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Old 28-04-2020, 08:57 AM   #61
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I can second that and vividly recall shuttling kids around in a borrowed one.

It was an awful thing to drive. Wheezy, asthmatic engine coupled to a notchy gearbox with failing syncro. Excessive road noise and engine roar made even modest speed feel faster than it actually was.

After dropping off the last pax, i would fuel it up to return it with a full tank. At a roundabout taken briskly, i clipped the inside curve and it lurched up onto two wheels.

Think i declined to drive it after that. I didnt need that sort of excitement.
you've obviously never driven a Ford Econovan aka Mazda Bongo (E series van)

remember driving through Gippsland one day when a small wind hit it side on & pushed me across the Highway into oncoming traffic...
Typical 80's van really !
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Old 28-04-2020, 09:34 AM   #62
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in my younger days, driving an escort at 100k/h , you knew you were doing 100. the car was shaking the engine was loud and wind noise was loud.

today , cars are heaps nicer to drive, in some cars you are unaware of the speed your traveling.
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Old 28-04-2020, 09:52 AM   #63
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i cant believe i survived my teenage/young man driving years, i was like some yobo commodore driver.

i raced my valiant against a torana one night, the torana over took me and couldn,t stop for the intersection, it went though the intersection and up the bank and launched into the sky, flipped in the air and landed on its roof. three people were in the car and not a word from them when i got to them. well , long story short, after police,police resusce, fire arrived and got three people out alive, two went two hospital, all recoverd. i was 18.

i was questioned by the police, i was just driving down the road when this guy passed me, was my story, i wasn,t charged.

that was at a river party down at nepean river ,jackson lane , penrith.

the crazy **** you do when your young.

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Old 30-04-2020, 05:01 PM   #64
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Fast car driving was undertaken all the time from the mid 60s up until around 1980.
Traffic wasn't what it is today so it was much easier and much more common. Drink driving was common up until the mid 80s when it really started to be the wrong thing to do. During the 70s you would always drive home from the pub - it was too far to walk, taxis weren't really an option so you just drove. Again the traffic wasn't as it is today so it was easier, and possibly safer. These days I sit on 100kph on the highways (usually on cruise control) and don't speed anywhere. I very rarely drive even if I have only had one light beer. In hindsight, I was probably lucky to survive but I never had an accident during all of that time. As far as I know, I also still hold the Brisbane (Greenslopes) to Bundaberg record of 1hr 55 mins in a GT. These days you wouldn't even get half way in that time.

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I have heard that story before I may know you.
I know a dude in Bris who set some time to Bundy in a supped up VL turbo, I cant remember the time he did it in but he is an idiot who holds it flat all the way.

I did Camooweal to Darwin in 6hr 10min on a ZX10 Ninja taking it easy just cruse along at the 240 KM/H sweet spot in winter. to hell with summer on a bike out their. but the same trip point to point in 8hr 25min in a VY SS ute taking it easy with cruse control set at 210KM/H in 5th gear with air-con on. not trying any land speed record at all, just taking it easy.

I did not want to spend the night with the local so called people out their, to many story's to tell with them idiots, so I thought f it.
All tho I did do 280KM/H from the border for a bit and the same with the ute I got 260KM/H just to get into the grove and the road she is still cold. but that was 2003 with the car and 1992 with the bike.
I felt fine not stressed out at all.
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Old 30-04-2020, 07:34 PM   #65
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you've obviously never driven a Ford Econovan aka Mazda Bongo (E series van)

remember driving through Gippsland one day when a small wind hit it side on & pushed me across the Highway into oncoming traffic...
Typical 80's van really !
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Fast car driving was undertaken all the time from the mid 60s up until around 1980.
I assume you all know the death toll on australian roads peaked in the late 70's ?

It wasn't slowing the traffic that reduced deaths. It was better cars. Reductions in death rates across the developed world correspond with the deployment (not introduction) of disc brakes, radials, seat belts and passenger "safety cells". Australia lagged because for decades we had one of the oldest fleets in the western world.

Today one of the many cons the state governments try to work on us is the lowering death rate. What they don't want to talk about is the hospitalisations. People still crash at the same rate they always did, but modern cars are more death proof. The number of serious crashes due to excessive speed has not decreased. The number due to inattention has risen signifigantly. This started before smart phones. If everyone in australia suddenly went back to driving Xb falcons but everything else stayed the same our deaths would go right back to 70's levels.
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in my younger days, driving an escort at 100k/h , you knew you were doing 100. the car was shaking the engine was loud and wind noise was loud.

today , cars are heaps nicer to drive, in some cars you are unaware of the speed your traveling.
Yep very good point.

In mine 110 feels so easy to go faster yet growing up in my old Pulsar 110 I was not comfortable.

Especially when quiet cars......
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Huh?
Greece is held the size of Victoria, Italy a bit bigger then Vic, with 2.5x the population of Australia

Australia is a big place with tiny population

France freeways are 130
China's freeways 120
USA people routinely drive 75-90 (mph) but you go to jail overnight if caught DUI (many states) but long arms in car, they're ok.
May I ask what point you are making? I have no idea to be honest.

All I stated was that was my experience in Europe was that driver's are regularly crazy and unpredictable.
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May I ask what point you are making? I have no idea to be honest.

All I stated was that was my experience in Europe was that driver's are regularly crazy and unpredictable.
:- thread is titled fast car driving
:- you don't think Australia is sub standard because you have driven in Europe, and to you they are "crazy and unpredictable"

Australian limits are largely 100-110, Smaller European countries with much larger populations have higher speeds. I can't see how this is substandard, and filling in the dots, I'd suggest they have better standards with respect to the title of the thread. Faster drives more often..

If I watched a video of a P car enthusiest travel a freeway 25 over the speed limit in this country, his car would likely be impounded.
In many European countries this is not the case. (Germany 300km/h)

100s of millions in other countries manage "crazy and unpredictable", some call it "keeping up with the flow". Yet 10s of millions in Oz can't manage to head check nor indicate three or four times before they change lanes.

If the thread title was Reduced speed car driving, I may agree with you on your assertion that Australia is not sub standard....
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Very nice. But my wheels were touching the road.
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No one can just drive a car of bike too fast because one had to build up to an ability of how quick is fine to do such, or one is most likely to become a problem.
One has to get your eye in as well to deal with such, like the best road bike racing track riders can not just not ride at them speeds and take 2 months off and be back in full form.

When I ride dirtbike in the bush I feel like hopeless for a wile and then I get into the groove and it all comes back, but to be real fast you have to ride fast every week end because if you don't you will not be at peek form.
You maybe even Toby Price but if he did not ride for a year and then jumped on the day of the race he would not win.

Look at the Italians they drive like rat bags over their.
Even the Poms drive faster than Australians do.
Look at Asia call that driving just hopeless, not to mention totally stupid as. India is the same rubbish, your putting your life in grave danger and it's somewhat the same in Russia. I would not even go to such a places due to putting myself in such a deal because I am not that ignorant.
Some new age Politically Correct Nazi may take offence to such because they deem it to be racist, oh well better off maimed or dead due to ignorance. it's a perception I have and I don't care for what fools believe regardless.
People now in Australia have a spack attack because someone got caught doing 149KM/H in a Porsche, that's nothing that I would be bothered with in the least. but you will not see me in Asia driving riding or in a bus because I would not put up with that, you can have that, enjoy the insanity.
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