Depression, Anxiety

[Tui2]

rapid axe wishes he could just curl up in my undies somedays, isn't that just the most flattering comment I've recieved since breaking up with my fiancé 6 months ago, keep it up and i may just convert , all ingood humour with good company

[Road Games]

Hey guys we all may have a different chemical imbalance but i have been road testing some medication to take my mind off certain cravings...

Get down to the chemist and buy some THOMPSON'S Stress Manager tablets

Recommended Highly !

[paule11]

One thing when I was stressed out that was good for me was acupuncture.Would go to my doctor and remember one time having a headache and it was gone in a few minutes used to have needles in my head and back worked well .cleared the mind Have not thought about that till I read this thread tonight

[Road Games]

Sorry forgot pic's...

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by DAZZLR

Hey guys we all may have a different chemical imbalance but i have been road testing some medication to take my mind off certain cravings...

Get down to the chemist and buy some THOMPSON'S Stress Manager tablets

Recommended Highly !

I'll back that up.^^^^
My wife's natural therapist rates that stuff highly! Good natural mood enhancer!
But it reacts with antidepressants if your allready on them.
It also has a very similar sedative effect to Valium and the natural '5HTP' I mentioned earlier in the thread!
It's another way of naturally getting your body to make and release its own Serotonin again.(your brains happy drug)

[Tui2]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

I'll back that up.^^^^
My wife's natural therapist rates that stuff highly! Good natural mood enhancer!
But it reacts with antidepressants if your allready on them.
It also has a very similar sedative effect to Valium and the natural '5HTP' I mentioned earlier in the thread!
It's another way of naturally getting your body to make and release its own Serotonin again.(your brains happy drug)

yeah have to be careful if you r taking ssri's..Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors as i did ger Serotonin Syndrome a couple of years ago, high temp, poo through the eye of a needle, but the suden major agitation n uncoordinated typical motions is how i got diagnosed when telling GP that i didn't like the Tegretol cause it made me feel that way,,, whichbi was only just started on trial with back 8 year ago mixed with Epilim for mood stabilisation. well i obviously produced too much happy juice IE Serotonin Syndrome

[Road Games]

Holy multi post batman

[SYZ]

Originally Posted by DAZZLR

Hey guys we all may have a different chemical imbalance but i have been road testing some medication to take my mind off certain cravings...

Get down to the chemist and buy some THOMPSON'S Stress Manager tablets.

Recommended Highly!

It's pleasing that these work for you, but I'd just like to add a warning they include with products of this sort: Individuals who are using prescribed anti-depressants or suffer from bipolar depression should not use this product unless under supervision of a healthcare practitioner.

[Tui2]

Originally Posted by DAZZLR

Holy multi post batman

i have a mental disorder, , which is no excuse for being useless at computer interweb stuff thingy stuff, hope the editor gets here quick cause i don't know how to remove em,,, bloody tablet crappy pretend button that makes you keep pressing cause it's motion graphic doesn't respond.. but obviously still registers as being pressed, come on new lap top.. im getting excited, til i realise it will take me another 3 years to get tech savy

[Tui2]

Originally Posted by SYZ

It's pleasing that these work for you, but I'd just like to add a warning they include with products of this sort: Individuals who are using prescribed anti-depressants or suffer from bipolar depression should not use this product unless under supervision of a healthcare practitioner.

Serotonin Syndrome is life threatening., hope you've had a rew good days in a row lately, this is what i look forward to, , consecutive anx free days where it takes me that amount of time to realise they were, ah its goods to get older and except who you are , better if if could get acgood partner to except me more, boy she'd have to be strong minded, or really dim witted, either way her heart wiuld have to be devine i reckon, its sooo tiring trying to pin point every symptomatic solution when ya don't get a large time window to do it in before anothef hits n ta gotta control that making ya move on to its diagnostic solution, chasing my bloody tail

[buggerlugs]

Originally Posted by Trejo

russelw Where are youuuuu?? help! editor guru, erase my excess duplicates pleeeaasssseee

At 4.15am in the morn, I'd say he's probably in bed.............

[Grega]

yeah have to be careful if you r taking ssri's..Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors as i did ger Serotonin Syndrome a couple of years ago, high temp, poo through the eye of a needle, but the suden major agitation n uncoordinated typical motions is how i got diagnosed......

i think i might have this problem also. i have a fan at work as i am so hot all the time its driving me nuts.

[Madaya]

I get hot and sweat a lot. It does vary with mood. I'd totally fail a lie detector test.

