FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread - Page 146

Callum31 · 18-06-2014, 07:30 PM

Fgpsi, the B series kept the same taillight design throughout the whole range, from XT right to Fairlane. Only complaint was the Fairlane just looked too much of a Falcon, unlike alot of the previous Fairlane's.

Callum31 · 18-06-2014, 07:34 PM

Rocketscientist, looks terrific, the gap between the upper and lower grille needs to be a tiny bit smaller and by looking at a picture from the tease video, it appears the new Falcon (XR8) will have a more square looking power bulge, wide and square...

rocketscientist · 18-06-2014, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Callum31

Rocketscientist, looks terrific, the gap between the upper and lower grille needs to be a tiny bit smaller and by looking at a picture from the tease video, it appears the new Falcon (XR8) will have a more square looking power bulge, wide and square...

Thanks. Out of curiosity, does anybody know if the Falcon used in the teaser vid was an actual car or was it CGI?

martinijosh · 18-06-2014, 08:07 PM

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Thanks. Out of curiosity, does anybody know if the Falcon used in the teaser vid was an actual car or was it CGI?

The original video showed rendered images (CGI)

Nikked · 18-06-2014, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Callum31

Fgpsi, the B series kept the same taillight design throughout the whole range, from XT right to Fairlane. Only complaint was the Fairlane just looked too much of a Falcon, unlike alot of the previous Fairlane's.

Fairlane had a different lower chrome mould, BF had a different lens.

rocketscientist · 18-06-2014, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by martinijosh

The original video showed rendered images (CGI)

Thanks. I suspected as much. That's why I have steered away from the rendered images and relied almost entirely on the work of spyman ion my attempts at a chop.

Nikked · 18-06-2014, 09:00 PM

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Thanks. I suspected as much. That's why I have steered away from the rendered images and relied almost entirely on the work of spyman ion my attempts at a chop.

Wise move.

LooLoo18 · 19-06-2014, 05:57 AM

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Thanks. I suspected as much. That's why I have steered away from the rendered images and relied almost entirely on the work of spyman ion my attempts at a chop.

Love your work can you do anything on the rear?

**Dave R** · 19-06-2014, 07:40 AM

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You are joking, right?

At night they do look great, they light up in a quad pattern imitating the Camaro.

One thing I hope that Ford doesn't do with this new Falcon is fill the lower model tail lights with red like Holden do with theirs. It just looks cheap.

**Polyal** · 19-06-2014, 07:43 AM

^^And adds cost having another part. Why bother really (other than wanting to distinguish from upper models, I dont think the Germans bother with this though?).

Anyone else having issues with rockerscientists pic?

malazn mafia · 19-06-2014, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

^^And adds cost having another part. Why bother really (other than wanting to distinguish from upper models, I dont think the Germans bother with this though?).

Anyone else having issues with rockerscientists pic?

Germans do. Look at the hideous taillights of the previous Gen Golf and GTI, vs the brilliant LED hockey stick lights of the Golf R.

**Polyal** · 19-06-2014, 11:46 AM

Yeah I was referring to the orange lense thing Australia companies have done in the past. Dont know why the bother.

Having distinction between levels is great..but just make all of them have the some lights and be done with it. Fill the upper models with more tech or nicer leather etc.

fgpsi · 19-06-2014, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline

At night they do look great, they light up in a quad pattern imitating the Camaro.

One thing I hope that Ford doesn't do with this new Falcon is fill the lower model tail lights with red like Holden do with theirs. It just looks cheap.

You're not talking about regular Holden VF tails are you?

The hsv ones do look good at night

**Professor Farnsworth** · 19-06-2014, 12:23 PM

i wonder how long it will be before people start putting FZ front ends on their FGs. I'm guessing it'd just be down to:

bonnet & grille
front guards
headlights
bumper & foglights

who knows at this stage though.

**Polyal** · 19-06-2014, 12:26 PM

That would be like putting an EL front on a ED. It would look horrid!

Smoke Pursuit · 19-06-2014, 12:29 PM

Yeah it will probably require a rad support change too.

I hope no body does it, but a few did with AU utes, with BA Fronts.

**Professor Farnsworth** · 19-06-2014, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

That would be like putting an EL front on a ED. It would look horrid!

no it wouldn't. The FZ is FG based, same doors, interior, and i presume roof as well. It would look identical to an FZ by all reports at the front.

EL and ED were completely different shell wise, doors, front and rear, interior, everything.

**Professor Farnsworth** · 19-06-2014, 12:35 PM

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Yeah it will probably require a rad support change too.

I hope no body does it, but a few did with AU utes, with BA Fronts.

from what i can gather FG to FZ will be very similar though, AU to BA had a different roof, different interior, and a LOT more of a change to be honest

**Polyal** · 19-06-2014, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

no it wouldn't. The FZ is FG based, same doors, interior, and i presume roof as well. It would look identical to an FZ by all reports at the front.

EL and ED were completely different shell wise, doors, front and rear, interior, everything.

Hmm..Yes FZ is based off FG so everything from A to C pillar will be more or less the same. We will see if the crease in the doors stay, Im guessing it would.

What looks identical to a FZ?....other than a FZ....

