Malaysian Airways Flight 370

[Brendo_GSUte]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

If that is true, why does it take 5hrs and 35 minutes to fly KL to Beijing?

2700miles in 5.5 hrs is only 490m/hr.

They may be able to cruise at Mach .84, but that is only 600m/hr and would burn considerably more fuel decreasing the range.

Oops, just realised you wrote 400km/hr, im talking 400 miles an hour. so im right on the money, give or take.

Not to mention you just averaged it, They circle the runway to pick up the VOR transmissions as well as getting up to top speed isnt done instantly. A minor head wind can add up to 30 mins on a 3 hr flight.

[Peter B - CV8]

Originally Posted by Brendo_GSUte

Yeh so true, theres so many plot holes and things that dont fit in with the sequence of events.

I still think thier being held hostage. If i remember one of the relatives called a mobile phone and it rang, this hasnt been publicly followed up on. Also in early reports the satellites said the plane was consiously avoiding known radar areas.

As for the passed out theory oxygen masks drop from the panels above automatically. i dont know how long they last for though, maybe someone experienced can weigh in with an accurate time of a fully loaded plane?

Also why no mayday from the pilots? Wouldnt you send a mayday before trying to fault find the cause before pulling you communication circuits?

The drop down oxygen masks have a supply time of approx 12 minutes. That might seem awfully short - but it's sufficient time for the pilot/s to drop the plane down to lower (oxygen rich) altitude.

[MAD]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Possible, yes, but the first reports of supposed wreckage sightings in the area was from satellite imagery soon after the disappearance, not 3 weeks later.
They have been looking there for over a week now and still not 1 confirmed piece of debris.

Weren't the early sat images near China?

[XBROO]

When this story becomes a book, it'll be in the fiction section.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by MAD

Weren't the early sat images near China?

By the Chinese near Vietnam I thought.

Then the first reports of possible sightings in the Indian Ocean came a few days later.

To be honest, there have been so many conflicting stories im not sure what I remember reading, who wrote it, who made the claims and where they claimed it was.

If the intention was to create enough confusion to hide the truth, then those Malaysians are smarter than we think.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Brendo_GSUte

Not to mention you just averaged it, They circle the runway to pick up the VOR transmissions as well as getting up to top speed isnt done instantly. A minor head wind can add up to 30 mins on a 3 hr flight.

True, mind you I didn't factor in the altitude fluctuations it reportedly made either which would have an effect on fuel load too.

Until human remains are found I believe the jury is out.

[MAD]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

By the Chinese near Vietnam I thought.

Then the first reports of possible sightings in the Indian Ocean came a few days later.

To be honest, there have been so many conflicting stories im not sure what I remember reading, who wrote it, who made the claims and where they claimed it was.

If the intention was to create enough confusion to hide the truth, then those Malaysians are smarter than we think.

You might be right on that.
I don't remember hearing any claims regarding the Indian ocean early on, but I may have missed them.

There is so much guessing going on with this, the media is having a field day coming up with fake headlines.

I can't believe we've already had two TV specials on the matter when there are still basically no facts other than the plane took off and it didn't go where it was supposed to.

[CoupeKing]

Down low they wont travel as fast and burn heaps more fuel because the air is thicker.

[xxx000]

everybody relates what they saw or heard to this regardless of their location in the world, hence the oil rig worker and the people in the maldives who all think they saw it

I think it's crashed, not been hidden , and that all people on board are lost, possibly due to loss of cabin pressure like the Air Helios flight

anyone who thinks otherwise please can you give your full theory rather than just 'this is suss'

[EgoFG]

I am standing by my original Story
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showpos...2&postcount=46

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Oops, just realised you wrote 400km/hr, im talking 400 miles an hour. so im right on the money, give or take.

I thought you forgot the k in the speed Got it now

[lucas2]

Originally Posted by xxx000

anyone who thinks otherwise please can you give your full theory rather than just 'this is suss'

Lack of evidence leads me to not believe any theories.

[XBROO]

Channel 7 news just said the plane did fly over maldives and then turned and went out to the indian ocean. So then someone must of been in control.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by xxx000

everybody relates what they saw or heard to this regardless of their location in the world, hence the oil rig worker and the people in the maldives who all think they saw it

I think it's crashed, not been hidden , and that all people on board are lost, possibly due to loss of cabin pressure like the Air Helios flight

anyone who thinks otherwise please can you give your full theory rather than just 'this is suss'

Your probably right to be honest, everyone wants their 2 bobs worth.
That's one of the reasons I started the thread, a bit of speculative discussion.