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by Trejo

yeah have to be careful if you r taking ssri's..Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors as i did ger Serotonin Syndrome a couple of years ago, high temp, poo through the eye of a needle, but the suden major agitation n uncoordinated typical motions is how i got diagnosed when telling GP that i didn't like the Tegretol cause it made me feel that way,,, whichbi was only just started on trial with back 8 year ago mixed with Epilim for mood stabilisation. well i obviously produced too much happy juice IE Serotonin Syndrome

Wow I didn't realise you could get too much serotonin! I suppose it's common sense....everything in balance! Is there anything you havnt had bud?
These mild serotonin boosters really are only meant for people NOT on medication and with mild or annoying amounts of depression. Hence why I know about it thru a 'natural therapist'! Anything serious should probably be dealt with by anti depressants......
For newbies I would certainly give natural methods a crack before jumping headlong into the pandoras box of today's heavy meds!

[Road Games]

Hope everyone is feeling tip top today

[olfella]

ricka poodie and a fandangle

[SYZ]

Originally Posted by paule11

One thing when I was stressed out that was good for me was acupuncture. [...]

A few years ago my GP sent me to a Chinese-trained Aussie acupuncturist for my N-24 sleep dysfunction. I had 12 consultations; needles in back of knees, inside both wrists, and top of both feet.

Result? Absolute waste of time, although the acupuncturist did warn me that it may not work, and that he couldn't personally guarantee any positive results at all. Since then, I've done some detailed research about the efficacy of acupuncture, and the results were disappointing.

Briefly, according to the US National Council Against Health fraud (NCAHF):

NCAHF believes:

1. Acupuncture is an unproven modality of treatment;
2. Its theory and practice are based on primitive and fanciful concepts of health and disease that bear no relationship to present scientific knowledge;
3. Research during the past 20 years has failed to demonstrate that acupuncture is effective against any disease;
4. Perceived effects of acupuncture are probably due to a combination of expectation, suggestion, counter-irritation, operant conditioning, and other psychological mechanisms;
5. The use of acupuncture should be restricted to appropriate research settings;
6. Insurance companies should not be required by law to cover acupuncture treatment; and
7. Licensure of lay acupuncturists should be phased out.

[SYZ]

Another "natural" drug worth trialling is St. John's wort (Hypericum perforatum). A 2008 Cochrane review of 29 clinical trials, and a later 2015 meta-analysis review concluded that it has superior efficacy to placebo in treating depression; is as effective as standard antidepressant pharmaceuticals for treating depression; and has fewer adverse effects than other antidepressants.

The usual warnings about taking it alongside other prescription antidepressants apply.

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by SYZ

A few years ago my GP sent me to a Chinese-trained Aussie acupuncturist for my N-24 sleep dysfunction. I had 12 consultations; needles in back of knees, inside both wrists, and top of both feet.

Result? Absolute waste of time, although the acupuncturist did warn me that it may not work, and that he couldn't personally guarantee any positive results at all. Since then, I've done some detailed research about the efficacy of acupuncture, and the results were disappointing.

Briefly, according to the US National Council Against Health fraud (NCAHF):

NCAHF believes:

1. Acupuncture is an unproven modality of treatment;
2. Its theory and practice are based on primitive and fanciful concepts of health and disease that bear no relationship to present scientific knowledge;
3. Research during the past 20 years has failed to demonstrate that acupuncture is effective against any disease;
4. Perceived effects of acupuncture are probably due to a combination of expectation, suggestion, counter-irritation, operant conditioning, and other psychological mechanisms;
5. The use of acupuncture should be restricted to appropriate research settings;
6. Insurance companies should not be required by law to cover acupuncture treatment; and
7. Licensure of lay acupuncturists should be phased out.

I've had acupuncture aswell over the years......for a few diff things......the only thing that made any diff at all was relief of muscle pain in my back! But in theory, the needles are only doing exactly what a good deep tissue massage does. They trigger the nerves to release tension in the muscles!

As you point out....so much of it is people mentally convincing themselves it's working. Not a fan of anything soo hit an miss!

[BLUEYBA]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

I've had acupuncture aswell over the years......for a few diff things......the only thing that made any diff at all was relief of muscle pain in my back! But in theory, the needles are only doing exactly what a good deep tissue massage does. They trigger the nerves to release tension in the muscles!

As you point out....so much of it is people mentally convincing themselves it's working. Not a fan of anything soo hit an miss!

The way I look at it is different things work for different people. So if acupuncture works for you then keep doing. If it does then move onto the next thing that might help until you find the right one. We're not all the same and react to different medications/treatments

[TheSneakiness]

Originally Posted by Trejo

rapid axe wishes he could just curl up in my undies somedays, isn't that just the most flattering comment I've recieved since breaking up with my fiancé 6 months ago, keep it up and i may just convert , all ingood humour with good company

They were your reg grundies? LOL!!!!

Told you I wasn't focused that day but bloody hell made me laugh reading it today.

[nuthin' fancy]

Stay on topic guys.

Irrelevant posts deleted.

I'm not interested in reading threads full of people arguing needlessly. Take it to PM if you are so passionate. If PM is not available to you the, take a hint.

