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Old 22-08-2020, 04:06 PM   #1
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Default Compliance plate codes

Ok.. So, thanks to all who have helped me understand the Serial vs VIN number difference..
Now, I am trying to understand and find what the codes mean
Was told its OFF WHITE (Cream) ?
Was told its 4.1.. with GAS.. added or factory, not sure ?
Was told its 3 speed COLUMN AUTO... correct
Was told its BROWN TRIM... correct

So.. armed with a photo of the compliance plate and Google.. I found NOTHING
Nothing matched up, was more centred on XD/XE..
Some info just was just missing altogether..
So hoping someone can clear it up for me here...please

Please reads as follows:
Prefix Body: JG42GJ
Serial No: 21580 C
Model: 45481
Engine: L
Trans: R
Trim: F1
Paint: HP
Seats: 3
Build: May 86
GMV: 2230

Seems to be a lot of conflicting codes in dates and models, that I can't decipher
Hopefully you can

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Old 22-08-2020, 04:33 PM   #2
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Ok.. So, thanks to all who have helped me understand the Serial vs VIN number difference..
Now, I am trying to understand and find what the codes mean
Was told its OFF WHITE (Cream) ?
Was told its 4.1.. with GAS.. added or factory, not sure ?
Was told its 3 speed COLUMN AUTO... correct
Was told its BROWN TRIM... correct

So.. armed with a photo of the compliance plate and Google.. I found NOTHING
Nothing matched up, was more centred on XD/XE..
Some info just was just missing altogether..
So hoping someone can clear it up for me here...please

Please reads as follows:
Prefix Body: JG42GJ
Serial No: 21580 C
Model: 45481
Engine: L 3.3 6 NSW emissions
Trans: R 3 column auto
Trim: F1 Fawn twill cloth
Paint: HP
Seats: 3
Build: May 86
GMV: 2230

Seems to be a lot of conflicting codes in dates and models, that I can't decipher
Hopefully you can

Thanks in advance
Mark
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Old 22-08-2020, 04:39 PM   #3
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Se https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.a...identification and http://www.xfalcon.com/forums/index....n-plate-codes/

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wonder what the HP paint scheme is ?
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Old 22-08-2020, 04:52 PM   #5
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Default Re: Compliance plate codes

Thanks AUSSIEBLUE, I have seen this chart, but it didn't reflect the vehicle
I have.. it seems to have limited info as I can't find the PAINT CODE "HP" nor its TRIM CODE F1..Reason being, I might want to replace some trim parts and respray it to original colour..
I noticed "L" for an engine code, but that's depicted on an XE model, keeping in mind, I have an XF.. that's why it concussing for me, unless there's an OVER LAP in models ??

