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Old 05-11-2021, 11:30 AM   #1
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Default Why workers are leaving hospitality and office set up

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Those of you that might work in hospitality or know someone what are your reasons for leaving just as the industry started re opening again and workers were needed.

Trying to work out why there’s constant shortages and why people leave just as it re opens and workers are needed and move to other industries but however can think of a couple long and short term reasons.

Also with the office while you live in a small place with little to no privacy what is a way to have a office setup as good as a school business manager or at the very least a computer area or 2 with a uninterrupted spot where you can have stuff spread out to be able to do business stuff with no interruptions and be able to go back to it later where needed.

Also you know how some people take a laptop or ipad or work to a cafe to do while they have coffee such as business people or people studying what could you do to be able to take stuff and what could be used to carry files and stuff and laptop or ipad.

Sometimes it’d be handy to have something to take files to a cafe while having coffee to do some quick work.

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Old 20-11-2021, 06:09 PM   #2
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Default having a stall at markets and selling stuff and working only business hours

hi everyone.


was wondering what are the clues that its time to change jobs and follow your dreams & what you can do to be able to hang on a bit longer until the time is right.

at moment am working weekends and theres no time for markerts and side sales

what do yous think are reasons people are leaving the hosptality industry just as it started re opening & moving onto other industries, thinking its because when they closed in 2020 workers had to find other work until they could re open & they discovered that they can earn the same probably more money in less time & not as tiring and work loads doubling with people holidaying home creating burnout & the enforcing of requirements only to be abused & after over a decade using the lockdown as a chance to re think.


you might know that a industry thats known for short breaks & hard work & long hours has been made harder during the coronavirus.


will give some examples below.


a chef from the uk changed jobs during the second lockdown after 8 years cooking, he was doing 14 hour days & if he wanted a weekend off he had to work 10 days straight & it was really hard.


a waitess from the uk also left hospitality after months on their job keeper which made her re think her work life balance & said going back to hospitality after months on job keeper was a huge re adjustment & it wasnt easy and the masks were the end of it, now she gets to have a weekend & doesnt do as much over time.


once the time is right am wanting to do part time test & tag which will mean no working weekends or public holidays & maybe have a stall at local markets and sell stuff once every month or 2 but will have to change jobs to make it all happen & at the monent the time isnt right & changing jobs isnt a option & wondered what you could do to hang on until then.


while youre living with someone which you are happy atm doing & you want to collect stuff that you may sell at markets what can you do and where could you store it all while you prepare them for sale without taking up room


wanting to only work standard business hours & maybe now & then sell stuff at markets and at moment time isnt right and have to wait & wondered what you can do to hang on until time is right.


also what are signs that its time to move into your own place even if its atleast do what that person did with his workshop that have been telling yous about to start with & what can you do to have the space & independence until you are able to buy & not pay comparable money in rent when youre limited to what you can have or do to place.
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Old 20-11-2021, 06:41 PM   #3
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Default Re: Why workers are leaving hospitality and office set up

You are only required to work 38 hours per week.
Anything above that is overtime.
People leave a job for many reasons which may include but not limited to.
Family commitments, better pay, better conditions, better work environment, better prospects of advancement, don't have to deal with ****ers etc etc.

In your case working on weekends & not being able to attend markets & side sales would be a good thing, as you would be paid penalty rates for weekend work & not attending sales & markets would mean you would be spending less.
Because after all you are saving for a deposit on a house of your own, aren't you?

https://www.fairwork.gov.au/tools-an...hours#overview

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Old 20-11-2021, 06:49 PM   #4
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Default Re: Why workers are leaving hospitality and office set up

Want to be able to sell stuff at markets once in a while and work weekends and want to get out of hospitality and do something closer to standard business hours as hospitality has gotten worse in last 12 months and need a better work life balance

Why are so many people leaving hospitality and going to other industries just as hospitality re opens

thinking its because when they closed in 2020 workers had to find other work until they could re open & they discovered that they can earn the same probably more money in less time & not as tiring and work loads doubling with people holidaying home creating burnout & the enforcing of requirements only to be abused & after over a decade using the lockdown as a chance to re think.


you might know that a industry thats known for short breaks & hard work & long hours has been made harder during the coronavirus.


will give some examples below.


a chef from the uk changed jobs during the second lockdown after 8 years cooking, he was doing 14 hour days & if he wanted a weekend off he had to work 10 days straight & it was really hard.


a waitess from the uk also left hospitality after months on their job keeper which made her re think her work life balance & said going back to hospitality after months on job keeper was a huge re adjustment & it wasnt easy and the masks were the end of it, now she gets to have a weekend & doesnt do as much over time.
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Old 20-11-2021, 06:50 PM   #5
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And thinking other reason is not knowing if hospitality is going to close again and for how long and people need money
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Old 20-11-2021, 07:19 PM   #6
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What would you intend selling at the markets?
Will the profit gained outweigh the income you would earn working weekends?

YOU need to decide what YOU want to do.
Have you got a better job offer?
If so, make a decision.
If you haven't then maybe start looking around & see what's available.
Sounds like you aren't too excited about your present employment position.
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Old 20-11-2021, 07:24 PM   #7
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Hi

Also was wondering if you want to sell stuff at a market but you can’t because your normal work interferes with it would online sites as in ebay or gumtree or marketplace be a good place.

If you live in small house and with someone where could you store all your items to sell without taking much room.

Would be looking to do it fairly regular (not a lot but often) and usually am on look out for stuff cheap that’s likely sellable and when finding things then usually get them and clean them up ready for sale.

If you get things when they’re cheap that are sellable then would need somewhere to put them and that’s why am wondering what to do to collect bit of stuff to sell at a time and enough for a stall that doesn’t take much room in storage
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Old 20-11-2021, 07:28 PM   #8
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What would you intend selling at the markets?
Will the profit gained outweigh the income you would earn working weekends?

YOU need to decide what YOU want to do.
Have you got a better job offer?
If so, make a decision.
If you haven't then maybe start looking around & see what's available.
Sounds like you aren't too excited about your present employment position.
At moment things are good just planning ahead because oneday it will happen and no one knows when and only hanging on because of current circumstances.

Would be looking to sell bit of secondhand stuff at a market or garage sale and while that usually isn’t a problem it’s storing the things ready for sale and wondered what you could do that doesn’t take up much room in storage.

Only way that can think of is take pictures straight away so items can go in boxes and be stacked on top of each other especially if selling online.

Wouldn’t be heaps and heaps but a bit of stuff
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Old 20-11-2021, 07:28 PM   #9
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And why’s everyone leaving hospitality all at once at moment
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Old 20-11-2021, 08:30 PM   #10
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Default Re: Why workers are leaving hospitality and office set up

they aren't. the worker shortage is because many of those jobs are typically filled by backpackers and foreign students, who simply aren't in the country right now. The business model is flawed. if they paid a decent wage then they'd get staff.
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Old 20-11-2021, 09:14 PM   #11
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Would be looking to sell bit of secondhand stuff at a market or garage sale and while that usually isn’t a problem it’s storing the things ready for sale and wondered what you could do that doesn’t take up much room in storage.

Only way that can think of is take pictures straight away so items can go in boxes and be stacked on top of each other especially if selling online.

Wouldn’t be heaps and heaps but a bit of stuff
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Old 20-11-2021, 10:03 PM   #12
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And it’d just be a hobby atm
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