Lets face it, none of us have any idea what happened, well maybe LTD due to his occupation and insight, but heck, even the people who should know appear clueless.

Personally, I believe it may have been an attempted hijacking due to the passenger discrepancies.
The question for me is, did it get ditched, shot down or was it diverted to another location to conceal the situation.

I've read a number of alternative (read 'conspiracy') theories and to be honest, some aspects are quite plausible when viewed from an open mind, or perhaps that's overactive imagination.

There's nothing wrong with questioning the 'official line', in fact, considering the way this has been handled by so called professionals, it would be naïve not to.
I just thank God that Australia is leading the way if it is infact deep in the Indian ocean.
If its there, we will find it.

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by XBROO

Channel 7 news just said the plane did fly over maldives and then turned and went out to the indian ocean. So then someone must of been in control.

If that was the case, why stop at killing only 239 people on the plane. Why not turn the plane towards singapore and fly into one of the oil refineries. Why not fly into the petronas towers or go onto beijing and fly into one of their towers.

[XBROO]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

If that was the case, why stop at killing only 239 people on the plane. Why not turn the plane towards singapore and fly into one of the oil refineries. Why not fly into the petronas towers or go onto beijing and fly into one of their towers.

Don't ask me just ask channel 7, that's what they just reported. I'm as confused as the next person. Nothing is making sense and when you think they are sticking to a story, they put another spin on it. This is truly a great mystery, I don't think even Steven Spielberg could come up with a better plot.

[Madaya]

Due to lack of data, I've avoided this thread. Without bias, I will agree with the following...
Using a certain and as yet unknown (Top Secret) algorithm, British scientists located the last known position of the jet (via signals transmitted from the jet=period), in the southern Indian Ocean.
Bad weather is delaying recovery. Just one piece of 370 will finalise the matter, though I expect, some sceptics who could align themselves with the Lunar Landing sceptics, will say the evidence was planted. Even when we eventually pull the wreckage from the bottom of the sea, there will be folk, willing to make a dollar on the revelation of the truth. i.e. The hidden, dark rulers of this Earth, somehow acquired a 777, painted on markings, reprogrammed the computers to mimic 370, packed luggage in holds resplendent of the true passengers of 370 (including false passport dudes and several folk who didn't board the plane).
Yeah, gotta love conspiracy.

[nstg8a]

Instead of using warships and merchant ships to do the searching they should commandeer a few top end fishing boats, the factory boat I worked on could work in almost any weather, and drag a net for as long as it took.
There's some skilled fishing captains out there who could find the proverbial needle in a haystack blind folded...

[ENFORCER 77]

Not sure if this article has been quoted here but makes you wonder.

Today we are told that the fate of Flight 370 is known, not yet identified debris has been spotted in what is called “the Southern Indian Ocean,” perhaps more appropriately described as “north of Antarctica.”

We also know that the 777/200 is a “fly by wire” aircraft with controls in place that allow the CIA to remotely pilot the plan “in case of emergency.” We were able to verify the design and implementation of this system through Boeing, Raytheon and commercial pilots.

“BAD NEWS”

The descriptions today in the New York Times and other publications are purposefully inaccurate and contradictory. Their explanations of how commercial aircraft communicate and are tracked are fanciful at best, at worst “criminal.”

CIA CONTROLS COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT

When Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 was reported as having crashed in the South China Sea, a massive cover up began yet no one will speak of it, nothing is written of it and its broad consequences are a subject of no investigation.

While people around the world were told the plane was “lost” or “crashed,” it was being monitored by NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) and its regional defense partners through secret systems installed in the plane.

In 2006, Boeing announced the following, from a John Croft article in Flight Global:

Boeing last week received a US patent for a system that, once activated, removes all controls from pilots to automatically return a commercial airliner to a predetermined landing location.

The "uninterruptible" autopilot would be activated - either by pilots, by onboard sensors or even remotely via radio or satellite links by government agencies like the Central Intelligence Agency, if terrorists attempt to gain control of a flight deck.

Boeing says: "We are constantly studying ways we can enhance the safety, security and efficiency of the world's airline fleet."

Similarly, Raytheon Corporation was awarded a contract by the Federal Aviation Administration 8 years ago to implement an “Advanced Route Evaluation System” (ARES) to work in concert with the system operated by the Central Intelligence Agency.

