2011 Ford Focus Sport, Transmission Shudders :(

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by vztrt

and the biggest seller in the market is?

Best doesn't sell, perceived image does. Hence why Toyota dominate and any poo flung at VW doesn't stick.

Given he is going to look at another car and raised Elantra or Mazda 3 I'm just suggesting he looks at the 3 SP25.

I don't think he is in the market for a Corolla lol.

[JG33]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Given he is going to look at another car and raised Elantra or Mazda 3 I'm just suggesting he looks at the 3 SP25.

I'm leaning more to Elantra, price wise and a little more roomier for the rear passengers than Mazda 3 .
SP25 looks nice but not really wanting to spend that kind of money.

[mik]

Originally Posted by SpoolMan

Its been going on for a long time now, with the only fix is to keep replacing the clutch with the same parts that keeps failing, once your warranty is done your on your own.
I well known Ford dealer in the North are set-up to do 4 clutch changes everyday on the DSG trans.

Perhaps ford might be able to do change over assemblies, most of the time seems to be in going through all the intricate Work in the clutch mechanism, that would speed up the process a bit,
for the little mechanics shop it might still be a problem if they don't have all the computer bizzo to set it up ?

[SpoolMan]

Originally Posted by mik

Perhaps ford might be able to do change over assemblies, most of the time seems to be in going through all the intricate Work in the clutch mechanism, that would speed up the process a bit,
for the little mechanics shop it might still be a problem if they don't have all the computer bizzo to set it up ?

The problem still exists it doesn't matter how man times they fix the clutch, its back to the same issue.
Unfortunately there a dud unless there is a real fix other than constant a ongoing replacement of parts.
There will never be any joy for DSG owners, that's why we got rid of ours they have an awful reputation in a short space of time.
Once out of warranty the cost for the consumer is going to hefty, and resale is woeful.

[Imolator]

Originally Posted by SpoolMan

The problem still exists it doesn't matter how man times they fix the clutch, its back to the same issue.
Unfortunately there a dud unless there is a real fix other than constant a ongoing replacement of parts.
There will never be any joy for DSG owners, that's why we got rid of ours they have an awful reputation in a short space of time.
Once out of warranty the cost for the consumer is going to hefty, and resale is woeful.

This is the very reason I have trading my Focus S Powershift, just waiting for my new car to arrive in Port Kembla tomorrow. These transmissions were rushed to market with insufficient development done.

They are already on the 5th revision of the clutches with people still complaining about the same issues.

[mik]

Originally Posted by SpoolMan

The problem still exists it doesn't matter how man times they fix the clutch, its back to the same issue.
Unfortunately there a dud unless there is a real fix other than constant a ongoing replacement of parts.
There will never be any joy for DSG owners, that's why we got rid of ours they have an awful reputation in a short space of time.
Once out of warranty the cost for the consumer is going to hefty, and resale is woeful.

yes its a bit of a shame that ford didn't just have same packaged car with an reliable 6 speed auto ....the old and proven slush box style with flappy paddles, these cars would have been on top of the pack.

[JG33]

Originally Posted by JG33

Well, done over 63,000k's and the shuddering problem is back as well as having a faulty reading on the fuel gauge. Having the issue sorted this week and will be trading it in for another car next week (had enough). It's a toss up between Hyundai Elantra or Mazda 3.

Only way I'll keep the Focus if Ford replaces the transmission with a brand new fluid type auto with a torque convertor.

Otherwise they can jam the DCT up the idiot who came up with the idea.

Got the Focus back, a faulty purge tank apparently was preventing the car from filling up past 3/4 tank so they replaced the fuel tank and waiting for a second clutch which will be a few months away.
Not bad, a 2 1/2 year old car with almost 64000k on the clock and I had both rear door interior panels replaced, fuel tank replaced, clutch replaced with a second one due and a battery....Well done FORD!!!

No matter, just placed a deposit on a new Elantra......painful experience over.

[C0ncrete]

Taking mine in again, has the latest revision clutch which was replaced in November last year. They didnt replace the seal with the latest revision and as per the video linked a few pages back, I'm inclined to think this is where the issues arise from.

Car was a dream to drive in the weeks immediately after the clutch replacement.I actually looked forward to driving it. Now it back to its usual violent shudder.

Im asking that the seal be replaced as the full TSB followed.

Once I get it back I will be selling it an getting a new vehicle.

