Covid 19 -

[Tickford.]

Well.. looks like Dr Prydey conveniently decided to go offline after reading my post requesting the "facts".

So I thought I'll post post up some "fabricated" stories on student to student infections.

Originally Posted by Victoria's Chief Health Officer Professor Brett Sutton Jul 2, 2020

“We are certainly seeing some evidence of student to student and teacher to teacher- especially teacher to teacher - transmission.”

And some fabricated stories in the media:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...02-p558da.html

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/co...09049ddeed984d

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/healt...ool--c-1139409

https://www.9news.com.au/national/co...7-75fdd5e2a7c4

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...egins/12409436

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Well... you know how we were told children don't get infected, unlikely to pass it on, so send your children to school...??

So.. how did that "expert medical advice" work out for you Mr Morrison?

I got flamed hard for having that opinion 600 posts back ...


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[danzvtil]

The SA govt crackdown on the vic border is pretty full on, ive spent the last 2 days in MT gambier, a good number of their workers live cross border. The police ARE calling employers in the town, asking 1- Does joe blogs work there? And 2- Is joe blogs rostered on today? After an early morning crossing.
I don’t see how western Victoria should pay for the sins of suburban Melbourne.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by danzvtil

The SA govt crackdown on the vic border is pretty full on, ive spent the last 2 days in MT gambier, a good number of their workers live cross border. The police ARE calling employers in the town, asking 1- Does joe blogs work there? And 2- Is joe blogs rostered on today? After an early morning crossing.
I don’t see how western Victoria should pay for the sins of suburban Melbourne.

Its ironic - 2 speed economy where Melbourne reaps the rewards when its Melbourne above all else but when its pandemic time regional VIC is lumped in with Melbourne and now can't open hospitality businesses or cross borders.

[Sprintey]

In the news today, cases in Flemington, Kensington at higher rate this week, these are outside the lockdown areas. Also, kids passing to other kids at school, ditto between teachers, 27 schools got the cleaning so far.

The good news is this is teaching me what the Melbourne suburbs are. I formerly knew 'Werribee off ramp, ring road, and CBD.'

What's the odds they extend to more suburbs early next week?

For the love of all that's holy, please isolate the regions Vic ALP - like done very well by WA ALP.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

In the news today, cases in Flemington, Kensington at higher rate this week, these are outside the lockdown areas. Also, kids passing to other kids at school, ditto between teachers, 27 schools got the cleaning so far.

The good news is this is teaching me what the Melbourne suburbs are. I formerly knew 'Werribee off ramp, ring road, and CBD.'

What's the odds they extend to more suburbs early next week?

For the love of all that's holy, please isolate the regions Vic ALP - like done very well by WA ALP.

Kensington and Flemington

Interesting suburbs - parts of it are a huge ghetto with old houso apartments that look like they're workers accomodation from the USSR and the other side of the suburb Kensington is houses from the 1800s worth 7 figures.

There's a huge wealth disparity in Kensington across a few blocks.

[MercuryT]

Interesting suburbs?

What's "interesting" about those Suburbs Franco? (unless on your Security guard gig you want ; )

Deadset it's horrible. I must have missed the interesting part the last 20 times......Kensington too.

[Tickford.]

Anyone from Balmain NSW? The entire town is being asked to go and get tested, IF symptomatic.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/P...200702_02.aspx

Why only symptomatic? We know you don't have to have symptoms to be Covid positive.

Sit back and watch this take off in Balmain, and then Western Sydney. Like what is going on in NW Melbourne. NSW Health should act now and get mass testing happening in the area.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Interesting suburbs?

What's "interesting" about those Suburbs Franco? (unless on your Security guard gig you want ; )

Deadset it's horrible. I must have missed the interesting part the last 20 times......Kensington too.

Huge disparity of wealth - not uncommon to see exotic cars around the Hardimans Hotel on Macaulay Rd, median house price is $1.1M, median weekly income is just under $2000/week which is about $500 higher than the VIC average.

On the Racecourse Rd side of it a short walk away its got the USSR houso complex with the car park full of yellow Falcons, Camrys and everything is graffitti'd and its such a ****hole.

https://hardimans.com.au/

Is worth a visit if anyone's in the area, food is great and reasonably priced and there's a good selection of beer on tap

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Huge disparity of wealth - not uncommon to see exotic cars around the Hardimans Hotel on Macaulay Rd, median house price is $1.1M, median weekly income is just under $2000/week which is about $500 higher than the VIC average.

On the Racecourse Rd side of it a short walk away its got the USSR houso complex with the car park full of yellow Falcons, Camrys and everything is graffitti'd and its such a ****hole.

Fair enough as I'm only ever a visitor.

Used to beaches and massive views as normal, but driving through there........just so depressing. Hate it.

But being close to City of course has value especially to landlords.

Hobarts most expensive suburb is Battery Point.

Ironically it's boring as, but so close to City (so the poor can walk) landlords cram tenants in, and causes more trouble than outer very cool suburbs with views, beaches, tracks etc.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Please let us know the facts Dr Prydey.

