Good value second hand cars - COVID times, Falcon/Commodore tax

[Franco Cozzo]

The glass BBQ brigade are doing fire sales, $7500 for LS powered bougie Commo

The Holden buy swap sell groups are the best comedy you'll experience nationally, this fine glass BBQ enthusiast specimen is currently in the care of Bacchus Marsh Towing for 30 days (mine was too at one stage).

It's about $1300 in fees to get it back, might be able to drop that off the price for anyone keen on a cheeky clapped out shitbox

[Citroënbender]

Is he selling the BMW as well?

[smoo]

[Sprintey]

Is that for real? wow.

OK stuff I watch continues to fall, seeing asks at dealers:
Jag F Pace saw a 31 ask
Jag XE now high teens asks, these had got below 30 just before covid and then they rocketed to a high 30s cheapest ask, now how they have fallen
RRS L494 petrols dealer seen a sub 40K ask, cheapest ask was 55-60s in covid
RR Velar has a private asking 47 - these held above 75K for so long after covid
VF Calais wagon 6's hovers around the 20K ask now, about 24 2 years ago.


In economics land, inflation came in this week at 3.6% rather than the 3.4% consensus - still down on last year, but remaining more sticky than they would like. Thus they think less pressure on RBA to lower rates sooner, which means the squeeze will continue.

[Franco Cozzo]

Also why am I seeing new Ranger on clearance ads being discounted

[smoo]

Back when ford dealerships were worth walking into where you could buy a basic sales rep car that’s faster than the current best seller.
These were a limited run in NZ but a sharp looker for the day, V6 and manual.
They’d have looked good next to an EL XR in the showroom.



Covid pricing on this one.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by smoo

Back when ford dealerships were worth walking into where you could buy a basic sales rep car that’s faster than the current best seller.
These were a limited run in NZ but a sharp looker for the day, V6 and manual.
They’d have looked good next to an EL XR in the showroom.

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Covid pricing on this one.

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I love the E31, especially the 850, but drug money

[Sprintey]

I'm noticing more of the post-classic Falc and Commy prices returning to reality.

[fordomatic]

Yep, market has completely tanked now. There are cars back to pre-COVID prices that aren't selling. Cars that would have sold within a week 5 years ago have been on the market for months. I have a lot of nice straight cars saved and they aren't moving.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

I'm noticing more of the post-classic Falc and Commy prices returning to reality.

Lot of LS powered Commodores going at decent prices now, Commodores are always the first cars to be liquidated in tough economic conditions as the glass BBQ enthusiasts need to raise funds to keep shard in their pipe.

[Sprintey]

It's a more expensive world compared to the cheap FM bottle bong world of the 1990s, where LC Torana 2 door shells were $300 and unwanted.

[Sprintey]

Just some good common garden variety wholesomeness I found

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/ring...dan/1322745148

beautiful, got the dual airbags on the classic too, low kms

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/boss...-au/1321935565

the legend, and a truly rare S version, at pocket money, how can you not love such a unique and desirable vehicle at that price. Interior is actually nice, they used those seats on the later AUII SR

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

Just some good common garden variety wholesomeness I found

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/ring...dan/1322745148

beautiful, got the dual airbags on the classic too, low kms

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/boss...-au/1321935565

the legend, and a truly rare S version, at pocket money, how can you not love such a unique and desirable vehicle at that price. Interior is actually nice, they used those seats on the later AUII SR

Both no bad buying. (not my cup of tea)

The regoed NSW one would be a good drive across the Murray and transfer rego to Vic without the necessary RWC.
While the other one is rather cheap considering it has 12mth rego and a RWC in the price.

Sometime buying regoed cars in Vic with no RWC included can be very pricey.

btw Registered Holden panel vans have certainly not come down in price yet. Sky high drug money as Franco states.

[Sprintey]

Good point about the rego/RWC making the EL cheap in Vic.

What do you reckon of XF-XG-XH panel van prices currently Rokwiz? Are the ones asking sub 10 worth the time?

Have noticed a couple of XB GS wagons, one coming down in their ask a bit from nosebleed pricing, much work probably.

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/coor...ont/1309313772

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/inve...gon/1324502141

And this XC GS wagon looks extremely well cared for throughout it's life, well done to the owner:

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/moun...-8l/1322766083

[Citroënbender]

All three with dual action tailgates! I’m impressed.

Passed up a rusty XB GS 302 wagon around ‘99 for $800, had just dropped too much coin on repairing an XM wagon for little visible progress and was not in the mood for punting further.

BTW Mr Sprintey, I threw a question towards you in the Thailux thread.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

Good point about the rego/RWC making the EL cheap in Vic.

What do you reckon of XF-XG-XH panel van prices currently Rokwiz? Are the ones asking sub 10 worth the time?

Have noticed a couple of XB GS wagons, one coming down in their ask a bit from nosebleed pricing, much work probably.

