USA 2020 Election

[superyob]

Looking even better for Trump today. But keep believing the MSM peoples. My cup will catch your tears...

[LG17]

Originally Posted by superyob

Looking even better for Trump today. But keep believing the MSM peoples. My cup will catch your tears...

What is looking better?
The court cases he is pursuing are being thrown out, the vast majority of them being marked as frivolous; His legal teams are pulling the pin; he makes a speech and all he talks about is Covid; looks like Arizona is falling; election officials from all over are coming out and stating how secure the voting was...
Shall I go on?

[superyob]

Cup, tears. You know the rest...

[irvinnie]

I think it may be finally starting to sink in to Trump... the I won rhetoric is easing

“I will not be going to a lockdown. Hopefully the, the ah – whatever happens in the future, who knows which administration it will be, I guess time will tell – but I can tell you this administration will not go to a lockdown,” Mr Trump said.

[buggerlugs]

Originally Posted by superyob

Cup, tears. You know the rest...

Not sure what med's your on, but I'd see about changing them fairly soon.....

[tweeked]

It shouldn’t take much longer. Politicians, once realising a ship is doing nothing but sinking run straight past the rats. There will be a point that his supporters will realise the inevitable, it will be done. Just a couple more court decisions required.

[zipping]

Originally Posted by tweeked

Just a couple more court decisions required.

Is that right?

Thankyou for imparting on us your vast experience and knowledge of American electoral litigation law.

[LG17]

Now Trump is saying how secure the election process was in the same breath as saying it was rigged.
He is simply delusional.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by zipping

Is that right?

Thankyou for imparting on us your vast experience and knowledge of American electoral litigation law.

Is that wrong?

Can you impart on us your vast experience and Factual knowledge of American electoral litigation law to show otherwise
Thankyou

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by superyob

Looking even better for Trump today. But keep believing the MSM peoples. My cup will catch your tears...

Fill your cup up (with your stuff) and enjoy the taste in a week or so

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by buggerlugs

Hilarious. What about........ "If Ivanka wasn't my daughter I'd probably date her".............

To stay on topic, Ivanka is Trump's Deputy Campaign Manager. Or was.




In a Rolling Stone Magazine interview, September 2015, he talks about running for President, among other subjects. Third last paragraph is, interesting.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ugh-guy-41447/

[superyob]

Wow... ^^^

Democrats have been soiling their pants and screeching their criminal insanity to any who cares to listen for the last four years, but Trump said stupid stuff. As reported by the MSM, so it must be true...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOYFM11oQEI&t=63s

[cs123]

Originally Posted by superyob

Cup, tears. You know the rest...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E4F0cDN-rQ

[zipping]

Originally Posted by wodahs

Is that wrong?

Can you impart on us your vast experience and Factual knowledge of American electoral litigation law to show otherwise
Thankyou

Well i wasn't the one claiming a few more wins and this is over.

But since you asked for my opinion and I stress this is just my opinion, the Trump team strategy isn't to win in lower State courts but to outline an argument that can be taken to the Federal jurisdiction and ultimately be decided in the Supreme Court.

As I understand (could be wrong) it the crux of the Trump team argument where they lost in Michigan case is: In every instance where poll-watchers were not allowed to observe the process, those votes must be recounted. They must be recounted with poll-watchers from both sides present. If there are votes that cannot be recounted because the envelops were discarded, those votes must be discarded.

Solid argument imo. Losing in MI doesn't preclude the argument going forward in higher courts. The trump team will assess the result and move forward with the argument or decide if there is no chance of winning.

The second issue where I believe where the Trump legal team may and even more likely to succeed and have a victory in the SC is to do with rules imposed during the election that were not expressly made by a State legislature.

Here we can look at PA where we find The Supreme Court ruled, sort of, in this case already. They said, with 4 Justices led by Justice Alito that ONLY the Pennsylvania legislature can make or modify voting rules.

Why is this important?
The Pennsylvania legislature did not allow such voting changes, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court did. The U.S. Supreme Court could very easily rule that was judicial overreach.

This week, Justice Alito again said all votes coming in after 8:00 PM on election night need to be segregated. That is what is called a Federal Court Order. It is significant in that it indicates that the issue likely will be decided in the SC.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by zipping

Well i wasn't the one claiming a few more wins and this is over.

But since you asked for my opinion and I stress this is just my opinion, the Trump team strategy isn't to win in lower State courts but to outline an argument that can be taken to the Federal jurisdiction and ultimately be decided in the Supreme Court.

