First experience .. Vic law regarding passing emergency vehicle

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by borough

Had another truck driver tailgating me on the Freeway last night while I was doing the speed limit and overtaking cars in the left lane. First time I had Ben to the office in six weeks. Just reinforces my opinion that truck drivers are just unprofessional cowboys at best.

You weren't by any chance driving on the Mitchell or Kwinana freeway or Tonkin or Roe Highways in Perth were you? Plenty of semi's from BGC and Qube logistics doing 100km/h in the right lane, tailgating the vehicle in front of them, usually around 1m from the rear bumper of the vehicle ahead.

These guys have got to be on the glass bbq. Absolute maniacs asking for an accident to occur.

[prktkljokr]

Originally Posted by borough

Had another truck driver tailgating me on the Freeway last night while I was doing the speed limit and overtaking cars in the left lane. First time I had Ben to the office in six weeks. Just reinforces my opinion that truck drivers are just unprofessional cowboys at best. I hope the truck driver involved in the Eastern Fwy is locked up and the key thrown away.

So from what i can gather from your post is that you were sitting in the right hand lane doing the speed limit, sounds like you are a law abiding citizen.

Now I have a problem with this, as I obey most rules of the road, and there is 1 called the keep left rule, it comes in handy when you drive on a road that has 2 or more lanes going the same way.

Being a truck driver myself, I hate when you have 3 lanes all with a car in them and miles of road in front of each car or miles of road behind, but they will sit all at the same speed and start tapping the brakes or slowing down and speeding up instead of just moving over and let me get on my way like the law states, It should not matter to you if I am going faster than you, that's a matter for the police, you could have just moved over and let him on his way and had a nice peaceful ride home without the agro.

You should not be worried about what the guy behind you or beside you is doing and concentrate on the job at hand and abide by the road rules and move over, then you wont have a tailgater be it a car, bike or a truck.

Maybe if you had to drive a truck for a short period of time you might have a better understanding what we have to put up with with the suicidal car drivers that think its ok to pull in to a trucks braking distance, overtake on blind corners, think that a truck can see them when they are at the front wheel in a merging lane, I could go on, but it just falls on deaf ears as we are all guilty to doing the wrong thing in our little tin boxes.

[borough]

Originally Posted by prktkljokr

So from what i can gather from your post is that you were sitting in the right hand lane doing the speed limit, sounds like you are a law abiding citizen.

Now I have a problem with this, as I obey most rules of the road, and there is 1 called the keep left rule, it comes in handy when you drive on a road that has 2 or more lanes going the same way.

I clearly stated that I was doing the speed limit and overtaking cars on the left. Try again.

Originally Posted by prktkljokr

Being a truck driver myself, I hate when you have 3 lanes all with a car in them and miles of road in front of each car or miles of road behind, but they will sit all at the same speed and start tapping the brakes or slowing down and speeding up instead of just moving over and let me get on my way like the law states, It should not matter to you if I am going faster than you, that's a matter for the police, you could have just moved over and let him on his way and had a nice peaceful ride home without the agro.

You should not be worried about what the guy behind you or beside you is doing and concentrate on the job at hand and abide by the road rules and move over, then you wont have a tailgater be it a car, bike or a truck.

It is called situational awareness. You should be concerned about what is going on ahead, behind, left and the right. Follow your own advice then and follow the road rules and don't tailgate.

Originally Posted by prktkljokr

Maybe if you had to drive a truck for a short period of time you might have a better understanding what we have to put up with with the suicidal car drivers that think its ok to pull in to a trucks braking distance, overtake on blind corners, think that a truck can see them when they are at the front wheel in a merging lane, I could go on, but it just falls on deaf ears as we are all guilty to doing the wrong thing in our little tin boxes.

Just the list of usual truck driver excuses.

[borough]

Originally Posted by Romulus

You weren't by any chance driving on the Mitchell or Kwinana freeway or Tonkin or Roe Highways in Perth were you? Plenty of semi's from BGC and Qube logistics doing 100km/h in the right lane, tailgating the vehicle in front of them, usually around 1m from the rear bumper of the vehicle ahead.

These guys have got to be on the glass bbq. Absolute maniacs asking for an accident to occur.

No mate, Western Freeway Melbourne.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by borough

I clearly stated that I was doing the speed limit and overtaking cars on the left. Try again.

You are aware that car Speedo's only have to be accurate to within +/- 10%. & almost without exception read fast..
Whereas a Trucks Speedo has to be within +/- 1%.

You driving along in your car with the Speedo needle on the posted Limit you're almost guaranteed to Be Travelling Slower than you think you are. & that that Big truck that just passed you & you think was Speeding. Actually wasn't

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by borough

No mate, Western Freeway Melbourne.

The Wild West!

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by prktkljokr

So from what i can gather... snip...

I can see that you have good intentions but what we have here is someone who has an attention seeking disorder and unfortunately, you’ve fallen into his trap. It’s like the old saying, never argue with an idiot.
See how he bitched and whined and then when people asked genuine questions, he dismisses them with this “I am right” and everybody else is wrong attitude. We all come across people like him everyday and it’s best to just ignore them. Once they realise that their little tantrums aren’t getting a reaction, they tend to move on and annoy someone else.
Just for your info, the Western Highway is two lanes and people who fail to keep left on this road are a real PIA.