[sneaky]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

Wow I didn't realise you could get too much serotonin! I suppose it's common sense....everything in balance! Is there anything you havnt had bud?
These mild serotonin boosters really are only meant for people NOT on medication and with mild or annoying amounts of depression. Hence why I know about it thru a 'natural therapist'! Anything serious should probably be dealt with by anti depressants......
For newbies I would certainly give natural methods a crack before jumping headlong into the pandoras box of today's heavy meds!

hmm I wonder if Pristiq (desvenlafaxine) falls into the pandora's box of heavy meds? seem to have worked for me in the short few months I have been on them. google tells me the withdrawals are pretty severe though

[TheSneakiness]

Originally Posted by sneaky

hmm I wonder if Pristiq (desvenlafaxine) falls into the pandora's box of heavy meds? seem to have worked for me in the short few months I have been on them. google tells me the withdrawals are pretty severe though

Yes I would say that. Also it takes a long time to come off it (say 2 months).

I stopped it cold turkey cause I couldn't afford it and yeah its not nice.

[nuthin' fancy]

I'm a bit nervous about some medicinal recommendations appearing here.

Can I suggest that no one should provide any advice or recommendation for prescribed medicines? Your doctor will decide on a particular treatment based on an extensive assessment. What works for you does not necessarily work for others and could well be harmful.

References to generic 'natural remedies' will be watched carefully.

[Tui2]

Originally Posted by Grega

i think i might have this problem also. i have a fan at work as i am so hot all the time its driving me nuts.

i bought a metal blade floor pivoting fan for that reason and have recently self diagnosed that
stress/responsibility dues is seemingly the cause, not so much my new meds as previously thought .... jury's still out

[Tui2]

Originally Posted by SYZ

Another "natural" drug worth trialling is St. John's wort (Hypericum perforatum). A 2008 Cochrane review of 29 clinical trials, and a later 2015 meta-analysis review concluded that it has superior efficacy to placebo in treating depression; is as effective as standard antidepressant pharmaceuticals for treating depression; and has fewer adverse effects than other antidepressants.

The usual warnings about taking it alongside other prescription antidepressants apply.

yes he is correct people ..ie ssri, sorry to be repetitive

[Tui2]

Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

They were your reg grundies? LOL!!!!

Told you I wasn't focused that day but bloody hell made me laugh reading it today.

well then I've achieved a good result for good laughter being a mild remedy to ease a major misunderstood and debilitating illness in all its varients. actually there is shorts over my regies

[Tui2]

Originally Posted by nuthin' fancy

I'm a bit nervous about some medicinal recommendations appearing here.

Can I suggest that no one should provide any advice or recommendation for prescribed medicines? Your doctor will decide on a particular treatment based on an extensive assessment. What works for you does not necessarily work for others and could well be harmful.

References to generic 'natural remedies' will be watched carefully.

exactly, i was taking a certain prescribe med, read all about it from different world sites, and nothing of the sort, re side effects or affects, did i experience bar the usaual mood irregularities during the transition period from one med to the next that unfortunately I've endured for that piece of mind know that I'm trying at least

[Tui2]

after a fair enough recent comment, with good intent taken, 'is there anything you (ie me) haven't had?'
and its not meant to sound like hypochondria, but i would like to just explain how complex my Borderline Personality Disorder is for both patient and therapist.
A serious mental illness affecting every aspect of life, moods and emotions.
factors leading to BPD can be complex, genetics, personality, experience of trauma and is 3 times more likely to occur in women.
BPD can be marked by
SELF HARM (as simple as bashing the head, punching my self in the face is my usual)
Difficulty relating to people
Feelings of insecurity
Responding EMOTIONALLY to certain TRIGGERS
Feeling OUT OF CONTROL and OVERWHELMED by emotions
DIFFICULTY expressing and experiencing anger
POOR sense of self
IMPULSIVENESS leading to drug/alcohol abuse or RECKLESS BEHAVIOUR
MOOD SWINGS
UNSTABLE RELATIONSHIPS and commitment issues
DISSOCIATION

the upper case parts, at least one if those symptons, are experienced everyday by me and getting a handle on it is very time and energy consuming for me and my circumstances as an individual assessment. there a LOT of variables and disorders steming from/to and individuals must learn and be guided professionally for any such hope of recovery,
i was taken away in an ambulance last night after agreeing with good police responsive actions understanding to my disorder (big call out thankyou officers) after a relapse in a irrational emotional response to a family member resulting in a suicidal remark heard by a caring neighbour, and for the first time, after all my years, a mental health professional suggested DBT Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, now during all that I've read and my attempts at Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, not once had i heard of this.... designed especially for my Disorder. so don't wait people for the world to help, go out there and do not take NO or I don't know for an answer, cause it got me nowhere and NOW WATCH OUT MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES BECAUSE HERE I COME AND I WILL BE HEARD TO BENEFIT OTHERS AND MAKE IT MORE AWARE TO THE BEST OF MY ABILTY, (unless of course i decided not to care ...disorder joke, i jest, tis what i do)