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Old 13-08-2013, 02:51 PM   #301
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The thing I found interesting was they mention 11 nameplates by 2017.
Fiesta, focus, Kuga, Everest, mustang, ranger, transit, mondeo, possible explorer (rebadged as territory) and ecosport.

So we have 10 nameplates past 2016, what would be the other model? Large Car to replace falcon or maybe small sports coupe?
take your pick. there's Ka, B-max, C-max and S-max already in RHD
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thats what I was thinking watching it, seemed like damage control more than anything.
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So they confirmed what we already knew about the Mustang.

The next Falcon teaser was another confirmation of the design direction that we knew as well.

Was there anything mentioned about the Territory update?
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That was some serious heavy hitters for what was basically a pretty basic PR event that announced nothing in particular.
I wouldn't say that. Seeing what will most likely be the final design of the Everest/Ranger SUV is a big deal. A global reveal of any new car is a big deal in my book.

Also showing a bit more detail of the Falcon is good, as it will help silence some of the naysayers, whilst some more info and detail would have been better, I can understand why they didn't show more. As someone who intends to put his money where his mouth is and buy one, the event has done what it intended to do and retained my interest. What is going to make the difference is what they do to follow on from this.
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If ever there was a vehicle they should be manufacturing here for our market and export it would be the Everest.
A new model Territory could also easily be made to slot in between the Everest and EcoSport.

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I think the Everest will see the demise of the Territory. Do we really need a small, medium large and larger SUV from Ford? Probably not.
I do like the look of the Everest, far more purposeful than the Terri.

Looks like the Falcon is going to adopt a fair few styling cues from the Mondeo.
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I think the Everest will see the demise of the Territory. Do we really need a small, medium large and larger SUV from Ford? Probably not.
I do like the look of the Everest, far more purposeful than the Terri.

Looks like the Falcon is going to adopt a fair few styling cues from the Mondeo.
Ford said they were going to double the amount of SUVs they sell from 2 to 4.
Ecosport, Kuga, Territory and Everest.
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I think the Everest will see the demise of the Territory. Do we really need a small, medium large and larger SUV from Ford? Probably not.
I do like the look of the Everest, far more purposeful than the Terri.
I, for one, will be looking at replacing the Territory with Everest when the time comes. Would be nice to do some outback touring in something a little bit more comfortable than my GQ Patrol. Will still keep the Patrol for the hard stuff however.

Have been a little reluctant to use the Territory outback and this was reinforced last trip when i hit a kangaroo at 110km/h. Bounced off the bullbar of the Patrol, would have made a big mess of the territory
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Old 13-08-2013, 03:19 PM   #309
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Ford said they were going to double the amount of SUVs they sell from 2 to 4.
Ecosport, Kuga, Territory and Everest.
I find the quote interesting, the Terri will go, but that drops a line, will something come in its place to make up the 4?? As they said the Everest will be more offroad orientated, will a soft roader replace Terri? Edge/Explorer....???
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Ford said they were going to double the amount of SUVs they sell from 2 to 4.
Ecosport, Kuga, Territory and Everest.
Ecosport, Kuga, Everest, Explorer/edge.
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Nice quote really except that in my opinion the decline of the large sedan segment, in this country at least, has been borne out of a lack of interest from the company itself or at least from Ford HQ in USA. If a company shows a lack of authority and planning for models guess what, the product dies.
The Falcon sedan as a product in comparison to what's on the platter in the USA is batting well above average in my books and always has for a rear wheel drive large sedan.
I thought the idea of One Ford was ideally to be inclusive....not exclusively what is shoved down our throats from US and the US speakers today.
A US company they may be but I am not American and as an AUSSIE I would have appreciated at least 1 AUSSIE speaker thanks.
I'm not trying in any way to change your views because you are entitled to them, but I wonder if you have thought about which came first, the lack of sales leading to a lack of advertising or a lack of advertising leading to a lack of sales?

I think it is the former and not the latter, and I'll tell you why. If one company decides not to promote its wares in a particular segment, other manufacturers (assuming they have the capacity and desire to do so) will tend to fill that void. In this case, neither Holden, Toyota or any other large sedan importer has filled that void. If, as you suggest, Ford made a conscious decision to not promote the product to drive sales down, why is the large sedan segment as a whole failing when compared to where it used to be, and why are the smaller car segments now far more competitive than they used to be?

I think the manufacturers in this country have finally realised that the segment they have set up their manufacturing for is not the market dominant segment that they had forecast.

