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Old 05-07-2023, 09:01 PM   #31
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Default Re: Transit 2.0 wet belt issue

Seems these days that these little light diesels can be a never ending worry starting with
that higher initial cost and the unknown service issue that seem to be a constant problem.

Makes me wonder if this will usher in a return to petrol hybrids as a way of getting good city
fuel economy for all those smaller suvs and 4x4 Utes that run around mostly on urban streets
and highways.
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Old 05-07-2023, 09:03 PM   #32
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Seems these days that these little light diesels can be a never ending worry starting with
that higher initial cost and the unknown service issue that seem to be a constant problem.

Makes me wonder if this will usher in a return to petrol hybrids as a way of getting good city
fuel economy for all those smaller suvs and 4x4 Utes that run around mostly on urban streets
and highways.
There's a lot of unleaded Hiluxes getting about, povvo-spec workmate jobs.

But they're the only option on the market I believe,

Ranger hybrid will probably be first to market, will be interesting to see.
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Old 06-07-2023, 09:44 AM   #33
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Seems these days that these little light diesels can be a never ending worry
the amount of $$ invested in the diesel aftertreatment is an embarrassment

as we move to Eu7, hybrid gas is just about the only powerpack that meets the emissions standard, without massively compromising on performance so expect to see a lot more of those come along in the next few years.

Eu7 is still hard. in fact when Eu tried to pull ahead the introduction by 12 months all the manufacturers pushed back as right now, nobody knows how to meet the standard. Even with gas hybrid, it looks like there will need to be massive aftertreatment, like heated catalysts and more NOx sensors....
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Default Re: Transit 2.0 wet belt issue

The trickle-down is going to be interesting in 15 years, both in used vehicle prospects and how people adapt to likely stricture upon travel (cost, and maybe legislation driven).
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In terms of trickle down, as soon as repair cost of complex components > scrap value of car, it's sayonara. With more complex vehicles and expensive battery replacements, it's coming sooner for many late model cars. Edit: ironically, shorter car-life will be worse for the environment as of the energy and material and scrapping cost of having to make them again, sooner)

This will create stricture upon travel and those who keep simple, reliable transport in some form of loophole in future rules will remain unaffected.

For the rest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NbCNA0mAtM

Unless this kind of stuff happens first:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xgB1ep7Iog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XZbFBDzz5A
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