[prktkljokr]

Originally Posted by borough

Just the list of usual truck driver excuses.

Typical car driver response

In my 20 years of driving a truck, I have had 5 accidents all of them cars crashing into me, 4 of them got out of there el cheapo **** boxes and abused me telling me that I should be more careful and that im a "typical truck driver", funny they were all charged with varying driving offences .

So when you put all us truck drivers into a category of "unprofessional cowboys", Especially when there are way more Bad car drivers out there, think again.

Plus if you think about it, all us so called cowboys are the ones that make sure you get what you need, we stop rolling, you have to hunt and gather again, you would be amazed at the job truck drivers do to get you what you take for granted.

I don't know what you do for a living, but im sure if I labelled your profession in the same manner, you would be a little ticked.

[prktkljokr]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

I can see that you have good intentions but what we have here is someone who has an attention seeking disorder and unfortunately, you’ve fallen into his trap. It’s like the old saying, never argue with an idiot.
See how he bitched and whined and then when people asked genuine questions, he dismisses them with this “I am right” and everybody else is wrong attitude. We all come across people like him everyday and it’s best to just ignore them. Once they realise that their little tantrums aren’t getting a reaction, they tend to move on and annoy someone else.
Just for your info, the Western Highway is two lanes and people who fail to keep left on this road are a real PIA.

Ok makes sense now

[borough]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

I can see that you have good intentions but what we have here is someone who has an attention seeking disorder and unfortunately, you’ve fallen into his trap. It’s like the old saying, never argue with an idiot.
See how he bitched and whined and then when people asked genuine questions, he dismisses them with this “I am right” and everybody else is wrong attitude. We all come across people like him everyday and it’s best to just ignore them. Once they realise that their little tantrums aren’t getting a reaction, they tend to move on and annoy someone else.
Just for your info, the Western Highway is two lanes and people who fail to keep left on this road are a real PIA.

You must be a genius to work that out with with a couple of posts. I usually drive 35,000km a year and I see lots of bad driving. Thanks to Covid-19 Thursday had been my first trip to the office in about six weeks and I end up with this truck driver tailgating me when I am doing the speed limit and overtaking cars. Seriously what should I have done? Pulled into the left lane? That is pretty hard to do when you're overtaking the cars in that lane.

I have never said all truck drivers are cowboys. However due to the actions of a few on the road to keep myself and family safe I have to assume they are.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by borough

You must be a genius to work that out with with a couple of posts. I usually drive 35,000km a year and I see lots of bad driving. Thanks to Covid-19 Thursday had been my first trip to the office in about six weeks and I end up with this truck driver tailgating me when I am doing the speed limit and overtaking cars. Seriously what should I have done? Pulled into the left lane? That is pretty hard to do when you're overtaking the cars in that lane.

I have never said all truck drivers are cowboys. However due to the actions of a few on the road to keep myself and family safe I have to assume they are.

Was he Indian?

[borough]

Originally Posted by prktkljokr

Typical car driver response

In my 20 years of driving a truck, I have had 5 accidents all of them cars crashing into me, 4 of them got out of there el cheapo **** boxes and abused me telling me that I should be more careful and that im a "typical truck driver", funny they were all charged with varying driving offences .

So when you put all us truck drivers into a category of "unprofessional cowboys", Especially when there are way more Bad car drivers out there, think again.

Plus if you think about it, all us so called cowboys are the ones that make sure you get what you need, we stop rolling, you have to hunt and gather again, you would be amazed at the job truck drivers do to get you what you take for granted.

I don't know what you do for a living, but im sure if I labelled your profession in the same manner, you would be a little ticked.

I was a Teacher, now I'm an Engineer. You can label my profession however you see fit as I know it only takes a few bad apples to ruin them all.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by borough

I have never said all truck drivers are cowboys.

Originally Posted by borough

Just reinforces my opinion that truck drivers are just unprofessional cowboys.

[prktkljokr]

Originally Posted by borough

I have never said all truck drivers are cowboys.

Um ya did.

Originally Posted by borough

Just reinforces my opinion that truck drivers are just unprofessional cowboys at best

Anyway you just drive around with your view of truck drivers and I will drive around with my view of some of the car drivers.

Ps, I do 120,000 ks a year

[borough]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Was he Indian?

Couldn't tell mate. It was twilight and all I could see was the grille.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by borough

Couldn't tell mate. It was twilight and all I could see was the grille.

Musn't have been Sudo then otherwise you would have seen the smile

[borough]

Originally Posted by prktkljokr

Um ya did.



Anyway you just drive around with your view of truck drivers and I will drive around with my view of some of the car drivers.

OK that was a mistake on my part. I meant to say that I treat all truck drivers as cowboys due the kind of driving I've seen by some over the years.