In addition, the technical staff at Rolls Royce, a fact also reported in the Wall Street Journal, continually monitored the plane’s flight.

Hundreds of people knew exactly where the plane was, how every system was working, what had been “turned off” not only when but where and exactly where the plane is now. Every word told the press, has been a lie.
Every word told by the mainstream media has been a lie.

THE “FLYING DUTCHMAN” AIRLINER

Now everyone knows that the plane continued flying for hours. This is where the cover up becomes problematic; you see everything about the plane was known, position, conditions of the engines, oxygen levels in the cockpit and passenger compartment, this and much more.

Even if the plane couldn’t be remotely piloted, its systems under “uninterruptable” control, a term coined by Boeing itself, the 777/200’s supposed “Flying Dutchman” journey to the South Pole is more than implausible.

The CIA along with Joint military commands set up during the Global War on Terror, tracked Flight 370, monitoring it continually, monitoring the murder of its passengers, monitoring its landing, monitoring its refueling and know exactly where it is.

If the plane really went down “off Antarctica,” they then monitored and “allowed” that.

ROLLS ROYCE SILENCE

In Britain, technicians for Rolls Royce monitored the plane as well, reporting its position to the British government every minute it was in the air. Those technicians have been silent, the British government has never been asked, and no one has been asked.

As the largest “Where’s Waldo” hunt in history goes on, now pulling in data from weather satellites and fleets of anti-submarine warfare planes unleashed upon the Indian Ocean, the entire thing is an “act,” a would-be comical farce.

Flight 370 is a Boeing 777/200, one of the most automated planes in the world. We will be outlining some of the specifics that make this theft or hijacking or alien abduction or whatever the mainstream media chooses to call it not just improbable but government sponsored terrorism.

9/11 ALL OVER AGAIN

This isn’t the first time something like this has happened. When four airliners “disappeared” on 9/11 much of what we are seeing today occurred then, but with far less technology being denied and suppressed.

According to Dr’s James Fetzer and Dean Hartwell, planes involved in 9/11 were still flying elsewhere after being listed as having crashed or never took off in the first place. These reports, though backed by verifiable data, were considered wild and suppositional by most but, in light of the Flight 370 debacle, deserve to be reconsidered.

Yes, planes can fly for hours after having crashed and, “yes,” authorities will lie about, not just the location of planes but show a frightening indifference when it comes to the now obviously pre-planned “disappearance” of passengers.

TRACKING 370

There are a number of devices on commercial aircraft embedded in such a way as to prevent disabling while in flight. You will never hear about where they are, what frequencies they broadcast on or how they work.
They are there. There are highly classified and they were on Flight 370, being continually monitored by military and security forces tasked specifically with preventing commercial aircraft from being used as weapons.

We all remember the testimony at the 9/11 Commission hearings. Condoleezza Rice, General Myers, Rumsfeld and Cheney, none of them had ever heard of the possibility of planes used as weapons no matter how many memos they had sent or received contradicting their testimony.

Similarly, days, even weeks later, one of the great “disappearing tricks” of all time, and the American military not only monitored every mile travelled but knew exactly when and where the passengers were killed. Part of the admitted “redirection” of Flight 370 included 45 minutes at 45,000 feet.

There is a procedure taking exactly that long at that altitude for depressurizing the cabin, using up existing oxygen supplies and killing passengers.

We received this from a Boeing 777 pilot with a major airline. From an article in New Eastern Outlook (Russia):


“Just a quick update with what I know about the Malaysia 777 disappearance. The Boeing 777 is the airplane that I fly. It is a great, safe airplane to fly. It has, for the most part, triple redundancy in most of its systems, so if one complete system breaks (not just parts of a system), there are usually 2 more to carry the load. It’s also designed to be easy to employ so 3rd world pilots can successfully fly it. Sometimes, even that doesn’t work…

There’s many ways to fly the 777 and there are safety layers and redundancies built into the airplane now to Malaysia. There are so many communication systems on the airplane: 3 VHF radios, 2 SatCom systems, 2 HF radio systems, plus Transponders and active, ‘real time’ monitoring through CPDLC (Controller to Pilot Data Link Clearance) and ADS B(Air Data Service) through the SatCom systems and ACARS (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System) thru the VHF, HF and SatCom systems. The air traffic controllers can tell where we are, speed, altitude, etc. as well as what our computers and flight guidance system has set into our control panels. Big Brother for sure! However, most of these things can be turned off.