Has there been any Covid-19 infections between students at schools?

you claimed we were told by the experts that kids weren't affected and that they couldn't pass it around, or words to that effect.

please post up those press releases if you can find them.

statistically, using global statistics, young people are featured less. no-one has ever said they are immune or can't transmit. it is a statistical fact that they 'appear' to be 'less' affected.

you can misconstrue that to suggest they are saying kids are immune so that you can then elevate yourself above the authorities that you like to act superior to, however it doesn't make you right.

like i said, facts and stories.

[MercuryT]

Franco.

From Kunanyi.

I'm on the other side, 10mins from city.......Hobart is not as good as Sydney waterside, but it's damn close.

Have a look one day mate!

[CoupeKing]

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/02/h...udy/index.html

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Anyone from Balmain NSW? The entire town is being asked to go and get tested, IF symptomatic.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/P...200702_02.aspx

Why only symptomatic? We know you don't have to have symptoms to be Covid positive.

Sit back and watch this take off in Balmain, and then Western Sydney. Like what is going on in NW Melbourne. NSW Health should act now and get mass testing happening in the area.

Agree, I still think they are misleading us with these news stories regarding sources, come on not one person infected in all the capital cities due to the BLM protests. I reckon if they start doing tests in Sydney they will find quite a few.
Funny there was a case in the SBS building at Fed Square in Melb diagonally opposite Flinder St Station where there was another cluster from station staff. The focal point of the recent protests in Melb.
But Sydney is full of "fingers in the ears" crowd not listening brigade.

Maybe they should have quarantined all the cities seeing as this is where the fly ins went to, the majority of OS students are and where all the outrage protesters live.

[FPV8U]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/02/h...udy/index.html

Can only imagine the anger in the CNN office typing that article out

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by russellw

I'm sorry but the question was asked as to what the gap was between outbreaks. I didn't think we were debating what the cause of those outbreaks was and by definition going from an absence of new cases to having new cases is a restart.

ok ...i thought an outbreak is something that is spreading?

[Franco Cozzo]

Victorian Premier announces maximum participants of quarantine hotel orgies to be capped at 5 people and must include at least one security guard

https://doublebaytoday.com/victorias...m-of-5-people/

[blueoval]

have you put your hand up Franco, for "research purposes"?

[russellw]

66 new cases for Australia (all in Victoria) and no deaths so CMR drops to 1.260% and active cases rise to 832 (10.1%). Some reclassification added 254 cases to the overall total.

No new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.438% and active cases remain at 18.

The UK recorded 576 new cases and 136 deaths yesterday so the CMR rises to 15.524%.

Just under 56k new cases in the USA yesterday and 687 deaths sees CMR down to 4.637 and active cases down to 53.3% but the raw numbers are rising and passed the 1.5M active case mark. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Global new cases set a new high of 206,504, 8% above the prior peak;
Global case numbers pass 11M with the last million added in 6 days;
The UK completes 10M and the USA 36Mtests;
Africa records a new high for daily cases with 16,216;
Asia records a new high for daily cases with 53,601;
North America records a new high for daily cases with 67,459;

Uzbekistan (318), Algeria (413), Nepal (740), Dominican Republic (951), Bolivia (1,301), Philippines (1,531), Guatemala (2,282), Mexico (6,741), South Africa (9,063) and India (22,721) recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by russellw

Uzbekistan (318), Algeria (413), Nepal (740), Dominican Republic (951), Bolivia (1,301), Philippines (1,531), Guatemala (2,282), Mexico (6,741), South Africa (9,063) and India (22,721)

You sure that is not just the breakdown of people from the Northern and Western suburbs of Melbourne Russell?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

You sure that is not just the breakdown of people from the Northern and Western suburbs of Melbourne Russell?

If that was true India would be 1,500,000 in the Western suburbs alone

[guzzis3]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

With respect you are just some guy on the internet trying to disagree with the architect of Sweden’s response....

How do you know when a government has stuffed up and they know it?

They call an enquiry to deflect criticism

Victorian government
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...nched/12414612

Sweden's government
https://www.dw.com/en/sweden-launche...mic/a-53651574

No respect required. I'm talking about facts not politics or opinions. What I have said is not an opinion.

The swedish government did what they did. Are you disputing that ?

They did it for the reasons they stated. Are you disputing that ?

It had the effect that has been measured and declared. Are you disputing that ?

The reasons for doing it were to address later outbreaks. Are you disputing that ?

The outbreaks haven't ended, or do you think the covid thing is over ?

The stuff you are talking about is opinion. I'm not offering opinions, I'm telling you the facts. It was all laid out in the origional written justification for the strategy. Just because a bunch of officials have "changed their minds" doesn't change the strategy nor it's origional intentions.

Consider an example removed from all this:

I suspect my drains are cracked and leaking. I dig a hole to check the pipes. I find some of my pipes and they aren't cracked. I regret digging the hole. I suspect my origional motivation. The hole still exists and I still don't know if the drains I haven't dug up are sound.

That is essentially the situation in Sweden. Changing your mind doesn't change reality.

[Work Horse]

I have not offered an opinion, although I think a discussion of Sweden’s strategy would be interesting.