As I understand (could be wrong) it the crux of the Trump team argument where they lost in Michigan case is: In every instance where poll-watchers were not allowed to observe the process, those votes must be recounted. They must be recounted with poll-watchers from both sides present. If there are votes that cannot be recounted because the envelops were discarded, those votes must be discarded.

Solid argument imo. Losing in MI doesn't preclude the argument going forward in higher courts. The trump team will assess the result and move forward with the argument or decide if there is no chance of winning.

The second issue where I believe where the Trump legal team may and even more likely to succeed and have a victory in the SC is to do with rules imposed during the election that were not expressly made by a State legislature.

Here we can look at PA where we find The Supreme Court ruled, sort of, in this case already. They said, with 4 Justices led by Justice Alito that ONLY the Pennsylvania legislature can make or modify voting rules.

Why is this important?
The Pennsylvania legislature did not allow such voting changes, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court did. The U.S. Supreme Court could very easily rule that was judicial overreach.

This week, Justice Alito again said all votes coming in after 8:00 PM on election night need to be segregated. That is what is called a Federal Court Order. It is significant in that it indicates that the issue likely will be decided in the SC.

so as i read your humbled opinion
it reads one way or another

Just a couple more court decisions required

even it indicates that the issue likely will be decided in the SC , no ?

[CoupeKing]

Good thing Team Trump have appointed 300 Federal Judges and 3 Supreme Court Justices in his first term - the last one 2 weeks before the election.....

[zipping]

Originally Posted by wodahs

so as i read your humbled opinion
it reads one way or another

even it indicates that the issue likely will be decided in the SC , no ?

I only outlined 2 issues and I'm not following the issues closely at all. There are more.

More issues results in more cases, so no I don't agree that a few more wins and this is over.

[buggerlugs]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Good thing Team Trump have appointed 300 Federal Judges and 3 Supreme Court Justices in his first term - the last one 2 weeks before the election.....

That should help. Like all his lawsuits. Oh wait.................

[mick taylor]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

hey mate, in quoting Hitler you would do well to read about what Hitler did in the 1920's then make a comparison with what your best mate Trump is doing and saying. There is more similarities between Trump and Hitler (in the 1920's) than you care to think about. Trump is almost parroting Hitlers words

You should Google search Hitler and Socialist, you might be more than a little shocked at what you will find

I am may even be a professor on the subject of Nazi Germany bro. but the only real similarities that truly exist is the intention of wanting to turn around a nation that is a sinking ship. Trump is nothing like a Socialist bro.

The USA was on a path of destruction by two if the biggest morons who ever ran the USA Obama and baby Bush, they both ran it into the ground.
Not to mention Biden will not serve more than 6 months to a year and hand it over to Vampire comrade Harris to put the final nail in to the USA and that will be the end of Australia as we know it, Communist China will dominate us totally.
Anyone who looks up to Socialism is a dog ignorant fool or a low life grub, it truly is a cancer bro, it destroys people body and soul. their is not a man among them. they are all garden variety ignorant d-ck weeds.

The Satanic Communist Media slander Trump 24/7 twisting anything that he says, they are totally guilty of such and it's the media who are playing the Nazi tactics full on.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by mick taylor

I am may even be a professor on the subject of Nazi Germany bro. but the only real similarities that truly exist is the intention of wanting to turn around a nation that is a sinking ship. Trump is nothing like a Socialist bro.

The USA was on a path of destruction by two if the biggest morons who ever ran the USA Obama and baby Bush, they both ran it into the ground.
Not to mention Biden will not serve more than 6 months to a year and hand it over to Vampire comrade Harris to put the final nail in to the USA and that will be the end of Australia as we know it, Communist China will dominate us totally.
Anyone who looks up to Socialism is a dog ignorant fool or a low life grub, it truly is a cancer bro, it destroys people body and soul. their is not a man among them. they are all garden variety ignorant d-ck weeds.

The Satanic Communist Media slander Trump 24/7 twisting anything that he says, they are totally guilty of such and it's the media who are playing the Nazi tactics full on.

been drinking much ? maybe when you sobber up or back on your meds or what ever it is , may be you would want to re ready what you typed
because after reading that gibberish , you am may even be a professor NOT of anything

[buggerlugs]

Originally Posted by mick taylor

I am may even be a professor on the subject of Nazi Germany bro. but the only real similarities that truly exist is the intention of wanting to turn around a nation that is a sinking ship. Trump is nothing like a Socialist bro.

