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View Poll Results: Has your zf heat exchanger failed? POST 2012 CARS ONLY
No 85 92.39%
Yes - cooling system serviced as per factory, using factory coolant 6 6.52%
Yes - cooling system serviced as per factory using different coolant 0 0%
Yes - cooling system not serviced 1 1.09%
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Old 31-08-2020, 03:40 PM   #211
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Both were stray currents leading to electrolysis

As soon as i cut them open i knew. Didnt bother contacting PWR its not their issue
Stray current if bad enough can kill any component if it's bad enough, we've tested several cars with failed factory heat exchangers and have to see stray current an issue, but I guess it depends on how the mods are done on the car
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Is there a way to reduce the stray current other than changing the coolant regularly?
I use Ford premix coolant which has 33 percent ratio.
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Old 31-08-2020, 03:58 PM   #213
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Is there a way to reduce the stray current other than changing the coolant regularly?
I use Ford premix coolant which has 33 percent ratio.
Thank you.
Stray current is not a cooling system problem, it is an electrical issue that affects the cooling system
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Thanks, aaronm. That could explain why the OEM units fail.
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Thanks, aaronm. That could explain why the OEM units fail.
that was the rumour a few years ago, but tested and proven as a myth in the cases tested
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Coming back to the topic.
You really have two options.
1- Replace your old heat exchanger with a new OEM one if it has not been changed for a few years lets say 3 years max(pray the new OEM one does not fail before you change it again).
Do not buy the expensive PWR heat exchanger as it fails too and you might as well throw your money out of the window (some of it may come back).
2- Remove the old exchanger and fit air2oil cooler.


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The air/oil exchanger fitted in front of my car's radiator has metal to metal contact with the chassis. Wouldn't this remove stray currents as would the metal to metal contacts of the OEM and PWR water/oil units? Is there an auto electrician who can comment, please?
Also, it seems to me some comments MAY be referring to failure of the air/oil mod. Does anyone know of such failures and what was the cause(s). Since milkshakes can not occur are any failures due to leakage or broken hoses? I think neither of which should cause catastrophic failure.
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I had leaking hoses with my air2oil cooler.
It was the clamps.
Cut the hose tiny bit & replaced the clamps.
It is all good.


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The air/oil exchanger fitted in front of my car's radiator has metal to metal contact with the chassis. Wouldn't this remove stray currents as would the metal to metal contacts of the OEM and PWR water/oil units? Is there an auto electrician who can comment, please?
Also, it seems to me some comments MAY be referring to failure of the air/oil mod. Does anyone know of such failures and what was the cause(s). Since milkshakes can not occur are any failures due to leakage or broken hoses? I think neither of which should cause catastrophic failure.
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Old 31-08-2020, 05:24 PM   #219
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I think we're done here. In case anyone has forgotten the topic is Has your ZF milkshaked poll - POST 2012 ONLY. That doesn't mean rehashing old arguments from 3 2/1 tears ago.

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