But, there are a few systems that can’t be turned off and one is the engine monitoring systems. The Malaysia airplane, like our 777-200’s, uses Rolls Royce Trent Engines (as a piece of trivia….Rolls Royce names their motors after rivers….because they always keep on running!) Rolls Royce leases these motors to us and they monitor them all the time they are running. In fact, a few years back, one of our 777’s developed a slow oil leak due and partial equipment failure. It wasn’t bad enough to set off the airplane’s alerting system, but RR was looking at it on their computers. They are in England, they contact our dispatch in (REDACTED), Dispatch sends a message to the crew via SatCom in the North Pacific, telling them that RR wants them to closely monitor oil pressure and temp on the left engine.

The crew did all of that and landed uneventfully, but after landing and during the taxi in, the left engine shut itself down using it’s redundant, computerized operating system that has a logic tree that will not allow it to be shut down if the airplane is in the air…only on the ground. Pretty good tech. Anyway, the point was that RR monitors those engines 100% of the time they are operating. And don’t EVER get in an Airbus!!”


CONSPIRACY

What do we know for sure? We know the plane was tracked continually. We know classified systems were on board that could reroute and land the plane no matter what any hijacker could have done.

We know the passengers could be killed easily using control systems that should not be available to crew or hijackers but, for some reason, are a major “hole” in the security of an aircraft that has multiple redundancy systems for other “mishaps.”

We know the media has never addressed simple technical issues that a simple “fact check” on Google could have rectified. Did they lie on purpose?

Did someone tell them to lie?

Sources claim the plane landed on Diego Garcia, was refueled, dead passengers “disembarked” and was moved elsewhere?
Is this a better explanation than flying to the South Pole hidden from the world through multiple simultaneous failures of safety, communications, counter-hijacking and autopilot systems?

[Pepscobra]

I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, but seriously... What is there to cover up?
What sick mind would allow all of this pain and exhausting of resources to take place looking for something that didn't happen??
At a time like this, it needs to be remembered that the most obvious explanation is usually the right one.

[ENFORCER 77]

Jacob Rothchild is now the sole patent owner of a new KL-03 microchip technology. The other 4 people were on that plane.

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by Pepscobra

At a time like this, it needs to be remembered that the most obvious explanation is usually the right one.

But what is the most Obvious explanation?

That one of the safest passenger aircraft ever to fly randomly had a catastrophic comms failure, but still managed to supposedly weave around radar coverage, then fly aimlessly into the Indian Ocean?

Seems legit.

The Russians said over a week ago that the Americans took it to Diego Garcia.

Who do you believe?

The Russians? Generally do what they want when they want, and stuff what anyone else thinks...

The Americans? Invade random countries because of wmd's and terrorists they helped train? Get around their own bill or rights by building a prison in another country so they can torture and imprison people indefinitely without charge?

The Malaysians? Who are coming across as competent as an aca reporter?

Tony Abbott? Who, on face value, couldn't lie straight in bed?

Tangled tangled web.


Look at this way, how easy is it to hide a 777?

Really easy im guessing, land it on a military airfield, paint in some other markings, fly it out again.

Who can tell one 777 from another if you can't go off their markings?

[XBROO]

Originally Posted by ENFORCER 77

Not sure if this article has been quoted here but makes you wonder.

Today we are told that the fate of Flight 370 is known, not yet identified debris has been spotted in what is called “the Southern Indian Ocean,” perhaps more appropriately described as “north of Antarctica.”

We also know that the 777/200 is a “fly by wire” aircraft with controls in place that allow the CIA to remotely pilot the plan “in case of emergency.” We were able to verify the design and implementation of this system through Boeing, Raytheon and commercial pilots.

“BAD NEWS”

The descriptions today in the New York Times and other publications are purposefully inaccurate and contradictory. Their explanations of how commercial aircraft communicate and are tracked are fanciful at best, at worst “criminal.”

CIA CONTROLS COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT

When Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 was reported as having crashed in the South China Sea, a massive cover up began yet no one will speak of it, nothing is written of it and its broad consequences are a subject of no investigation.

While people around the world were told the plane was “lost” or “crashed,” it was being monitored by NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) and its regional defense partners through secret systems installed in the plane.

In 2006, Boeing announced the following, from a John Croft article in Flight Global:

Boeing last week received a US patent for a system that, once activated, removes all controls from pilots to automatically return a commercial airliner to a predetermined landing location.

