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I just realised that Red vs Blue, Detroit iron, 4 door family cars, the eternal battle - still exists here in Australia.
It's just now it's the Endura vs the Acadia. Endura is Ontario assembled, Acadia in Tennessee. Both companies have done RHD and sent them here. I think in GM's case they spent 100 Million converting for Australian and NZ buyers. https://www.caradvice.com.au/721194/...rending&slot=2 https://www.caradvice.com.au/695715/...acadia-review/ Now these two actually make a point of difference in the market. We are accustomed to well built, Japanese and Korean SUVs and tend to buy (and re-buy: good resale) these cars, but now we have an American take on the genre. So which is better? 5 seats in the Endura seems to hand overall usefulness to the Acadia. And maybe pricing falls Acadia's way too. Endura diesel and Acadia petrol V6. Will buying American end up a bit like buying Jeep (and there it is for the Pentastar trifecta...)? Will either of them exist in Australian RHD in a generation's time? As far as I can see, we have a point of difference, a bit of Americana, in our family car market with these two. Which would you pick? Or would you pick Japanese or Korean? I must compare with the Territory, for that is my frame of reference. Not one of the affordable medium family SUVs has the full time AWD (Suby does, with CVT) or ride/handling balance of the Territory, and I'll miss that. Of the two North American offerings, I quite like look of the Acadia... Of course, the Territory's successor lies somewhere near the Jag F-Pace, the BMW X5 and the Porsche SUVs, in terms of overall concept. And the American SUVs I'd be very interested in are the Navigator, the Explorer and the new Expedition! In the meantime, in an SUV family car world, can the Endura and Acadia blaze a path to make American cars great in Australia again?
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I haven't had a good look at the Acadia, but it looks to be a more progressive transition for a VF commodore buyer than the new commodore. (if that makes sense)
It even has the same commodore V6 engine, one think im a bit skeptical about is the promised fuel consumption. Fuel consumption is rated at 8.9 L/100km on the Acadia 2WD and 9.3 L/100km for Acadia AWD, although numerous variants available on the launch drive trip computer figures showed low to mid 10 L/100km in mostly highway conditions. A more representative figure will come once the Acadia passes through the CarAdvice garage.
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Not really... New Commodore has the same V6 as an option too. Having had a VF Calais and having driven a new one they are very similar (even smell the same). As for as V6 Commodore buyers go they should not be discouraged from buying a ZB, its only the V8 drivers that have missed out. As for the Acadia its as ugly as sin, it might eat some Kluger sales up.
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Progressive transition. not Transition. ie moving from the large Sedan to a large SUV.
Just like Falcon owners Progressed to the Territory For Commodore owners the Acadia should feel be more familiar than the Horrible Craptiva
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Also the Kluger and Pathfinder are US built. Did not know that.
Looks like the Americans have taken the large SUV sector here in Oz.
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Red vs Blue battle had passion. I can't see passion in the SUVs.
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The Arcadia would look amazing if it was 2009. Unfortunately in 2019 it's very basic and old looking.
I'd pick the Endura any day based on that alone. |
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Yep Arcadia should have been the Captiva originally!
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That 3.6 gm engine is a real piece of garbage. Very powerful and revs good when new but as soon as they hit about 150000kms they fall apart. Have seen many engine rebuilds and swaps with those low kilometres
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