Not sure if serious about EA/EB/ED/EL...all the same (basically) from A to C pillar.

You can swap the Front end panels by all means (maybe some rad stuff but Im tipping thats more or less the same aswell), but there is not a single modern sedan shape that would pull it off with the exception of EA/EB/ED..BA/BF.

NanoDuke · 19-06-2014, 01:34 PM

But I don't recall many people upgrading their 08 FGs with the new front bar, so why would they go to an FZ bar?
Plus, I think emotionally it's a bit much if you're trying to get into the "last ever falcon" by putting a FZ bar on an FG...

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Road_Warrior · 19-06-2014, 01:46 PM

Nowhere near as bad as people with VN Commodores putting VT or VE HSV kits on them

Or VE kits on VT's

**Professor Farnsworth** · 19-06-2014, 02:03 PM

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What looks identical to a FZ?....other than a FZ....

i already said an FG with the front end panels and headlights swapped over would look identical, with rad support or whatever is changed underneath. It should be essentially the same car.

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Not sure if serious about EA/EB/ED/EL...all the same (basically) from A to C pillar.

i'm not sure if YOU'RE serious, an EL shares no panels with an ED in any way, they're all completely different, so it's a pointless comparison. Your comment is the same as saying BF is the same as FG, they kinda look the same from most angles but share NO panels. I've owned EA EB ED and EL so i can comment with some experience. FG to FZ shares basically the entire car with a new front and rear treatment. THAT was my point, i'm sure some people will look into doing it. Might i add that i am not interested in the slightest in attempting it, i was merely pointing out the possibility.

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But I don't recall many people upgrading their 08 FGs with the new front bar, so why would they go to an FZ bar?

because it's not just a bar, it's the complete front end, incorporating (probably) HIDs, DRLs (factory) and the new styling. FG2 was simply a new bar, same headlights (shape) etc.

Hawkeye84 · 19-06-2014, 02:10 PM

All come down to costs i reckon.
I haven't seen any SX/SY territorys with SZ fronts

**Professor Farnsworth** · 19-06-2014, 02:12 PM

yeah it'd be something people would do down the track i'd imagine if at all

once the cars become cheap enough to by second hand, and someone writes off the rear end of their FZ. Not sure on the specifics of the SZ though

the rear end of the FZ would be a bit harder to replicate i guess

Smoke Pursuit · 19-06-2014, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

from what i can gather FG to FZ will be very similar though, AU to BA had a different roof, different interior, and a LOT more of a change to be honest

Just like an SZ Territory is the same car as SX Territory, but if you pop the bonnet on the 2 the SZ has a totally different rad support, to do an SZ conversion on an SX you cant just unbold panels, its a case of getting the grinder out.

Smoke Pursuit · 19-06-2014, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye84

All come down to costs i reckon.
I haven't seen any SX/SY territorys with SZ fronts

Most companies with stretch Territory limos have converted them to SZ fronts.

Smoke Pursuit · 19-06-2014, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

i already said an FG with the front end panels and headlights swapped over would look identical, with rad support or whatever is changed underneath. It should be essentially the same car.

i'm not sure if YOU'RE serious, an EL shares no panels with an ED in any way, they're all completely different, so it's a pointless comparison. Your comment is the same as saying BF is the same as FG, they kinda look the same from most angles but share NO panels. I've owned EA EB ED and EL so i can comment with some experience. FG to FZ shares basically the entire car with a new front and rear treatment. THAT was my point, i'm sure some people will look into doing it. Might i add that i am not interested in the slightest in attempting it, i was merely pointing out the possibility.

because it's not just a bar, it's the complete front end, incorporating (probably) HIDs, DRLs (factory) and the new styling. FG2 was simply a new bar, same headlights (shape) etc.

ED and EF share the same turret and doors.

The only difference is the rear quarters and front ends.

**Professor Farnsworth** · 19-06-2014, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

Just like an SZ Territory is the same car as SX Territory, but if you pop the bonnet on the 2 the SZ has a totally different rad support, to do an SZ conversion on an SX you cant just unbold panels, its a case of getting the grinder out.

yeah, most people who want to do a conversion won't care about a few sparks here and there

**Professor Farnsworth** · 19-06-2014, 02:19 PM

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ED and EF share the same turret and doors.

The only difference is the rear quarters and front ends.

yeah i know i had EL Ghia door trims in my EB Ghia - buy they had different handles, mirrors, roof from memory and so on. I should have phrased what i said better

malazn mafia · 19-06-2014, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

i'm not sure if YOU'RE serious, an EL shares no panels with an ED in any way, they're all completely different, so it's a pointless comparison. Your comment is the same as saying BF is the same as FG, they kinda look the same from most angles but share NO panels. I've owned EA EB ED and EL so i can comment with some experience. FG to FZ shares basically the entire car with a new front and rear treatment. THAT was my point, i'm sure some people will look into doing it. Might i add that i am not interested in the slightest in attempting it, i was merely pointing out the possibility.

Ford did such a good job disguising carryover ED doors in the EF. I thought nothing was in common until I pulled off the EL door trim and noticed the big trapezoidal shaped cutout in the door shell that matched the EA door handle