The "uninterruptible" autopilot would be activated - either by pilots, by onboard sensors or even remotely via radio or satellite links by government agencies like the Central Intelligence Agency, if terrorists attempt to gain control of a flight deck.

Boeing says: "We are constantly studying ways we can enhance the safety, security and efficiency of the world's airline fleet."

Similarly, Raytheon Corporation was awarded a contract by the Federal Aviation Administration 8 years ago to implement an “Advanced Route Evaluation System” (ARES) to work in concert with the system operated by the Central Intelligence Agency.

In addition, the technical staff at Rolls Royce, a fact also reported in the Wall Street Journal, continually monitored the plane’s flight.

Hundreds of people knew exactly where the plane was, how every system was working, what had been “turned off” not only when but where and exactly where the plane is now. Every word told the press, has been a lie.
Every word told by the mainstream media has been a lie.

THE “FLYING DUTCHMAN” AIRLINER

Now everyone knows that the plane continued flying for hours. This is where the cover up becomes problematic; you see everything about the plane was known, position, conditions of the engines, oxygen levels in the cockpit and passenger compartment, this and much more.

Even if the plane couldn’t be remotely piloted, its systems under “uninterruptable” control, a term coined by Boeing itself, the 777/200’s supposed “Flying Dutchman” journey to the South Pole is more than implausible.

The CIA along with Joint military commands set up during the Global War on Terror, tracked Flight 370, monitoring it continually, monitoring the murder of its passengers, monitoring its landing, monitoring its refueling and know exactly where it is.

If the plane really went down “off Antarctica,” they then monitored and “allowed” that.

ROLLS ROYCE SILENCE

In Britain, technicians for Rolls Royce monitored the plane as well, reporting its position to the British government every minute it was in the air. Those technicians have been silent, the British government has never been asked, and no one has been asked.

As the largest “Where’s Waldo” hunt in history goes on, now pulling in data from weather satellites and fleets of anti-submarine warfare planes unleashed upon the Indian Ocean, the entire thing is an “act,” a would-be comical farce.

Flight 370 is a Boeing 777/200, one of the most automated planes in the world. We will be outlining some of the specifics that make this theft or hijacking or alien abduction or whatever the mainstream media chooses to call it not just improbable but government sponsored terrorism.

9/11 ALL OVER AGAIN

This isn’t the first time something like this has happened. When four airliners “disappeared” on 9/11 much of what we are seeing today occurred then, but with far less technology being denied and suppressed.

According to Dr’s James Fetzer and Dean Hartwell, planes involved in 9/11 were still flying elsewhere after being listed as having crashed or never took off in the first place. These reports, though backed by verifiable data, were considered wild and suppositional by most but, in light of the Flight 370 debacle, deserve to be reconsidered.

Yes, planes can fly for hours after having crashed and, “yes,” authorities will lie about, not just the location of planes but show a frightening indifference when it comes to the now obviously pre-planned “disappearance” of passengers.

TRACKING 370

There are a number of devices on commercial aircraft embedded in such a way as to prevent disabling while in flight. You will never hear about where they are, what frequencies they broadcast on or how they work.
They are there. There are highly classified and they were on Flight 370, being continually monitored by military and security forces tasked specifically with preventing commercial aircraft from being used as weapons.

We all remember the testimony at the 9/11 Commission hearings. Condoleezza Rice, General Myers, Rumsfeld and Cheney, none of them had ever heard of the possibility of planes used as weapons no matter how many memos they had sent or received contradicting their testimony.

Similarly, days, even weeks later, one of the great “disappearing tricks” of all time, and the American military not only monitored every mile travelled but knew exactly when and where the passengers were killed. Part of the admitted “redirection” of Flight 370 included 45 minutes at 45,000 feet.

There is a procedure taking exactly that long at that altitude for depressurizing the cabin, using up existing oxygen supplies and killing passengers.