Originally Posted by guzzis3

The stuff you are talking about is opinion. I'm not offering opinions, I'm telling you the facts. It was all laid out in the origional written justification for the strategy. Just because a bunch of officials have "changed their minds" doesn't change the strategy nor it's origional intentions.

I was just quoting Anders Tegnell who was the author of the "original written justification for the strategy".

It is Anders Tegnell who claims Sweden got it wrong and too many of their people have died.

You are just some guy on the internet trying to disagree with the architect of Sweden’s response.

If you want to argue about the fact we don't know the future, then let’s agree you are correct...

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Victorian Premier announces maximum participants of quarantine hotel orgies to be capped at 5 people and must include at least one security guard

https://doublebaytoday.com/victorias...m-of-5-people/

How are you managing to get time to be here with all the applications you must be putting in?

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Kensington and Flemington

Interesting suburbs - parts of it are a huge ghetto with old houso apartments that look like they're workers accomodation from the USSR and the other side of the suburb Kensington is houses from the 1800s worth 7 figures.

There's a huge wealth disparity in Kensington across a few blocks.

Thanks for the vignettes of these suburbs Franco. It sounds like what Mossie Park in Perth was in the 1990s - you had incredible mansions on the river and Peppermint Grove side to the east (beautiful!), then up against the highway/rail line/Curtin av you had these council style apartment blocks, Battle St was the highlight.

I was young and wanted to live cheap by the beach in a smaller block (beach is just over Curtin Av and railyards to the West) so there were car break-ins, coppers getting people out of the big apartments, coppers with loudspeakers, people screaming at night, drugs, weirdos. In the smaller block there were a total cast of characters as well, mostly good but certainly eccentric. Feel like a night out? Head up the Stirling Hwy to Claremont nightclub & pubs where the serial killer was in action...

It's probably all gentrified now?

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Franco.

From Kunanyi.

I'm on the other side, 10mins from city.......Hobart is not as good as Sydney waterside, but it's damn close.

Have a look one day mate!

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Mercury T - absolutely loved Hobart when down there working. We stayed on east side which seemed more down to earth. Whole area is amazing, I had to work a lot of the radio towers on the mountains overlooking bits of it. New Year in the harbour with all the 100ft supermaxis in after the Sydney to Hobart goes off! Went and climbed Mt Hartz on a weekend off. There's some surf on the east side as well, cold but it satisfied the urge! My fav bits were the far NW coast, and the NE coast as well with all the orange lichen on the rocks.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

How are you managing to get time to be here with all the applications you must be putting in?

I spend a lot of time in 'the office'

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

Mercury T - absolutely loved Hobart when down there working. We stayed on east side which seemed more down to earth. Whole area is amazing, I had to work a lot of the radio towers on the mountains overlooking bits of it. New Year in the harbour with all the 100ft supermaxis in after the Sydney to Hobart goes off! Went and climbed Mt Hartz on a weekend off. There's some surf on the east side as well, cold but it satisfied the urge! My fav bits were the far NW coast, and the NE coast as well with all the orange lichen on the rocks.

Great to hear you enjoyed it. Where are you? (for some reason I thought you were Tassie too)

East has better views, weather and lifestyle than West for sure.

Yeah right, working outdoors you would have been able to experience heaps (so long as Southerly bite (wind) doesn't get you!)

Yep plenty of surf if brave the water and further East (Clifton, Carlton etc) has better again.

NY, Taste of Tassie and Sydney/Hobart is a great time of the year!!

Far NW very beautiful and quiet (even though whole place is quiet really outside festivals etc. Bay of Fires on East with the rocks you mention is spectacular - walked over and through many times.

[marty351]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I spend a lot of time in 'the office'

That's the most disgusting form of multi-tasking, and probably most difficult. Bravo.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

Thanks for the vignettes of these suburbs Franco. It sounds like what Mossie Park in Perth was in the 1990s - you had incredible mansions on the river and Peppermint Grove side to the east (beautiful!), then up against the highway/rail line/Curtin av you had these council style apartment blocks, Battle St was the highlight.

I was young and wanted to live cheap by the beach in a smaller block (beach is just over Curtin Av and railyards to the West) so there were car break-ins, coppers getting people out of the big apartments, coppers with loudspeakers, people screaming at night, drugs, weirdos. In the smaller block there were a total cast of characters as well, mostly good but certainly eccentric. Feel like a night out? Head up the Stirling Hwy to Claremont nightclub & pubs where the serial killer was in action...

It's probably all gentrified now?

USSR Houso Towers in Kensington have been locked down, they are not allowed to leave their houses for 5 days.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/coronav...6d0bf76678977c

108 new cases in Victoria

Postcodes 3031 and 3051 now being locked down.

3145 public housing units, 3000 residents, 3031 Flemington/Kensington.

North Melbourne USSR Houso towers also locked down.

If anyone's interested you can see these towers when heading towards the city or the airport on the Tullamarine Freeway/Bolte Bridge.

They're freakin ugly as a hat full of assholes.

I'm interested to see how the wealthy react to being effected by this lockdown in 3031 Kensington/Flemington.

Put my resume in to do my bit participating in COVID19 orgies, play cards, take people on shopping trips and maybe some uber driving