roKWiz, you seemed to have more progress than I will ever be able too

Thank you all..
If anyone else has more info, would be appreciated

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Old 22-08-2020, 05:28 PM   #6
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Engine: L
https://fordforums.com.au/showpost.p...2&postcount=30
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Model Code Desc Notes
XR C 170CID L/C Taxi only
XR E 170CID n/a Fairmont, Fairlane, GT
XR G 200CID n/a Fairlane, GT
XR I 289CID 2V Falcon 500, Fairmont only
XR K 289CID 4V GT only
XT Q 188CID Low Ocatane Fleet & Export only
XT U 221CID Low Ocatane Fleet & Export only
XT B 188CID Falcon, Ute & Van only
XT S 221CID n/a Fairlane 500 & GT
XT T 302CID 2V n/a Falcon Std & Van
XT Y 302CID 4V GT only
XA/XB G 3.3 1V LC
XA/XB E 3.3 1V HC
XA/XB L 4.1 1V HC
XA/XB J 4.1 1V LC
XA/XB M 4.1 2V HC
XA/XB Y 4.9 2V HC
XA/XB K 5.8 4V HC
XA/XB T 5.8 4V HC HO
XC E 3.3 1V LC
XC N 4.1 1V HC
XC B 4.1 1V LC
XC P 4.9 4V HC
XC T 5.8 4V HC
XD A 3.3 CAST IRON HEAD MC to 1/81
XD S 3.3 ALLOY HEAD MC to 1/81
XD D 3.3 CAST IRON HEAD HC to 1/81
XD V 3.3 ALLOY HEAD HC to 1/81
XD F 4.1 CAST IRON HEAD HC to 1/81
XD W 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC to 1/81
XD P 4.9 HC to 1/81
XD T 5.8 HC to 1/81
XD V 3.3 for MANUAL TRANS from 1/81
XD V 3.3 for AUTO ex NSW from 1/81
XD L 3.3 for AUTO - NSW from 1/81
XD W 4.1 from 1/81
XD P 4.9 HC ex NSW from 1/81
XD B 4.9 HC - NSW from 1/81
XD T 5.8 for MANUAL TRANS from 1/81
XD T 5.8 for AUTO TRANS ex NSW from 1/81
XD H 5.8 for AUTO TRANS - NSW from 1/81
XE L 3.3 ALLOY HEAD MC
XE V 3.3 ALLOY HEAD HC
XE X 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC - NSW
XE W 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC ex NSW
XE Y 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC - EFI
XE B 4.9 HC - NSW
XE P 4.9 HC ex NSW
XE T 5.8 HC
XF B 3.3 ALLOY HEAD HC
XF E 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC
XF L 3.3 ALLOY HEAD MC - NSW
XF V 3.3 ALLOY HEAD HC ex NSW
XF X 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC - NSW
XF W 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC ex NSW
XF Y 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC - EFI
XF T 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC - EFI
XF N 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC 2V
Trans: R
http://www.fordforums.com.au/vbporta...?articleid=723
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Trim: F1
http://www.fordforums.com.au/vbporta...p?articleid=12
XF F1 Fawn Birds Foot Velour (Ghia)
Paint: HP
http://www.fordforums.com.au/vbporta...hp?articleid=6
sorry cant find anything matching a HP paint code may be something else looking similar to HP

bit of other info
http://www.fordforums.com.au/vbporta...?articleid=716
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oh and codes mean little if some ones changed something in its 34 years of life
motor swap for a 4.1 or other
interior swap out (seats)
or even a repaint
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Old 22-08-2020, 05:54 PM   #8
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Just a quick update..
Looking at the GAS plate, it seems to have a different engine installed
Engine No. is different to that of the chassis number..
Not sure if that is standard ?

So there is no confusion, I'll add the photos of all 3 plates..
Makes an interesting fact finding mission to those who are interested

If I had the knowledge and strength I'd try to continue , but just out of hospital and concentration isn't my best friend atm

Here's hoping for a good outcome so I know what I have..
Thanks
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Old 22-08-2020, 06:20 PM   #9
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Here a copy of the Microfiche parts catalog pages but it won't resolve the paint code question. They are a bit hard to read due to the limits on upload sizes so if you PM a email address I will send you easier to read versions.
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This says https://www.touchuppaints.com.au/For...Paint-2789.htm HP is "Hi Performance White" but that colour was not released until 2005.
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oh forgot to add that the 86 XF didnt come with factory gas
youd need to confirm the engine number on the engine , as the gas tank may have come from another vehicle , but if the motors been changed and then gas n tank fitted then according to that engine number the motor came from
J = Australia
L = Broadmeadows
and i guess
44 = Falcon GLS Ute. (JH/JG build).
but as it says JH/JG build
from id guess a June 1990 vehicle

the HP colour still has me stumped unless it was a custom factory order colour
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Hi Guys. I don't really want to steal the thread, but I have several questions, mainly relating to that engine code list.

In the XT section the list shows codes T & Y for the 302 2V & 302 4V (GT) respectively, but most manuals show Y & W for these 2 engines.

Where are the engine codes for XW & XY ?

In XA/XB it lists T as the GT HO engine. AFAIK T was for the 'normal' GT & code H was used for the XA GT HO (even though only 1 car was built). Also in XA/XB it lists K as a 351 4V, but shouldn't that be a 351 2V ?

For XC it lists the 4.1 lo-comp 6-cyl as code B, but the factory workshop manual has to as code J.

The biggest confusion exists in XF (the subject of this thread). The list shows:
XF B 3.3 ALLOY HEAD HC
XF E 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC
XF L 3.3 ALLOY HEAD MC - NSW
XF V 3.3 ALLOY HEAD HC ex NSW
XF X 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC - NSW
XF W 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC ex NSW
XF Y 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC - EFI
XF T 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC - EFI
XF N 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC 2V

This seems to follow the factory parts catalogue, except that code N is not mentioned there.