We received this from a Boeing 777 pilot with a major airline. From an article in New Eastern Outlook (Russia):


“Just a quick update with what I know about the Malaysia 777 disappearance. The Boeing 777 is the airplane that I fly. It is a great, safe airplane to fly. It has, for the most part, triple redundancy in most of its systems, so if one complete system breaks (not just parts of a system), there are usually 2 more to carry the load. It’s also designed to be easy to employ so 3rd world pilots can successfully fly it. Sometimes, even that doesn’t work…

There’s many ways to fly the 777 and there are safety layers and redundancies built into the airplane now to Malaysia. There are so many communication systems on the airplane: 3 VHF radios, 2 SatCom systems, 2 HF radio systems, plus Transponders and active, ‘real time’ monitoring through CPDLC (Controller to Pilot Data Link Clearance) and ADS B(Air Data Service) through the SatCom systems and ACARS (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System) thru the VHF, HF and SatCom systems. The air traffic controllers can tell where we are, speed, altitude, etc. as well as what our computers and flight guidance system has set into our control panels. Big Brother for sure! However, most of these things can be turned off.

But, there are a few systems that can’t be turned off and one is the engine monitoring systems. The Malaysia airplane, like our 777-200’s, uses Rolls Royce Trent Engines (as a piece of trivia….Rolls Royce names their motors after rivers….because they always keep on running!) Rolls Royce leases these motors to us and they monitor them all the time they are running. In fact, a few years back, one of our 777’s developed a slow oil leak due and partial equipment failure. It wasn’t bad enough to set off the airplane’s alerting system, but RR was looking at it on their computers. They are in England, they contact our dispatch in (REDACTED), Dispatch sends a message to the crew via SatCom in the North Pacific, telling them that RR wants them to closely monitor oil pressure and temp on the left engine.

The crew did all of that and landed uneventfully, but after landing and during the taxi in, the left engine shut itself down using it’s redundant, computerized operating system that has a logic tree that will not allow it to be shut down if the airplane is in the air…only on the ground. Pretty good tech. Anyway, the point was that RR monitors those engines 100% of the time they are operating. And don’t EVER get in an Airbus!!”


CONSPIRACY

What do we know for sure? We know the plane was tracked continually. We know classified systems were on board that could reroute and land the plane no matter what any hijacker could have done.

We know the passengers could be killed easily using control systems that should not be available to crew or hijackers but, for some reason, are a major “hole” in the security of an aircraft that has multiple redundancy systems for other “mishaps.”

We know the media has never addressed simple technical issues that a simple “fact check” on Google could have rectified. Did they lie on purpose?

Did someone tell them to lie?

Sources claim the plane landed on Diego Garcia, was refueled, dead passengers “disembarked” and was moved elsewhere?
Is this a better explanation than flying to the South Pole hidden from the world through multiple simultaneous failures of safety, communications, counter-hijacking and autopilot systems?

If this is true, that's some seriously ****** up ****.

[XWGT]

Yes that's right, the CIA has constant satellite uplinks to every flight in the sky. And the CIA pays the data bill on the airlines behalf?

Wow I'm not sure what some people have been smoking but its obviously A grade stuff...............

[CoupeKing]

Focus now is on an area 1000km north east of the current search grid.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26780897

Getting closer to 'Diamantina Deep' .....

[BENT_8]

Lol, looks like someone else might have realised it couldn't fly that far south.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by XWGT

Yes that's right, the CIA has constant satellite uplinks to every flight in the sky. And the CIA pays the data bill on the airlines behalf?

Wow I'm not sure what some people have been smoking but its obviously A grade stuff...............

But they wouldn't need constant monitoring, only the availability when someone sticks their head out...like a plane that suddenly drops off radar.

It makes perfect sense to be able to monitor and even control a commercial plane by wire post 9/11.
If this was available then, the 4th plane wouldn't have gone down in that field.

[ray38l]

people these days seem to think they have a right to know everything about anything.
if some small detail in the case hasn't been dismissed by searchers with proof then it is seen as a cover up. just because you haven't been told something doesn't make it a cover up. peoples le assume that the media know everything and if they say it's a cover up then it is.
The plane will be found eventually until then people should stop doing there own investigating back to front. you can't find out what happened on board until you find the plane.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by ray38l

people these days seem to think they have a right to know everything about anything.
if some small detail in the case hasn't been dismissed by searchers with proof then it is seen as a cover up. just because you haven't been told something doesn't make it a cover up. peoples le assume that the media know everything and if they say it's a cover up then it is.
The plane will be found eventually until then people should stop doing there own investigating back to front. you can't find out what happened on board until you find the plane.

Nah, its all good, you can just refrain from entering this thread, then it wont bother you.

Ok.

[OLD BALDY]

On the move AGAIN 1100K's closer to OZ!! Maybe they should look fot it at Katherine WW2 airstrips in the bush!!