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Old 22-08-2006, 01:25 AM   #1
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Default Problems fitting 19" wheels with 255 rubber to lowered ED

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I've bought a set of 19 x 8 wheels, they have 19/35/255 profile on them. The width of the tyres seem to be too wide for the front, as they rub against the balljoints, even when the car is jacked up.. so it's worse when off the jack. Wish i had've taken some photos would've been easier to explain it. The car sits pretty low with my current 18's as you can see in the pic(btw car isnt black, i wish), i'm hoping i dont have to raise the car just to fit these 19's as i'm happy with the ride height. Anyway I'll be having the front ones replaced with 235's (if possible on 8" rim?) which should hopefully solve the problem. They sit nicely at the rear though, but the gaurds still need to be lipped, which i'll be arranging to have done for the weekend. I'll take some pics once there all on the car.

Has anyone here experienced this problem? What size tyres are you guys running with your 19's?

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Old 22-08-2006, 01:28 AM   #2
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i'm pretty sure the same problem happens at the front with 245's and bigger on most rims.
i'm pretty sure 235's on the front will solve it
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Old 22-08-2006, 01:38 AM   #3
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Raising it isnt going to stop it rubbing on the upper ball joint, 235s should be fine though
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Old 22-08-2006, 07:25 AM   #4
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I have 245 on the front on 17's no prob's.

Didn't you think to check for fitmet prior to purchase?

If you are rubbing the wall of the tyre on the ball joint, this is very dangerous.
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Old 22-08-2006, 08:47 AM   #5
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My mate has 255 17's on his sprint with no clearance issues.
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Old 22-08-2006, 08:50 AM   #6
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I think maybe the offset of the wheels could be more the issue then the size of the tyres.
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Old 22-08-2006, 10:11 AM   #7
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I didn't think there would be much difference between 255 and 245, that's why i'm planning on having them replaced with 235's. But would 235's fit an 8" rim?
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LTDHO: Didn't you think to check for fitmet prior to purchase?
If you are rubbing the wall of the tyre on the ball joint, this is very dangerous.
The ball joint isn't actually rubbing on the inner wall of the tyre, it's rubbing on the top edge, as you can see in the dodgy pic i just made up (no there not 4 spokes lol). Where the dotted lines are is where it rubs, which is like 2cm off the edge.. think it was 2.1 to be exact. The guys are happy to replace the tyres with smaller ones so they should be on by the weekend hopefully.

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EA2BA: I think maybe the offset of the wheels could be more the issue then the size of the tyres.
There made to fit pre AU so they go straight on, unlike my current 18's that need spacers. Hope it works out. I'll keep you posted. Thanks for your input.

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Old 22-08-2006, 10:36 AM   #8
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im running 19 inch wheels with 245 all round and they are fine. PLENTY of clearence.i think perhaps the offset is stuffed up. i belive i could run 265 at the back no worries. but any bigger than 245 on front would start to become an issue.

i have an ef by the way, and its pretty dam low too.
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What profile are they?
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Old 22-08-2006, 10:56 AM   #10
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Old 22-08-2006, 03:32 PM   #11
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I think maybe the offset of the wheels could be more the issue then the size of the tyres.
My money's on this horse. I'm running 245x45x19's on my EF with wheel adapters. They are AU offset. The tyres hit without the adapters, with the adapters no probs.
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Old 22-08-2006, 05:45 PM   #12
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Sam, have you got pics of the 19s?? Can't wait to see the results!
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Old 22-08-2006, 05:54 PM   #13
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I don't know if the width of the tyre is the problem, more the profile.

if the tyre is rubbing on the top ball joint (and im visualising correctly what is happening under the car) then IMHO the diameter of the tyre is too big.

so if a 235 has a smaller rolling diameter (due to lower profile sidewall) than the current 255s, it would help to fit the 235. If the profiles are the same (and i'm talking in millimeters here, not percent) then you won't gain anything.
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Old 22-08-2006, 06:57 PM   #14
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Hey SB4.

My Skyline has 235/45 18 on an 18x9 rim, the side walls are slightly stretched out, but work fine. I think 235 is the ideal tire size for an 8" wide rim....I do have the list somewhere.

Oh.....By the way.....What you doing with the old wheels ?? ;)
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Old 22-08-2006, 08:29 PM   #15
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Roosta has 245's on 19's on his ED with no problems at all.
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Old 22-08-2006, 09:00 PM   #16
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its the offset, you can fit 19inch simmons with no wories
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Old 22-08-2006, 09:41 PM   #17
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TIKFD6: Roosta has 245's on 19's on his ED with no problems at all.
Glad to hear that. Looks like it'll be 235 or 245's then. Sweet as!
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Oh.....By the way.....What you doing with the old wheels ??
Old wheels i will be putting up for sale.

One thing i wonder though, is how Gmkila(<--i think thats what his username was) put 20's on his ED Ghia. Looks wicked!
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Old 22-08-2006, 10:18 PM   #18
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Hey,

As TIKFD6 said.. i running 245/35r19 all good except on full steering lock..

He is a pic of my mates EB running 20" Fully Sick Rims.. Sorry for dodge picks.. off my phone..

http://www.fordforums.com.au/photos/...cat=500&page=1
http://www.fordforums.com.au/photos/...cat=500&page=1

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Old 22-08-2006, 10:31 PM   #19
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im running 245s all round right now and theyre fine... I useto have 265s on the back, the only problem i had with them was that they hit the guard every time i went over a bump.
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i have 20's had to **** around alot to get em on front 235.35r20
rear 255.35r20
had fr19's on before the 20's fitted up no probs had 9 inch rear and 7 inch fronts
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have a look in the car manual, it explains the suggested tyre size for different types of vehicles (wagon, 6cyl, v8 ). It will display the minimum size you should have on a car and the max width you should have to. I know for a V8 the max on the front is 235 and the max on the back are 255's and thats exactly what i got on my car at the moment. I think the max size for a 6cyl is 220's, not 100% sure. Its all in the original manual that you get with the car. Hopes this helps

Also the max load the manual indicates requires the wheel arches to be folded over or else you will graze the arches if your car is lowered. I had to do it on my car, a massive graze on the front right hand side of my car.
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