Do the new VW's / Golfs still have transmission issues?

Also looking at a Mazda 6.

[Franco Cozzo]

Mazda has a regular 6sp slushbox, no DSG

[RedChris]

Do the new Golfs still have transmission problems? They are improved but some people still have issues with the 7 speed dry clutch DSG. If you must go VW, make sure you get one with the 6 speed DSG (i.e. diesel or higher performance).

Mazda? Generally pretty safe buying

[kevino]

I drive VW transporter vans with a 7 speed dsg. They have done 87000-145000kms -no trouble -but if left in drive mode will drop into the top 2 gears, 6 and 7 and lug around at 1100-1200rpm, we just leave them in sport mode.

[SpoolMan]

Originally Posted by C0ncrete

Do the new VW's / Golfs still have transmission issues?

There DSG had a world wide voluntary recall, VW changed the synthetic trans oil to mineral oil.
I know 3 people who have a Golf and haven't reported any issues.

http://volkswagenaustralia.com.au/DS...taryrecall/faq
http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news...0#.VS48vJOVNIY

[fiestaz]

Sooooo many focus' are going to end up on the used car market as a result of this. They will pile up big time. No one will want them.

so unfortunate...

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by fiestaz

Sooooo many focus' are going to end up on the used car market as a result of this. They will pile up big time. No one will want them.

so unfortunate...

Takes so many years to build up a reputation and a few months to ruin it forever.

[Binny]

Hmmm. I wonder how long before we see a Destroy My Focus campaign?

[PDB1957]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Takes so many years to build up a reputation and a few months to ruin it forever.

Mines been back 5 times
oil soaked clutch replaced 4 times
Still shudders dealer now quoting TSB1414 within specs.
Wont give me a copy of TSB
Fordcare is just plain PR BS
Gonna have a bonfire real soon

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Binny

Hmmm. I wonder how long before we see a Destroy My Focus campaign?

You would figure with the shudder it will fall apart on itself.

[PDB1957]

Originally Posted by Binny

Hmmm. I wonder how long before we see a Destroy My Focus campaign?

It might be happening sooner than later
Web site under currently development
I will be looking for sponsors soon

[RedChris]

Hmmmmm, before you decide to totally trash the Focus' reputation, spare a thought for those of us who bought a manual or a diesel... maybe just stick with the gearbox (and Sync) issues?

I understand the anger, saw lots of it on VWWatercooled over DSG issues (used to have a VW group car), but the best outcomes are to be had by focusing (excuse the pun) on the specific issues. Ford needs to find a permanent fix for the gearbox, not the whole car.

VW Aus suddenly became much more responsive through the Age publicity. Whether they got their facts right or not, the Age pushed VW to offer much more to owners than they were evidently going to.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by PDB1957

It might be happening sooner than later
Web site under currently development
I will be looking for sponsors soon

If you're going to do something how much do you want to put a big "Sponsored by Big Damo from AFF" sticker go to on the car?

[In Focus]

Mrs In Focus has a 2014 Focus that's very smooth and trouble free. Actually, I think it's smoother than the DSG in my car. She also had no trouble in the DCT 2010 Fiesta before that. So they're not all bad, although it does, anecdotally, seem to be a technology with a higher rate of problems than "traditional" torque converter automatics. Anyone know if CVT's have a better reputation?

[mik]

Originally Posted by In Focus

Mrs In Focus has a 2014 Focus that's very smooth and trouble free. Actually, I think it's smoother than the DSG in my car. She also had no trouble in the DCT 2010 Fiesta before that. So they're not all bad, although it does, anecdotally, seem to be a technology with a higher rate of problems than "traditional" torque converter automatics. Anyone know if CVT's have a better reputation?

i asked the same question on a forum some time ago about CVT trannys, if i recall the answers correctly and if you believe dudes on the internet, they in general are not too bad, but still dont last like a the old conventional slush box.

i have no legit data to say one way or the other , but thats my take on it too.

[SpoolMan]

Our Nissan Qashqai 7000 klm the CVT is so very smooth, having the car for 4 months I don't drive it a lot, its very nice to drive and my wife loves it.
Top Gear UK rated the Qashqai as the best CVT they had tested.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by SpoolMan

Our Nissan Qashqai 7000 klm the CVT is so very smooth, having the car for 4 months I don't drive it a lot, its very nice to drive and my wife loves it.
Top Gear UK rated the Qashqai as the best CVT they had tested.

