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Old 10-06-2014, 07:45 PM   #4141
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Another member found this on eBay..... (thanks Damo)

FPV GTF (GT-F) - LIMITED EDITION LAST EVER GT FALCON $140,000.00

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/231255104...torefresh=true
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Old 10-06-2014, 07:47 PM   #4142
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Another member found this on eBay..... (thanks Damo)

FPV GTF (GT-F) - LIMITED EDITION LAST EVER GT FALCON $140,000.00

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/231255104...torefresh=true
That dude is gonna make a fair bit off that
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Old 10-06-2014, 08:03 PM   #4143
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I would've thought the GT335 would have different suspension and other bits and pieces to be able to handle the more powerful engine.

I agree with you the engine is the same, I just don't think it's cost of the engine that would make them use the 315. I think it's an end to end thing that would take into account all other various part tolerances, part costs and potential warranty claims for the cheaper vehicle.
The BA/BF XR8 ran the same DANA Diff as the GT, and I would not be surprised if the 315 Kw GS runs the same driveline as the 335 GT.

A lot of aftermarket Tuners are easily and reliably getting 383 RW-KW just from a tune (no hardware improvements) from BOTH the GT & GS - as they are identical mechanically (even Camshafts). This is a common practice, with no reported driveline or structural etc issues.

I would be very surprised if the next XR8 was NOT a 335 GT engine - and it appears to be widely recognised and acknowledged to be the case.

eg: From: Ford comes clean on V8 power: Final hot Falcon actually produces 404kW, not ‘just’ 351kW

By: James Stanford Tuesday, 10 June 2014 9:40AM http://motoring.ninemsn.com.au


"Now that FPV is producing its final batch of cars – and having made a big thing about the 351kW figure – the company has ’fessed up about how much extra grunt is produced when the overboost function is operating.

It says in that situation the engine will make 15 percent more power. That drives the peak power figure of the GT-F final edition cars to 404kW.

At lower temperatures, the overboost function works without a time limit. That means it produces 404kW all the time.(i.e. 404 kw for the 351 / 385 kw for the 335kw)

The only limitation comes on hot days, when the engine control unit limits the overboost function to 15 or 20 seconds to prevent engine damage. The way the ECU is calibrated, the overboost does not work in first gear in order to protect the transmission.

The official recognition of transient overboost function will make no difference to FPV sales, as stocks of regular GT and related models are almost all sold and every single GT-F has been allocated to a dealer.

It does, however, create more excitement around the return of the Ford Falcon XR8 model when the updated Falcon range appears in November.

That car will run what was the FPV GT engine, which is officially rated at 335kW.

However, as Ford now admits, the V8 will pump out 15 percent more power, for a peak figure of 385kW.

This much power in an XR8, which is likely to be priced within range of Holden’s SS Commodore, which costs $41,990 and produces 270kW, could really boost the appeal of the final hot Falcon.


The XR8 will also be the first Ford-badged V8 model since the last XR8 bowed out due to emission rules in 2010."


http://motoring.ninemsn.com.au/cars/...n-on-v8-power/

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Old 10-06-2014, 08:11 PM   #4144
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That dude is gonna make a fair bit off that
Yeah nahhh. Ebay will pull the ad for selling something that doesn't yet exist.
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Old 10-06-2014, 08:52 PM   #4145
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Thank god for that if it looks anything like the above mag cover
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found the early fg xr front


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Old 10-06-2014, 08:56 PM   #4146
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http://ninemsn.carsales.com.au/news/...intref=ed-news

Sorry if already posted, I'm trying to keep up to all these threads.

Many of the software tweaks that allowed Ford and Prodrive engineers to free up the GT F's supercharged V8 to pump out over 400kW in 'overboost' mode have been pulled forward from the XR8 program.

Ford engineering staff on hand for the GT F launch would not comment on the specifications of the upcoming XR8. Speculation is rife, however, that both basic and high-performance variants will be offered, the latter using the GT F and RSPEC-pioneered suspension settings and Brembo braking tech.
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Old 10-06-2014, 09:09 PM   #4147
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Wouldn't mind an XT with that 385 kw motor :p
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Old 10-06-2014, 09:42 PM   #4148
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Wouldn't mind an XT with that 385 kw motor :p
Wouldnt mind them just selling the engine for retro fitament
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Old 10-06-2014, 09:44 PM   #4149
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I wonder if there will be 'crate' engine sales of surplus Miami engines when the Falcon is done, just like Ford did with the Clevo in the 1980's...
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:09 PM   #4150
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that would be good! I'll drop one in escort. hahahaha

That ad for the GT-F on ebay i was tempted to post him a question, asking why he just buying cars to make a profit. how are you suppose to sell something you haven't actually recieved. ??

isnt that illegal.
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:21 PM   #4151
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That ad for the GT-F on ebay i was tempted to post him a question, asking why he just buying cars to make a profit.
Um, you just answered your own question.
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:27 PM   #4152
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you can still buy it for $78k, there are some left
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Old 10-06-2014, 11:47 PM   #4153
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you can still buy it for $78k, there are some left
Good opportunity at making $50K profit?
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Old 10-06-2014, 11:54 PM   #4154
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if you think that way.

what if i put a ad in the local paper for it, and said in the ad :

I haven't received it from the dealer yet, but you can have it for a little bit less than double of what i just paid a month ago.
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At least he picked a nice colour....
Now if he got the right number 289, 302 well that could be worth it to somebody....

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Old 11-06-2014, 09:07 AM   #4156
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Old School XT or Pov-Pack FG XT?
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Old 11-06-2014, 09:45 AM   #4157
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Old School XT or Pov-Pack FG XT?
Pov pack FH :p with brembos. The ZF and r spec suspension :p and an xr8 bulge and rims
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if you think that way.

what if i put a ad in the local paper for it, and said in the ad :

I haven't received it from the dealer yet, but you can have it for a little bit less than double of what i just paid a month ago.
That sounds pretty crazy

When would a buyer get his car from the dealers if the GTF was revealed yesterday?
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Wouldnt mind them just selling the engine for retro fitament
Would sit nicely in a GT40 replica.
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Very good rocket. Now, can you just massage the bonnet bulge a bit to make it go all the way to the back end of the bonnet.
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Very good rocket. Now, can you just massage the bonnet bulge a bit to make it go all the way to the back end of the bonnet.
I suspected that there was something different with the bonnet. Thanks

I post an edit tomorrow.
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Stunning. Looks like a modern interpretation of the BA Falcon XR8, big grin, aggressive eyes and all.
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Funny (interesting) front, it looks happy.
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Old 12-06-2014, 09:56 AM   #4168
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Well done rocketscientist.

Not sure whether the new XR8 will have indicators on the mirrors, and remember as recently shown by Spyman the indicator on the panel will be clear now, not orange

Well done though, the high beams will be the outer globe and the projector regular headlamps will be on the inner, (just like the current XR Falcon's).

Terrific work, well done, bottom grille needs to be a tiny bit smaller
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Funny (interesting) front, it looks happy.
I reckon slighty bigger lights would look better
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Which one is closer? Which one looks better?
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