The USA was on a path of destruction by two if the biggest morons who ever ran the USA Obama and baby Bush, they both ran it into the ground.
Not to mention Biden will not serve more than 6 months to a year and hand it over to Vampire comrade Harris to put the final nail in to the USA and that will be the end of Australia as we know it, Communist China will dominate us totally.
Anyone who looks up to Socialism is a dog ignorant fool or a low life grub, it truly is a cancer bro, it destroys people body and soul. their is not a man among them. they are all garden variety ignorant d-ck weeds.

The Satanic Communist Media slander Trump 24/7 twisting anything that he says, they are totally guilty of such and it's the media who are playing the Nazi tactics full on.

Cool story bro......

[paule11]

This explains how Trump could stay on seen so many people explaining what is happening but this makes the most sense .If trump does not give a concession speech sit back and watch the burning looting and murdering .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZWR...NjpQ0nnnWzAJ4M

[zipping]

Originally Posted by mick taylor

the only real similarities that truly exist is the intention of wanting to turn around a nation that is a sinking ship.

I get the point you are making but this line is wrong.

Hitler was only interested in power and his own grandiose plans for world domination. It was dressed as nationalism, saving Germany etc etc.

But a more interesting point is that the elites of late 1920s early 1930s supported Nazism.

Elites being defined as a small group of powerful people who hold a disproportionate amount of wealth, privilege, political power, or skill in a society.

Who do the elites in the US support? Overwhelmingly it is the Democrats in the US, MSM, Academics, Military leaders, Judges, Industry, Silicon valley.

More than anything Trump is a result of the over reach of the elites, who exist also in the GOP.

[T3rminator]

Good afternoon. Any truth in Trump being able to persuade electors to give him the electoral votes despite what the people voted for? Apparently its the electors that formally give their votes?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/12/u...mp-future.html

"He then proceeded to press them on whether Republican legislatures could pick pro-Trump electors in a handful of key states and deliver him the electoral votes he needs to change the math and give him a second term, according to people briefed on the discussion.

It was not a detailed conversation, or really a serious one, the people briefed on it said."

The fact that it was asked is interesting.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by wodahs

been drinking much ? maybe when you sobber up or back on your meds or what ever it is , may be you would want to re ready what you typed
because after reading that gibberish , you am may even be a professor NOT of anything

Me fail English? That's unpossible...

[tweeked]

Originally Posted by zipping

Is that right?

Thankyou for imparting on us your vast experience and knowledge of American electoral litigation law.

Where in that do you think my humble opinion has anything to do with the law?

It was an opinion that politicians will dive for cover and start looking to the future as soon as they see that these challenges are not working. They will disassociate themselves with his rhetoric or choose to go down with his ship.

Unless I missed a bunch of cases being upheld?

Or are you saying that politicians are an honourable, selfless, loyal bunch that will die politically for the cause, and not set themselves up for 4 years time?

[zipping]

Originally Posted by tweeked

Where in that do you think my humble opinion has anything to do with the law?

It was an opinion that politicians will dive for cover and start looking to the future as soon as they see that these challenges are not working. They will disassociate themselves with his rhetoric or choose to go down with his ship.

Unless I missed a bunch of cases being upheld?

Or are you saying that politicians are an honourable, selfless, loyal bunch that will die politically for the cause, and not set themselves up for 4 years time?

I'm saying you are reading the strategy wrong, if you read my subsequent posts that would be clear.

I note you omit the one win the Trump team did have.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by superyob

Me fail English? That's unpossible...

we all knew that early in your posts , but its understandable for a troll dont feel bad about it
how ever it is so sad you cant understand what mick posted either
well what you cant understand was a complete cut n past from his post

[zipping]

Hey Tweaked I have a Question for you and anyone else that thinks this is nearly all over or a couple of court cases away.

If a significant proportion of 72 million voters even if its only 20% believe that fraud was involved in the 2020 election.......Do you think in 2024 those voters are more or less likely to turn out to vote GOP?

Your argument about trumps political supporters deserting him is really just Rino's deserting him who never supported him in the first place.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by zipping

Hey Tweaked I have a Question for you and anyone else that thinks this is nearly all over or a couple of court cases away.

If a significant proportion of 72 million voters even if its only 20% believe that fraud was involved in the 2020 election.......Do you think in 2024 those voters are more or less likely to turn out to vote GOP?

Your argument about trumps political supporters deserting him is really just Rino's deserting him who never supported him in the first place.

The question is more "Why do a significant portion of the GOP voters believe there was electoral fraud"

And the answer is "Because trump wants them to believe it"

He is undermining democracy for his ego