered comparing them much lately, as we generally run 95 in it all the time - as it's been proven by my spreadsheet to give the best km per dollar, unless the gap from 91-95 is massive. Mind you, I had a mate with an AFM 6L, and he reckoned there was no difference in E10 or 91 economy in his car, so different cars/engines behave different too.

In 2011 I got my LPi, so I haven't bothered to follow petrol economy as much since, but LPG can vary quite markedly, which is another topic in itself......

[roKWiz]

Got serious blowby, got oil pouring out from every gasket in the bottom end, got pistons hanging out of holes that weren't previously there....
use
"Cost Effective engine treatment" https://costeffective.com.au/
One 44 gallon drum of this will save your engine from a total rebuild.

Treatment and all the stages of it sound dearer than rebuilding the engine. Snake oil ??

[dunga]

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

Peter Brock’s Energy Polariser

The thing is now a brock commodore with polariser intact is worth more money and more desirable so I am told.

[commodorenutt]

Originally Posted by dunga

The thing is now a brock commodore with polariser intact is worth more money and more desirable so I am told.

I have one with, and one without. Not going to get into an argument over whether or not it works - I don't care, it was something Brock believed in, and offered his customers.

What I will say, is think back to when that radio scientist had the chocolate bar melt from microwave radiation, and invented the microwave oven concept. If you told someone in the 1920s you could put a cup of water inside a metal box, let is spin around for a minute, and it would come out boiling, they would have locked you up in the asylum. Yet they are commonplace in almost every house and workplace now.

We may not be able to understand, or harness the "power" of crystals & magnets in a scientifically proven way (try telling that to all the market stall holders) but I liken it to the microwave - just because you can't see it working, doesn't mean it isn't, and perhaps we're not advanced enough to be able to measure the effects of it, no matter how small? People sleep with magnetic underlays, and wear copper wrist bands. Have either of them been scientifically proven? I think we need to keep an open mind about these things.

But when it comes to value, overall condition plays a much bigger factor.

In the case of the VL Group A, it's the rest of the "plus pack" that adds to the premium they attract, but a very clean non-PP Group A is more desireable than a rough PP.

[wodahs]

well you can buy products for time travel why cant the rest be try too
for a mere $351 (coincidence I think not so better buy now !!!)
you can get a flux capacitor guaranteed to fit any vehicle

https://www.amazon.com/Back-Future-C...flux+capacitor

I could buy it receive it then go back and cancel my order and have it for free

[commodorenutt]

Originally Posted by wodahs

well you can buy products for time travel why cant the rest be try too
for a mere $351 (coincidence I think not so better buy now !!!)
you can get a flux capacitor guaranteed to fit any vehicle

Jaycar want $200K for theirs.......
https://www.jaycar.com.au/flux-capacitor/p/OUTATIME

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by Maka

Ok, a controversial one - e10? Thoughts please, octane - pass, mileage - fail lol..

cheers, Maka

I don't know. Everything is e10 over here. Some e15. At least there is movement to roll the e15 stuff back to e10.

Some are starting to see economic down sides to the whole "e" concept. I don't think there is a single cohesive story on that either.

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Got serious blowby, got oil pouring out from every gasket in the bottom end, got pistons hanging out of holes that weren't previously there....
use
"Cost Effective engine treatment" https://costeffective.com.au/
One 44 gallon drum of this will save your engine from a total rebuild.

Treatment and all the stages of it sound dearer than rebuilding the engine. Snake oil ??

Interesting. Have any independent tests been conducted on this stuff?

We have an outfit similar to that here by the name BG. Feedback is pretty good on that stuff, but you don't need to buy 44gals of anything.

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by commodorenutt

...it was something Brock believed in...

This kind of reminds me of a couple of Smokey Yunick's beliefs.

1. The hot vapour engine.
2. Long Rod/stroke ratio engines.

Smokey was a gifted mechanic, self made engineer and racer who could spot every loophole in every rule ever written. Oh, and, in private, couldn't speak a sentence or two without an expletive or two spitting out.

Even the sign over his shop: "Best Damn Garage In Town".

Those are two items he could never convince me to agree on. I spoke with him in person and corresponded too. Though I will agree with long rod simply to get the piston as short and light as possible. However, not in order to artificially have a tall deck for the sake of some mechanical advantage to increase hp.

Also, a he was a great story teller.

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by wodahs

I could buy it receive it then go back and cancel my order and have it for free

Don't forget to buy the next winning lotto number while you are at it.

[commodorenutt]

The sports almanac is the way to go.

Coupled with today's explosion of online betting sites, it would be far more lucrative than a lotto ticket.

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

This kind of reminds me of a couple of Smokey Yunick...

Little detour. Since we, okay, I was on the topic of Smokey Yunick I recalled a couple old pictures. There are many years or so between the time each was taken at Indy. The first one was taken when Jimmy Hall, of Flying Chaparral fame was moving into Indy racing and Smokey was on scene as a team consultant, mentor and coach. The second picture, Smokey is in the stands as a spectator...still Jimmy's consultant, mentor and coach.

Not able to give credit as I can not recall where I got these pictures, but thought they fit in to the conversation at this point.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by commodorenutt

And the Sea Monkeys in MAD magazine:

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I had them as a kid, was never satisfied, but can't recall getting my money back

[dunga]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

Little detour. Since we, okay, I was on the topic of Smokey Yunick I recalled a couple old pictures. There are many years or so between the time each was taken at Indy. The first one was taken when Jimmy Hall, of Flying Chaparral fame was moving into Indy racing and Smokey was on scene as a team consultant, mentor and coach. The second picture, Smokey is in the stands as a spectator...still Jimmy's consultant, mentor and coach.

Not able to give credit as I can not recall where I got these pictures, but thought they fit in to the conversation at this point.

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There is a book called power secrets by Smokey yunick I think the first one is in it

[Pis-ton broke]

Get a turbo exhaust tailpipe end. They increase power by 15%, and reduce emissions by 10%.!

[five 7]

Fuelstar anyone...

[solarite_guy]

It certainly looks to be in the "too good to be true", "hand picked seasoned" "virgin block" category.

http://www.videofoundry.co.nz/ianman...h/fuelstar.php