Anyway I'm done with this thread. I was a bit shaken by the aggressive driving that was directed at me on Thursday night.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by hayseed

You are aware that car Speedo's only have to be accurate to within +/- 10%. & almost without exception read fast..
Whereas a Trucks Speedo has to be within +/- 1%.

You driving along in your car with the Speedo needle on the posted Limit you're almost guaranteed to Be Travelling Slower than you think you are. & that that Big truck that just passed you & you think was Speeding. Actually wasn't

Very true, Its amazing the amount of cars I pass on the freeway doing the posted speed limit they set on cruise control, in the pre ECM panel van.
I often check it against an overhead speed reader at West Wodonga.

[Fed]

Don't ya just hate it when the overtaking car is sticking to the speed limit and only doing 1 or 2 KPH more than the cars he's passing.

Was that you borough?

[Rallye Sport]

Originally Posted by borough

Seriously what should I have done? Pulled into the left lane?

Yes thats exactly what you should have done. I don't want to go all health and safety but assess the risk and make the change. In this case change lanes, let the idiot go by and get home 30 seconds later, but in one piece. Righteousness won't guarantee you're safety.

[borough]

Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

Yes thats exactly what you should have done. I don't want to go all health and safety but assess the risk and make the change. In this case change lanes, let the idiot go by and get home 30 seconds later, but in one piece. Righteousness won't guarantee you're safety.

What part of I was over taking cars because of that I couldn't pull over right away don't you understand? I waited for a gap in the traffic so I could move over safely.

I think I've explained the incident enough. Blame me all you like however I was doing the speed limit, overtaking a row of cars where there was no gap I could merge into.

[Rallye Sport]

Originally Posted by borough

What part of I was over taking cars because of that I couldn't pull over right away don't you understand? I waited for a gap in the traffic so I could move over safely.

I think I've explained the incident enough. Blame me all you like however I was doing the speed limit, overtaking a row of cars where there was no gap I could merge into.

I don't see anywhere that you've stated you waited for a gap the pulled over?
Kudo's to you then, you exercised common sense and lived to tell the tale. No point dwelling on it. The only thing you get from looking back is a sore neck.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by borough

OK that was a mistake on my part. I meant to say that I treat all truck drivers as cowboys due the kind of driving I've seen by some over the years.

Anyway I'm done with this thread. I was a bit shaken by the aggressive driving that was directed at me on Thursday night.

If you are worried about tailgaters then fit a dual gps dash cam to your vehicle, hand the video to the coppers when some moron harasses you but make sure your driving was lawful.
Cheers.

[roKWiz]

I reckon this old trucking song sums this up.

https://youtu.be/qc2IJXMBwZI

[Franco Cozzo]

Mr Pusey and his shennanigans have fallen off the radar recently? Its like it was all over the news and now we're back to COVID-19 pandemic and thats that.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Mr Pusey and his shennanigans have fallen off the radar recently? Its like it was all over the news and now we're back to COVID-19 pandemic and thats that.

Aldi ran out of air fryers. Much bigger story

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Mr Pusey and his shennanigans have fallen off the radar recently? Its like it was all over the news and now we're back to COVID-19 pandemic and thats that.

You will here soon enough! it was reported in the paper the other day he is in preparation to make bail.
Apparently he is taken notes of his suppose mistreatment in remand.

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Mr Pusey and his shennanigans have fallen off the radar recently? Its like it was all over the news and now we're back to COVID-19 pandemic and thats that.

Yeah, there was an interesting story a bit over a week ago, Friday 1/5/20 on Seven news that showed just how low the media will go to set the narrative.
The story was about some emails sent to the Whitehorse Council some years ago by Mr Pusey. The story seems to have disappeared from the Seven News website, however, other sites still have it up.

https://www.news.com.au/national/vic...0d2bfe269d4164

That fact that this has absolutely nothing to do with the crash, show’s that it is a blatant attempt of character assassination and to simply reinforce in the public arena that Mr Pusey really is the bad guy.

If the mainstream media actually had some brains, they’d stick to reporting the “known facts” of the case and leave everything else until after the trial. Mr Pusey’s lawyer will be loving this.

Originally Posted by Officemanager

You will here soon enough! it was reported in the paper the other day he is in preparation to make bail.
Apparently he is taken notes of his suppose mistreatment in remand.

Yep, and this is why they must be careful otherwise they’ll fall on their backside and he will most likely get bail. He must be treated properly in remand and they “must guarantee” his safety in custody. Mr Ashton was asked about his bail application the other day during a press conference and he said that they will be apposing bail because in their opinion, he “Pusey’s” offending was at the higher end of the scale. They are clutching at straws and it might work, but it might not either.

[MercuryT]

I rarely go to Melbourne, but I've noticed Police far more aggressive than the Tassie force.

Not saying a bad thing (maybe it's required) just seem very bossy, enjoy power etc. Police here mostly casual and chat normally.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

I rarely go to Melbourne, but I've noticed Police far more aggressive than the Tassie force.

Not saying a bad thing (maybe it's required) just seem very bossy, enjoy power etc. Police here mostly casual and chat normally.

If you think Vic police is aggressive wait till you visit the other states of Australia.