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13-07-2006, 05:26 PM | #1 | ||
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hi all,
well i did a search and got a real good result but got a few extra questions now that i need answered please. 1. what head gasket do you reccommend for the 4.0l? head machined and block decked. 2. are all the au series's head gaskets multi layed steel? 3. when using a multi layed au gasket do you need to use au head bolts, or will the e-series bolts do? thanks pete j |
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13-07-2006, 05:32 PM | #2 | ||
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Forget the AU head gaskit. Go with the graphite one, the name of which I can't remember. I have one in my car. I did the head myself in the garage and took it to powercruise a week later and thrashed the craper out of it and haven't had any problems to date.
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13-07-2006, 05:39 PM | #3 | |||
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where abouts would i be able to pay money, inturn recieving this 'graphite head gasket' my good sir? |
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13-07-2006, 06:20 PM | #4 | |||
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13-07-2006, 06:29 PM | #5 | ||
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You should be able to get them from any engineer or engine builder.
I get mine from Browns Engineering in Lawnton because he does my heads and stuff. |
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13-07-2006, 06:46 PM | #6 | |||
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righto then. so i ask for a 'graphite head gasket'? hope they got one cause if not the acl head gascket is going on! |
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13-07-2006, 07:27 PM | #7 | ||
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hey im an automotive machinist/engineer and we only use the graphite gaskets they are very good had no dramas with them, we use durapro ones we get them from precision motorsport only sell to trade. put only straight water in for the first day and then coolant to allow the gasket to seal it self, same goes for all gaskets. hope it helps. durapro also make headbolts and are far better then ford crap.
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13-07-2006, 07:37 PM | #8 | |||
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13-07-2006, 07:48 PM | #9 | ||
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yes the new bolts will be ok as long as they are new the durapro ones just have the thread 3/4 of the bolt and the ford 1's about a 1/4 having more thread shifts the load point of the bolt and therefor its stronger. and after the day of running with water drop it when its cool and then put good coolant i recommend tectaloy's anti freeze anti boil. and the thermostat i recomm is a 170 not 195 like they recommend.
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13-07-2006, 07:50 PM | #10 | ||
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trade price the bolts either permaseal or durapro they are only $22 how much are fords?
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13-07-2006, 07:53 PM | #11 | |||
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13-07-2006, 08:04 PM | #12 | ||
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umm a longer surviving head gasket i believe sir. they run at about 97degrees which is dam hot i have a xr8 and i had a 180 now have a 160 and its more responsive. that is why when your engine is getting to 97 and its about 80 it feels more snappier under throttle. and it also helps your computer stay more stable with tuning side and keeps engine obviously cooler which means less heat soak and cooler inlet manifold. you might not think 15 degrees isnt much but that 15deg could mean overheating or not. just my findings. ford ran these engines hotter to get good economy same as light oils they dont do it to benifit you only themselves.
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13-07-2006, 08:33 PM | #13 | |||
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13-07-2006, 09:12 PM | #14 | ||
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fahrenheit: 195 = 91celsius plus about 5 deg so about 96celsius
: 170 = 75celsius plus about 5 so its only 80 deg much safer and still hot enough to regard as normal op temp. will still be in the normal on guage. |
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14-07-2006, 07:08 AM | #15 | ||
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Oh thanks neisha, it's good to have a guy like you around who know's his business and is also willing to share. Thanks mate, very helpfull.
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14-07-2006, 07:22 AM | #16 | ||
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Are you able to get these graphite gaskets in thicker than normal for decompressing..? Otherwise im stickin with the two AU headgaskets
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14-07-2006, 06:43 PM | #17 | ||
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i went to the engineering place that did me block and they gave me an ACL head gasket set (not sure about it either). but he said it was the graphite based head gasket. i had a look on the ACL web site and it says they do multi layed steel, graphite, and some other type head gasket. its a monotorque brand so what do you think?
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14-07-2006, 10:49 PM | #18 | ||
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we have used monotorque ones before and had no dramas but im not sure if its 100% graphite just have a look at it and see if it looks shiney dark grey and has like little flakes on the edges. acl from mem have the water jacket blue beads around them to help it to stick.
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22-07-2006, 10:21 PM | #19 | ||
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well i have bought the standard replacement, multi layered AU and the graphite head gasket. just deciding on which one to use. if i go the AU head gasket is it just a straigt install or does it need a sealent?
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23-07-2006, 10:45 AM | #20 | ||
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how much for the graphite one? Last AU gasket install i witnessed, dude lightly coated it in that gold stuff (hysol maybe? not sure) but i think it was on the block side only
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23-07-2006, 06:03 PM | #21 | ||
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Use the AU gasket, and never have to do another one again.
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23-07-2006, 07:14 PM | #22 | ||
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yeah i think i'll go the au head gasket. what sorta sealent do you use on it, if any?
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24-07-2006, 12:21 AM | #23 | ||
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use the au one... no sealants.
i used a graphite acl race one a while ago, it was s.hit, leaked coolant in 5days, threw in the bin and fitted the au one... bobs ya uncle oh, and my car, even with the turbo, coolant temp sits on 90-92 deg. you must have had a blocked radiator for it to sit on 97deg....
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