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[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I felt this screenshot from a current Ranger advert was tongue-in-cheek acknowledgement of how these utes are often really used.

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Hatch-ute works alright too, wait until the back seats fold down and I got me a van that does >7L/100km

The worst drivers on the roads come in two varieties:

High vis shirts in dual cab Thailand Specials
Hi vis shirts in shitbox hatchbacks

Originally Posted by prydey

Why is there a mindset that a certain type of vehicle needs to be used a certain way?

Because taxpayer funded incentives for those purposes

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Because taxpayer funded incentives for those purposes

Using emotive language like 'taxpayer funded' is another key argument tool.

Everyone pays tax. How the govt spend it makes absolutely zero difference to me or you having to pay it.

All it does is help motivate the pitchfork wielding folk.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by prydey

Using emotive language like 'taxpayer funded' is another key argument tool.

Everyone pays tax. How the govt spend it makes absolutely zero difference to me or you having to pay it.

All it does is help motivate the pitchfork wielding folk.

Its not emotive, its the truth,

Makes a huge difference on the balance sheet of the country, and at the polls come election time, maybe not in South Australia which receives more in the form of taxpayer subsidy than it contributes, look at the GST share of SA vs VIC/NSW/WA in what it contributes vs what it receives.

WA has a case here but they've also been subsidised by the rest of the country for the last ~120 years until they started contributing in the last 30 or so years.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

image

Hatch-ute works alright too, wait until the back seats fold down and I got me a van that does >7L/100km

The worst drivers on the roads come in two varieties:

High vis shirts in dual cab Thailand Specials
Hi vis shirts in shitbox hatchbacks



Because taxpayer funded incentives for those purposes

I gather you fit the shitbox hatchback variety!

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Its not emotive, its the truth,

Makes a huge difference on the balance sheet of the country, and at the polls come election time, maybe not in South Australia which receives more in the form of taxpayer subsidy than it contributes, look at the GST share of SA vs VIC/NSW/WA in what it contributes vs what it receives.

WA has a case here but they've also been subsidised by the rest of the country for the last ~120 years until they started contributing in the last 30 or so years.

Explain to me how it affects you and the tax you pay.

[Adamz Ghia]

Originally Posted by prydey

Explain to me how it affects you and the tax you pay.

Seen the ambos ramping in Victoria lately? How governments spend our money absolutely affects you.

[Franco Cozzo]

Comparison Hilux vs Isuzu N series



A useful dual cab

[roKWiz]

Was wondering how long it was going to be before Franco posted these.

[lra]

Originally Posted by prydey

Using emotive language like 'taxpayer funded' is another key argument tool.

Everyone pays tax. How the govt spend it makes absolutely zero difference to me or you having to pay it.

How do you feel about the Fed Govt using tax-payers money to bankroll a NRL team in Port Moresby to the tune of $600M, using the excuse it is to stop China getting a foothold in the Pacific.
Every time our current PM goes on a jaunt overseas, he takes a South Sydney NRL jumper and $100M cheque to give away.
The more they give away, the more we have to pay.
"Tax cuts for everybody" ........... what a bad joke. I am on a fixed income, and paying more than I was 5 years ago, while my expenses, i.e. insurance, rego, utilities, food, have all increased.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by lra

How do you feel about the Fed Govt using tax-payers money to bankroll a NRL team in Port Moresby to the tune of $600M, using the excuse it is to stop China getting a foothold in the Pacific.
Every time our current PM goes on a jaunt overseas, he takes a South Sydney NRL jumper and $100M cheque to give away.
The more they give away, the more we have to pay.
"Tax cuts for everybody" ........... what a bad joke. I am on a fixed income, and paying more than I was 5 years ago, while my expenses, i.e. insurance, rego, utilities, food, have all increased.

The point is, tax is a govt income stream. How they spend it makes no difference to me or you.

Using the term 'tax payer funded' is done to make people think the govt is taking extra money from them. Like I said, it's emotive language.

[au2000]

Originally Posted by prydey

The point is, tax is a govt income stream. How they spend it makes no difference to me or you.

Using the term 'tax payer funded' is done to make people think the govt is taking extra money from them. Like I said, it's emotive language.

Although a side note, not necessarily true, vic is a good example of that,

Vic gov.. spend till they are broke, how do they get money?, introduced over 50 NEW taxes, and increased others… while telling victorians they can have it all, we are going with lower education, medical services, roads etc

If governments spend our tax dollars on things that benefit the community, people are good with that, when they waste it on inflated projects or things that have little or no benefit to the community … “insert politician superannuation plan and life time office and staff perks here” then tax payers have every right to be annoyed

Having said that, just saw an article where byd plan to release a full range of tractors to meet small medium and large as in Silverado, f150 and Ram sizes for the Aussie market at up to 30 grand cheaper.. does anyone think such a thing will actually gain traction in sales against ranger and hilux?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by prydey

The point is, tax is a govt income stream. How they spend it makes no difference to me or you.

Using the term 'tax payer funded' is done to make people think the govt is taking extra money from them. Like I said, it's emotive language.

They are,

In the form of tax incentives, which are funded by the tax payer.

Its not emotive language, its the truth

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by au2000

Although a side note, not necessarily true, vic is a good example of that,

Vic gov.. spend till they are broke, how do they get money?, introduced over 50 NEW taxes, and increased others… while telling victorians they can have it all, we are going with lower education, medical services, roads etc

If governments spend our tax dollars on things that benefit the community, people are good with that, when they waste it on inflated projects or things that have little or no benefit to the community … “insert politician superannuation plan and life time office and staff perks here” then tax payers have every right to be annoyed

Agree, a good example is the "newly" introduce Land Tax applied this year.

A tax that was originally for well off investors has turned average Joe owner into a cash cow for the Vic Gov.
This tax was set to cover property over 300K, this year it came all the way down to over 50K.

Conveniently property valued at under 100K was subject to a sudden valuation hike (by guess who, the Vic Gov Valuer general) to now value it over the 100K bringing in a whole new land tax payer to their coffers.

So Governments know how the rub people up the wrong way.

We should be taxing these imports not incentivising them.

[lra]

Originally Posted by prydey

The point is, tax is a govt income stream. How they spend it makes no difference to me or you.

Using the term 'tax payer funded' is done to make people think the govt is taking extra money from them. Like I said, it's emotive language.

If you believe what you have written there, you are just being silly.
I am happy I am not in Victoria.
Who pays for the cost of planning and issuing of contracts for major stuff that is
then cancelled and not done, and then the payment of legal fees and compensation to engineering firms, C'wealth games, etc.
Ooops, forgot ....... it is the Govt's money. They just pull it out of thin air whenever they want some.