The XF factory workshop manual is totally different. It lists:
84/85 ADR27B (Leaded)
3.3 litre (Carby) - M
4.1 litre (Carby) - G
4.1 EFI - Y
See post #3 (above)
Unleaded petrol upgrade
86/88 ADR37 (Unleaded)
3.3 litre (Carby) - B
4.1 litre (Carby) - E
4.1 EFI - T

Can anybody clear this up ?

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Hi Guys. I don't really want to steal the thread, but I have several questions, mainly relating to that engine code list.

In the XT section the list shows codes T & Y for the 302 2V & 302 4V (GT) respectively, but most manuals show Y & W for these 2 engines.

Where are the engine codes for XW & XY ?

In XA/XB it lists T as the GT HO engine. AFAIK T was for the 'normal' GT & code H was used for the XA GT HO (even though only 1 car was built). Also in XA/XB it lists K as a 351 4V, but shouldn't that be a 351 2V ?

For XC it lists the 4.1 lo-comp 6-cyl as code B, but the factory workshop manual has to as code J.

The biggest confusion exists in XF (the subject of this thread). The list shows:
XF B 3.3 ALLOY HEAD HC
XF E 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC
XF L 3.3 ALLOY HEAD MC - NSW
XF V 3.3 ALLOY HEAD HC ex NSW
XF X 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC - NSW
XF W 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC ex NSW
XF Y 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC - EFI
XF T 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC - EFI
XF N 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC 2V

This seems to follow the factory parts catalogue, except that code N is not mentioned there.

The XF factory workshop manual is totally different. It lists:
84/85 ADR27B (Leaded)
3.3 litre (Carby) - M
4.1 litre (Carby) - G
4.1 EFI - Y
See post #3 (above)
Unleaded petrol upgrade
86/88 ADR37 (Unleaded)
3.3 litre (Carby) - B
4.1 litre (Carby) - E
4.1 EFI - T

Can anybody clear this up ?

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That can not be right with the 4.1 code. N
This is my data plate
NSW first sold, Feb 93 4.1 unleaded carby, one of the last carby cars built by Ford Aust.



While we are on it anyone know my trim code G1

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That can not be right with the 4.1 code. N
This is my data plate
NSW first sold, Feb 93 4.1 unleaded carby, one of the last carby cars built by Ford Aust.

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While we are on it anyone know my trim code G1

edit... I'll add this emission sticker

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I'm not saying code N doesn't exist, I've seen it on many XFs.

One thing though the code Ns that I've seen were all on 1991 utes & vans. Maybe Ford issued a different code just for those. In those late cars the 4.1 carby was those only engine available. The 3.3 was no more & EFI was never fitted to utes or vans.

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While we are on it anyone know my trim code G1
seeing the sites XF section only goes to 1988
and yours is a 93 but still falls in to the ute van area is still suggest maybe cross referencing from the others from same year from the EB/ED section
http://www.fordforums.com.au/vbporta...p?articleid=13
there are a few G1's for 93 but all are basically Slate Velour
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seeing the sites XF section only goes to 1988
and yours is a 93 but still falls in to the ute van area is still suggest maybe cross referencing from the others from same year from the EB/ED section
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there are a few G1's for 93 but all are basically Slate Velour
Thanks wodah, that makes sense.

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in terms of the HP colour code one can't help thinking that as it is a panel van it might be some corporate livery colour for some company or organisation that ordered a fleet of vans and therefore was able to have them in their corporate colour and the HP is the company's or organisation's initials (e.g Hilton Plumbing, Hewlett Packard, Hostralia Post) . Do you know who/what the original registered owner was?
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So there is no confusion, I'll add the photos of all 3 plates. Makes an interesting fact finding mission to those who are interested
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On the ADR Compliance plate (your "plate 1") is ADR 37 stamped in the list of ADRs, or is it ADR 27B ?

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On the ADR Compliance plate (your "plate 1") is ADR 37 stamped in the list of ADRs, or is it ADR 27B ?

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