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/coor...ont/1309313772

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/inve...gon/1324502141

And this XC GS wagon looks extremely well cared for throughout it's life, well done to the owner:

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/moun...-8l/1322766083

Bottom one is in the best condition but I wouldn't be bothered going all the way to WA to buy it.

XF - H.
XG's are to difficult to buy parts for due to their limited run and goofiness.
To much electronics crap in the XH for me.
So that only leaves the XF vans I would look at just simply because of the parts availability.

As for price anything over $7 000 I consider overpriced IMO. I think they are a great car for work and play but not really worth much.
Most sell them with either dinged in tailgates or rusty roof gutters

It would have to be sometime like this for sale a couple of years ago for me to get excited. I think it was $10 000, immaculate and windowless.

[FTE217]

christ you guys reckon the market has dropped, all I see is over inflated pricing whenever I look pre of post covid.
Be it whatever Falc Holden or commode.
Sure you'll say they sit there, point is they will hardly budge in anycase.
I keep looking, all too much to me but I'm a tight **** and gold digger
I take 100k for my Sprint for eg lol.....

[Citroënbender]

I’m a little puzzled by the number of 1-2 year old G63 models with apparent delivery or demonstrator mileage on them - and high asking prices.

Are they not really selling that well, or are the speedos being flicked?

[Cav]

Then of course there is my Bambino - 56,000kms for $8,800

[Mulva]

Had mixed feelings when I heard Mike and Elvis were doing a few episodes of Wheeler Dealers on Aussie cars...excited by our local stuff getting show-cased and it being much more relatable for me; but also worried it would be poorly done in terms of what they get and/or what they do and/or what they pay etc.

Looking at this I'm assuming it is from a year ago or more, as even getting it down from $24k asking, paying $21k for this XR8 still seems steep to me.

I can never get these youtube tags to work - mod help?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6y5RtfDino

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Mulva

Had mixed feelings when I heard Mike and Elvis were doing a few episodes of Wheeler Dealers on Aussie cars...excited by our local stuff getting show-cased and it being much more relatable for me; but also worried it would be poorly done in terms of what they get and/or what they do and/or what they pay etc.

Looking at this I'm assuming it is from a year ago or more, as even getting it down from $24k asking, paying $21k for this XR8 still seems steep to me.

I can never get these youtube tags to work - mod help?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6y5RtfDino

They were in Australia earlier this year going by their social media posts.

[Sprintey]

Had a look at recent Gray's auction, the 2015RRSs got up to 27K and 34K bids then were passed in, but in the Aussie cars a VF Calais sedan 130km 2014 model went for just shy of 11 and the humble VF Evoke (about 180km) just over 7 after sitting in the 3's for most of the auction.

I noticed the cars that are in demand (Tojo hybrids) are hardly available for auction, and the 'cool' Euro ones get heaps of bids with a reserve maybe 10 under dealer asks for the kms. Unfashionable cars, such as sedans, well you might be able to score a bargain 1/2 the price of what a dealer would ask.

Carsales now has the diesel F-Pace Jags sub $20K asks, but you'd then have to live with that 2.0L diesel... 1st Petrol now sub $30.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

To get the video to work, just wrap the bold bit below in the YouTube tags

https://youtu.be/B6y5RtfDino?si=Ofj2T4dJgfCDH1DX

[Citroënbender]

That ‘roo in the picture reminds me of YT videos by Yorak H. Just needs to be musclier.

[Sprintey]

OK forums, what's the goss on the last Ford Focus? Any good? Seen a couple of nice wagons and it's a great looking little thing. Am I to expect the excellent Ford Europe handling? Is the Ecoboost 1.5 the same as the dreaded 'Ecoboom' that UK and US youtube channels are full of? Expect detonation?

[ToryMikey]

Originally Posted by smoo

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That's like twice what my house cost. And my house only looks like it's 50 years old from the outside.

[ToryMikey]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Bottom one is in the best condition but I wouldn't be bothered going all the way to WA to buy it.

XF - H.
XG's are to difficult to buy parts for due to their limited run and goofiness.
To much electronics crap in the XH for me.
So that only leaves the XF vans I would look at just simply because of the parts availability.

As for price anything over $7 000 I consider overpriced IMO. I think they are a great car for work and play but not really worth much.
Most sell them with either dinged in tailgates or rusty roof gutters

It would have to be sometime like this for sale a couple of years ago for me to get excited. I think it was $10 000, immaculate and windowless.

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One of those in three speed column manual is my absolute dream. What a looker.

Edit: Agree re XG goofiness. They were only made from March 1993 to April 1996, XH shares a lot more with EF/EL making life a little easier.

[smoo]

In NZ. I’ve always liked the VP Calais, especially in this colour.



Auto GT.

[Sprintey]

https://www.grays.com/lot/0019-50566...ipping-utility

[roKWiz]

One for the hard core FORD collector. Ever so slightly modified.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...tory_type=post



love the concept drawing.