Its interesting that the Pathfinder one had many shudder dramas....and about 10 fixes to it.

[SpoolMan]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Its interesting that the Pathfinder one had many shudder dramas....and about 10 fixes to it.

Its not the same CVT.

[narooma98]

waiting for replacement clutch was told 4-6 weeks 6 weeks ago at the time was 1235 clutches on back order now 6 weeks on is now 1735 and still none in Australia Disgraceful Ford its ashame we love our LW SPORT but cant wait to get rid of it and go back to the OLD FAITHFULL FALCON

[alokin123]

Originally Posted by narooma98

waiting for replacement clutch was told 4-6 weeks 6 weeks ago at the time was 1235 clutches on back order now 6 weeks on is now 1735 and still none in Australia Disgraceful Ford its ashame we love our LW SPORT but cant wait to get rid of it and go back to the OLD FAITHFULL FALCON

Thats disgraceful, and thats a hell of clutches on back order. they might as well have just done a recall.

[Nesbit]

I was able to get my clutches replaced quicker as my dealer decided (after a heated discussion) that my car was V.O.R (vehicle off road) and seemingly Ford act on these as a priority. It was turned around within 1 week, took 2 days to do the replacement and so far so good.

[PDB1957]

Originally Posted by narooma98

waiting for replacement clutch was told 4-6 weeks 6 weeks ago at the time was 1235 clutches on back order now 6 weeks on is now 1735 and still none in Australia Disgraceful Ford its ashame we love our LW SPORT but cant wait to get rid of it and go back to the OLD FAITHFULL FALCON

Thankyou for the information.
That explains why they were reluctant when I took the focus to the dealer on 15/04/2015 for the fifth clutch ( yes the shudder is back ) that the feedback I got from Dealer and Ford Customer Care that it was within specifications ( quoted TSB 1414 When I asked for a copy of TSB1414 I was refused.
ITS TRULY AMAZING THAT BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 2014 AND START OF APRIL 2015 THE FOCUS HAD NO SHUDDER WHAT SO EVER AND PERFORMED COMPLETELY FAULT FREE

It seems Ford only have a temporary fix for this reoccurring problem and cant keep op the supply of replacement clutches.

Sooner or later this vehicle is going to cause an accident as it occasionally hops across an intersection like a scared rabbit.

My website DESTROY THE FOCUS is nearly ready undergoing testing of VPN and Russian server, and links to Facebook, Selling Dealer and Twitter.

I tried to trade the Focus in at another manufactures dealership.
$ 8000 for a 06/2013 Trend with 30000 k.
It seems the word is out

[alokin123]

Originally Posted by PDB1957

Thankyou for the information.
That explains why they were reluctant when I took the focus to the dealer on 15/04/2015 for the fifth clutch ( yes the shudder is back ) that the feedback I got from Dealer and Ford Customer Care that it was within specifications ( quoted TSB 1414 When I asked for a copy of TSB1414 I was refused.
ITS TRULY AMAZING THAT BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 2014 AND START OF APRIL 2015 THE FOCUS HAD NO SHUDDER WHAT SO EVER AND PERFORMED COMPLETELY FAULT FREE

It seems Ford only have a temporary fix for this reoccurring problem and cant keep op the supply of replacement clutches.

Sooner or later this vehicle is going to cause an accident as it occasionally hops across an intersection like a scared rabbit.

My website DESTROY THE FOCUS is nearly ready undergoing testing of VPN and Russian server, and links to Facebook, Selling Dealer and Twitter.

I tried to trade the Focus in at another manufactures dealership.
$ 8000 for a 06/2013 Trend with 30000 k.
It seems the word is out

the trade in price alone is cause for concern. Can't wait for the website.


i have a focus sport (2012) model, i had my clutch replaced close to a year ago. When i got it back it was great, it drove better than when i got it new. Slowly but surely it started jumping and lurching and when at low speeds i could hear and feel the shudder.

In any case, an auto should be a smooth drive, i dont care what anyone says.

On a possibly related point, for some reason it seems to be a hell of a lot worse when i use E10 fuel, since i have put non E10 its been better but not great. I even saw on another thread that tyre pressure seemed to reduce the symptoms. Is there any logical reason for any of this?

In any case, i have to do a lot of driving in the 0-60km/h range and this car is just awful for that purpose.