On the globalisation point, the reason behind globalisation is to leverage off the global community that we now find ourselves in these days. It would not have been possible when these markets were originally established. Unfortunately for some, when rationalisation occurs, some overlapping or competing models will have to disappear. Again, I am a huge fan of the Falcon, and as sad as I am to see it go when it does, I can understand the business reasoning as to why it is the one to go.

Globalisation does not mean that we (Ford) pick one model from each market to then manufacture and export to the remaining markets. It means picking the best mix of platforms that you can manufacture at the best cost to maximise your profit across your market areas. This is not about being fair or equal, it is about doing what is best for the business to prosper and continue to be a viable operation for as many years to come as possible. Sometimes that means some parts of the target audience are upset because their personal preference is not catered for.

I understand your point about the Aussie speaker. Perhaps the other way to look at this though is that Ford (the global company) thought that this presentation was of significant enough importance to warrant sending out some execs from the US. And I take it that most of the senior exec positions here is Aus are probably filled by Americans as well, so I wouldn't feel comfortable having the non-senior execs presenting.

Anyway, I think I've said enough about my alternate views. How about we agree to disagree and discuss the positives of what was presented.

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Old 13-08-2013, 03:31 PM   #312
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The last Falcon :( man Im sad....
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I've seen a lot more than that teaser, it exists, it is happening.
So the teaser image is an accurate representation of how the 2014 Falcon will look? If so, then, just WOW! Makes the VF look average by comparison.
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Have been a little reluctant to use the Territory outback and this was reinforced last trip when i hit a kangaroo at 110km/h. Bounced off the bullbar of the Patrol, would have made a big mess of the territory
Does your Territory have a bull bar...??
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Old 13-08-2013, 03:38 PM   #315
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I think rightly they spoke nothing of v8 supercars.
Its advertising to who buy only a few cars. And an image they want to get away from obviously.
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I watched the Ford live broadcast of their future offerings for Australia. A few Americans came along and said that we will be happy with their new offerings and I guess expected us to accept that the AUSSIE car is DEAD.
And (once again) promised to us "the very best customer experience" by CEO Alan Mulally.

I wonder if this has been communicated to the CRC... In my experience they are dead set useless!
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Does your Territory have a bull bar...??
No but even if it did, given the roo hit the Patrol at headlight height it would have landed on top of the bar and on the bonnet if the territory had a bar.

I hope that the Everest in time becomes as easily modifiable (is that a word?) as the Ranger with bullbars, suspension etc. This is a bit of a difficult area with the territory, particulary if you want to put in some suspension lift
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The styling looks like a fusion of Taurus SHO, upcoming Mondeo, and FG MK2. Interesting.
That was my impression too. That's what I always thought the FG design lacked - aggression. IMHO, a Falcon should look unapologetically aggressive.
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I dont care if the presenters are all Yanks or Bulgarians. Are you going to sleep with them or marry them?

The Ford Falcon doesnt have an accent.
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Also the video is available in its entirety here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6zxUYJZ-S0
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I find the quote interesting, the Terri will go, but that drops a line, will something come in its place to make up the 4?? As they said the Everest will be more offroad orientated, will a soft roader replace Terri? Edge/Explorer....???

New generation Edge will replace Territory IMO.
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The thing I found interesting was they mention 11 nameplates by 2017.
Fiesta, focus, Kuga, Everest, mustang, ranger, transit, mondeo, possible explorer (rebadged as territory) and ecosport.

So we have 10 nameplates past 2016, what would be the other model? Large Car to replace falcon or maybe small sports coupe?
Transit had 2 nameplates - Custom and Cargo.
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Looks like the Falcon is going to have DRL in the headlights - very nice touch
Im really excited - its got a Audi-esque feel to it, very upper market
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Good link on Drive (of all places!) to the Falcon presentation and still pics today: http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/n...813-2rtpf.html
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take your pick. there's Ka, B-max, C-max and S-max already in RHD
Or the Taurus. A one ford RHD version perhaps? The sneak peak of the new falcon does look like the taurus a bit to me - from the little I've seen of it.
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Looks like the Falcon is going to have DRL in the headlights - very nice touch
Im really excited - its got a Audi-esque feel to it, very upper market
I am not here to be negative, and am happy that you like DRL. But I (insert lots of swearwords here) HATE THEM. I can't be the only one!!!!! About as poxy as putting Neon lights under your cars in the 80s.
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why do all the cars have the same grill!! God damn even the transit van has it!
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